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| History of the 4 and 16 Route Numbers; All of the former lines that were the 4 and 16 | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 16 2012, 10:24 PM (1,498 Views) | |
| Philly Transport | Feb 19 2012, 10:02 PM Post #11 |
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Any reason or point to why? |
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| Mark | Feb 19 2012, 11:11 PM Post #12 |
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There may have been a few Crocketts based at Southern for use on the old 90 bus [they used the Twin Coaches at first, then maybe the Crocketts, then the 1200's - Fishbowls, then Flxibles, and finally the 1300's AN435] before the 12 ate up the route in the last decade. That branch of the 17 you mentioned lasted until the Feds closed the Navy Yard and SEPTA gutted the Navy Yard schedule to its present form. The G extension started out as you described, but over time, ALL of the G trips were routed to the Food Center. Then when the 7 was diverted to Pier 70, half of the G trips went back to Delaware/Oregon. Now the G has a 2 & 1 split between the Food Center [2 per hour average], and Columbus Commons [1 per hour average, check schedule]. |
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| RedArrowDoug | Feb 19 2012, 11:39 PM Post #13 |
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The only number for the Route G is Route 49. Here is the logic. 49 is half way between 46 and 52. The Route G is half way between Routes 46 and 52. Also the history of the Route 49 number is based in West Philadelphia. The current West Philadelphia portion of Route 64 was once the Route 49 until 1983. The former Route 121 was once known as the Route 49 after its day as the Route 44G. Route R should be Route 41 which is the inverse of Route 14. The rest is up for grabs. |
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| philabob1 | Feb 20 2012, 12:29 PM Post #14 |
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I recall Crocketts on the 90 but I thought it was moved to Callowhill after the Twins were retired and then brought back to Southern when the 1200's showed up. ? The 17 Navy Yard lasted even after the Yard closure but then more recently split into the 71 weekdays and 17 weekends. The 17 Food Center did not hang around very long as I recall, maybe disappearing in the late 70's. |
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| septaman | Feb 21 2012, 01:43 PM Post #15 |
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Is the 4 supposed to be split with midvale and southern? |
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| Transit_Advocate929 | Mar 1 2012, 11:37 PM Post #16 |
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No. according to septafan, the 4 is all Southern and the 16 is all Midvale. No more splits.
Edited by Van2006ko, Mar 1 2012, 11:40 PM.
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| Septa_kid | Mar 2 2012, 06:35 AM Post #17 |
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What if...
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8539 block 3557 is currently on the 4. There goes that theory... |
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