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Route 77; Why this route is important and needs improvement
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 08:18 PM (733 Views)
Mark
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Wow, Now I see why the 77 is such a busy line, it's the only East-West crosstown service connecting the heart of NE Philly to Abington, Jenkintown, Glenside, and with a connection from the H and the 18, the way to get from E. Mt. Airy to the main part of NE Philly without going through the clusterf&*ks of Olney and Frankford Terminals, also it does a good job of picking up the 70's leftovers.

Instead of starting [if ever] the 72, any money that route will waste should go to improving the 77. Extend the service hours to 10:30 pm, shorten the headway to 30 minutes [beleive me that vacum will be filled very quickly], and extend it to the FTC [make Cedarbrook Mall a short-turn point if SEPTA doesn't want to make all of the buses go to Chestnut Hill.], that will make the 77 a really important Crosstown line.
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The 72 would be important too because it would save people who live on Cheltenham Avenue between 2nd and Broad Streets from catching 3 buses if they want to go to places such as Cheltenham, Cedarbrook, or Willow Grove Malls.
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Having utilized this route multiple times I can tell you that more service is not necessarily needed. Maybe a school tripper in both directions at most...McDevitt students really do fill it up quickly. Other than that, though, the bus usually runs empty until it gets to Cottman -- already serviced by the much more reliable 70.

Some thoughts, though---
-run certain 70 buses to the hospital complex on Township Line to make up for infrequency of the 77.
-extend the 77 express to FTC from Cottman & Blvd and watch the ridership go up - the biggest folly of the 70 is its outdated eastern terminus.
-keep all 77's terminating at Chestnut Hill. Even with an extension on the eastern portion of the route there is still a huge layover time in CH
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Look like the 77 detour will run longer than we thought. The Greenwood Bridge project hit a snag.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/07/31/montco-bridge-rehab-goes-on-hiatus-while-workers-wait-for-new-parts/
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TransitChuckG
Aug 1 2012, 03:20 PM
Look like the 77 detour will run longer than we thought. The Greenwood Bridge project hit a snag.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/07/31/montco-bridge-rehab-goes-on-hiatus-while-workers-wait-for-new-parts/
I don't think this will result in a major delay to the project. These kinds of things happen frequently on construction projects and time is usually built into the schedule to account for them.
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philabob1
Aug 2 2012, 07:29 AM
TransitChuckG
Aug 1 2012, 03:20 PM
Look like the 77 detour will run longer than we thought. The Greenwood Bridge project hit a snag.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/07/31/montco-bridge-rehab-goes-on-hiatus-while-workers-wait-for-new-parts/
I don't think this will result in a major delay to the project. These kinds of things happen frequently on construction projects and time is usually built into the schedule to account for them.
You points are well taken. Let's hope so.
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