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| Russ | Feb 10 2013, 11:44 AM Post #1 |
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Bark! Go away
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The latest TSPDT list: http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films.htm The By Ranking History and Ex-1000 categories are especially illuminating. |
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| Russ | Feb 10 2013, 12:01 PM Post #2 |
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Bark! Go away
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I see so many obvious omissions, but that's just me. Twelve Renoir's but only one Duvivier? I haven't counted how many of the current 1000 I've seen, but I'm guessing less than 25%. EDIT: ok , actually closer to 33%. |
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| vornporn | Feb 11 2013, 07:45 AM Post #3 |
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A Ryan Seacrest type.
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I've seen >90%, but then I use that as a watchlist. The new S&S Poll caused some big waves in this year's edition. Lots of big jumps for newer films. I wonder why The Man Who Fell To Earth fell to Earth so precipitously. |
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| Mister Jiggy, Esq. | Feb 11 2013, 07:57 AM Post #4 |
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Swingin' on the Flippity-Flop
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Tough poll for Frtiz Lang who saw 6 titles drop off (though the mind boggles at how Beyond a Reasonable Doubt and The Indian Tomb got on there in the first place) Edit: I also see Anthony Mann lost 4 titles as well, though they were on the bubble |
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| YancySkancy | Feb 11 2013, 10:41 AM Post #5 |
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If The Indian Tomb dropped off, we can only assume that fewer straight males had a vote this time around, if you know what I'm sayin'. I've barely glanced at the list thus far, but I see that Charley Varrick dropped off after appearing only one year (at #975). That sucks. But my beloved Ruggles hops on (yay!) at #893 (boo!). I'll count up my titles seen as soon as I get a chance. |
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| Russ | Feb 11 2013, 10:52 AM Post #6 |
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Bark! Go away
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I would be interested to know which films you (anyone) think do not belong on the list. Wait, here's an exercise: List the films you would remove along with a list of their replacements. |
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| Mister Jiggy, Esq. | Feb 11 2013, 02:09 PM Post #7 |
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Swingin' on the Flippity-Flop
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Surprised American Beauty reappeared. The addition of Nic Ray's Party Girl is an eye roller. Here are the 147 some odd ones I haven't seen - I think the average running time in many cases is a good indicator of why I haven't got around to it. Others there are availability issues. 61. (169) SHOAH (Claude Lanzmann / 1985 / France / 566m / Col) 90. (243) S�T�NTANG� (B�la Tarr / 1994 / Hungary, Germany, Switzerland / 450m / BW) 115. (675) HISTOIRE(S) DU CIN�MA (Jean-Luc Godard / 1998 / France / 265m / Col-BW) 133. (108) NAPOL�ON (Abel Gance / 1927 / France / 235m / BW) 146. (432) BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY, A (Edward Yang / 1991 / Taiwan / 237m / Col) 157. (181) TRAVELLING PLAYERS, THE (Theo Angelopoulos / 1975 / Greece / 230m / Col) 172. (143) EARTH (Alexander Dovzhenko / 1930 / USSR / 75m / BW) 176. (258) SAL�, OR THE 120 DAYS OF SODOM (Pier Paolo Pasolini / 1975 / Italy / 117m / Col) 201. (921) TOUKI BOUKI (Djibril Diop Mamb�ty / 1973 / Senegal / 85m / Col) 206. (336) WAVELENGTH (Michael Snow / 1967 / Canada / 45m / Col) 221. (352) CITY OF SADNESS, A (Hou Hsiao-hsien / 1989 / Taiwan, Hong Kong / 157m / Col) 264. (245) BERLIN ALEXANDERPLATZ (Rainer Werner Fassbinder / 1980 / West Germany, Italy / 894m / Col) 279. (773) OUT 1, NOLI ME TANGERE (Jacques Rivette / 1971 / France / 729m / Col-BW) 284. (294) BLACK GOD, WHITE DEVIL (Glauber Rocha / 1964 / Brazil / 110m / BW) 287. (396) LOVE STREAMS (John Cassavetes / 1984 / USA / 141m / Col) 302. (414) CHELSEA GIRLS (Andy Warhol / 1966 / USA / 210m / Col-BW) 307. (494) WHERE IS THE FRIEND'S HOME? (Abbas Kiarostami / 1987 / Iran / 85m / Col) 316. (595) THROUGH THE OLIVE TREES (Abbas Kiarostami / 1994 / Iran, France / 103m / Col) 323. (470) TOUCH OF ZEN, A (King Hu / 1969 / Taiwan / 200m / Col) 327. (344) VERDUGO, EL (Luis Garc�a Berlanga / 1963 / Spain, Italy / 90m / BW) 328. (361) OCTOBER (Sergei Eisenstein & Grigori Aleksandrov / 1927 / USSR / 103m / BW) 338. (415) PYAASA (Guru Dutt / 1957 / India / 146m / BW) 349. (729) PUPPETMASTER, THE (Hou Hsiao-hsien / 1993 / Taiwan / 141m / Col) 352. (467) NOSTALGHIA (Andrei Tarkovsky / 1983 / Italy / 120m / Col) 361. (796) LANDSCAPE IN THE MIST (Theo Angelopoulos / 1988 / Greece, Italy, France / 127m / Col) 370. (572) SHADOWS OF OUR FORGOTTEN ANCESTORS (Sergei Parajanov / 1964 / USSR / 95m / Col) 395. (682) WIND WILL CARRY US, THE (Abbas Kiarostami / 1999 / France, Iran / 118m / Col) 404. (new) TALE OF TALES (Yuriy Norshteyn / 1979 / USSR / 29m / Col) 406. (new) BLISSFULLY YOURS (Apichatpong Weerasethakul / 2002 / Thailand, France / 125m / Col) 416. (571) HOUR OF THE FURNACES, THE (Octavio Getino & Fernando E. Solanas / 1968 / Argentina / 260m / BW) 419. (486) MOMENT OF INNOCENCE, A (Mohsen Makhmalbaf / 1996 / Iran, France / 78m / Col) 425. (593) R�GION CENTRALE, LA (Michael Snow / 1971 / Canada / 180m / Col) 431. (278) TREE OF WOODEN CLOGS, THE (Ermanno Olmi / 1978 / Italy / 185m / Col) 436. (new) NOUVELLE VAGUE (Jean-Luc Godard / 1990 / France, Switzerland / 88m / Col) 439. (346) MAN OF ARAN (Robert Flaherty / 1934 / UK / 77m / BW) 446. (720) FLOWERS OF SHANGHAI (Hou Hsiao-hsien / 1998 / Taiwan / 130m / Col) 453. (331) TIME TO LIVE AND THE TIME TO DIE, THE (Hou Hsiao-hsien / 1985 / Taiwan / 137m / Col) 456. (651) SORROW AND THE PITY, THE (Marcel Oph�ls / 1969 / France, Switzerland, Germany / 260m / BW) 459. (586) XALA (Ousmane Sembene / 1974 / Senegal / 123m / Col) 472. (new) KOYAANISQATSI (Godfrey Reggio / 1983 / USA / 87m / Col) 477. (855) QUINCE TREE OF THE SUN (Victor Erice / 1992 / Spain / 139m / Col) 478. (452) INDIA SONG (Marguerite Duras / 1974 / France / 120m / Col) 484. (458) TERRA EM TRANSE (Glauber Rocha / 1967 / Brazil / 106m / BW) 486. (834) YEELEN (Souleymane Ciss� / 1987 / Mali / 105m / Col) 499. (324) STRIKE (Sergei Eisenstein / 1924 / USSR / 73m / BW) 504. (868) EDVARD MUNCH (Peter Watkins / 1974 / Sweden, Norway / 210m / Col) 515. (new) BY THE BLUEST OF SEAS (Boris Barnet / 1936 / USSR / 71m / BW) 529. (429) VAMPIRES, LES (Louis Feuillade / 1915 / France / 440m / BW) 533. (574) BARREN LIVES (Nelson Pereira dos Santos / 1963 / Brazil / 135m / BW) 538. (479) TIGER OF ESCHNAPUR, THE (Fritz Lang / 1958 / West Germany, France, Italy / 101m / Col) 540. (new) SICILIA! (Jean-Marie Straub & Dani�le Huillet / 1999 / Italy, France, Switzerland / 76m / BW) 550. (587) PASSION (Jean-Luc Godard / 1982 / France, Switzerland / 87m / Col) 562. (new) NUM�RO DEUX (Jean-Luc Godard / 1975 / France / 88m / Col) 577. (544) ANTONIO DAS MORTES (Glauber Rocha / 1969 / Brazil / 95m / Col) 585. (697) CHRONICLE OF ANNA MAGDALENA BACH, THE (Jean-Marie Straub / 1968 / West Germany, Italy / 94m / BW) 586. (893) FLAMING CREATURES (Jack Smith / 1963 / USA / 43m / BW) 593. (626) FAREWELL, MY CONCUBINE (Chen Kaige / 1993 / Hong Kong, China / 155m / Col) 599. (769) HATARI! (Howard Hawks / 1962 / USA / 159m / Col) 610. (new) IN VANDA'S ROOM (Pedro Costa / 2000 / Portugal, Germany, Switzerland, Italy / 170m / Col) 617. (817) YOL (Serif G�ren & Yilmaz G�ney / 1982 / Turkey, Switzerland, France / 111m / Col) 618. (new) MY FRIEND IVAN LAPSHIN (Aleksey German / 1986 / USSR / 99m / Col-BW) 619. (new) EMPIRE (Andy Warhol / 1964 / USA / 485m / BW) 621. (new) HOOP DREAMS (Steve James / 1994 / USA / 170m / Col) 622. (528) OLYMPIA (Leni Riefenstahl / 1938 / Germany / 220m / BW) 630. (676) BELLE NOISEUSE, LA (Jacques Rivette / 1991 / France / 240m / Col) 634. (658) HART OF LONDON, THE (Jack Chambers / 1970 / Canada / 80m / Col-BW) 635. (new) TURIN HORSE, THE (B�la Tarr / 2011 / Hungary, France, Germany, Switzerland, USA / 146m / BW) 638. (new) FROM THE CLOUDS TO THE RESISTANCE (Jean-Marie Straub & Dani�le Huillet / 1979 / Italy, West Germany, UK, France / 104m / Col) 645. (new) SON, THE (Jean-Pierre Dardenne & Luc Dardenne / 2002 / Belgium, France / 103m / Col) 646. (808) SUBARNAREKHA (Ritwik Ghatak / 1965 / India / 143m / BW) 648. (new) VIVE L'AMOUR (Tsai Ming-liang / 1994 / Taiwan / 118m / Col) 652. (new) LAST BOLSHEVIK, THE (Chris Marker / 1993 / France, Finland / 120m / Col) 660. (708) YELLOW EARTH (Chen Kaige / 1984 / China / 89m / Col) 662. (964) SPIONE (Fritz Lang / 1928 / Germany / 90m / BW) 666. (461) MY LIFE AS A DOG (Lasse Hallstr�m / 1985 / Sweden / 101m / Col) 680. (696) ANATAHAN (Josef von Sternberg / 1953 / Japan / 90m / BW) 691. (new) OUTER SPACE (Peter Tscherkassky / 1999 / Austria / 10m / BW) 692. (774) CEDDO (Ousmane Sembene / 1976 / Senegal / 117m / Col) 695. (new) HOLY MOUNTAIN, THE (Alejandro Jodorowsky / 1973 / Mexico, USA / 114m / Col) 697. (811) CHRONICLE OF A SUMMER (Jean Rouch & Edgar Morin / 1961 / France / 85m / BW) 698. (532) ON THE TOWN (Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly / 1949 / USA / 98m / Col) 705. (new) GUMMO (Harmony Korine / 1997 / USA / 88m / Col) 707. (953) TRUE HEART SUSIE (D.W. Griffith / 1919 / USA / 87m / BW) 709. (694) LUDWIG (Luchino Visconti / 1972 / Italy, France, West Germany / 235m / Col) 711. (new) EMPEROR'S NAKED ARMY MARCHES ON, THE (Kazuo Hara / 1987 / Japan / 123m / Col) 713. (new) SEASONS, THE (Artavazd Peleshian / 1975 / USSR / 29m / BW) 722. (new) DISTANT (Nuri Bilge Ceylan / 2002 / Turkey, Netherlands / 110m / Col) 727. (707) NOT RECONCILED (Jean-Marie Straub / 1965 / West Germany / 53m / BW) 729. (854) ABRAHAM'S VALLEY (Manoel de Oliveira / 1993 / Portugal, France, Switzerland / 189m / Col) 734. (new) COLOSSAL YOUTH (Pedro Costa / 2006 / Portugal, France, Switzerland / 155m / Col) 7736. (645) SAUVE QUI PEUT (LA VIE) (Jean-Luc Godard / 1980 / France, Switzerland / 87m / Col) 739. (614) HITLER: A FILM FROM GERMANY (Hans-J�rgen Syberberg / 1977 / West Germany, France, UK / 442m / Col) 741. (new) TALE OF THE WIND, A (Joris Ivens / 1988 / France / 80m / Col) 751. (719) KAAGAZ KE PHOOL (Guru Dutt / 1959 / India / 148m / BW) 753. (new) TIE XI QU: WEST OF THE TRACKS (Wang Bing / 2003 / China / 551m / Col) 761. (684) HEIMAT (Edgar Reitz / 1984 / West Germany / 940m / Col-BW) 764. (new) PRINCESS MONONOKE (Hayao Miyazaki / 1997 / Japan / 133m / Col) 765. (848) LONG DAY CLOSES, THE (Terence Davies / 1992 / UK / 83m / Col) 778. (new) NUIT DU CARREFOUR, LA (Jean Renoir / 1932 / France / 73m / BW) 779. (new) UNSERE AFRIKAREISE (Peter Kubelka / 1966 / Austria / 13m / Col) 789. (612) VAN GOGH (Maurice Pialat / 1991 / France / 155m / Col) 798. (new) ROUE, LA (Abel Gance / 1923 / France / 273m / BW) 799. (850) EL DORADO (Howard Hawks / 1966 / USA / 126m / Col) 800. (new) GRIN WITHOUT A CAT (Chris Marker / 1977 / France / 240m / Col-BW) 803. (775) GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES (Isao Takahata / 1988 / Japan / 93m / Col) 813. (new) D'EST (Chantal Akerman / 1993 / Belgium, France, Portugal / 107m / Col) 814. (new) DEATH OF MARIA MALIBRAN, THE (Werner Schroeter / 1972 / West Germany / 104m / Col) 818. (568) WAR AND PEACE (Sergei Bondarchuk / 1967 / USSR / 357m / Col) 822. (new) SILENT LIGHT (Carlos Reygadas / 2007 / Mexico, France, Netherlands / 136m / Col) 823. (new) HY�NES (Djibril Diop Mamb�ty / 1992 / Senegal / 110m / Col) 824. (596) CHANT D'AMOUR, UN (Jean Genet / 1950 / France / 26m / BW) 828. (new) MINAMATA: THE VICTIMS AND THEIR WORLD (Noriaki Tsuchimoto / 1971 / Japan / 105m / Col-BW) 835. (842) RED SORGHUM (Zhang Yimou / 1987 / China / 91m / Col) 842. (705) PAKEEZAH (Kamal Amrohi / 1972 / India / 150m / Col) 844. (650) STORM OVER ASIA (Vsevolod Pudovkin / 1928 / USSR / 93m / BW) 847. (862) PINK FLAMINGOS (John Waters / 1972 / USA / 92m / Col) 852. (new) ONLY SON, THE (Yasujiro Ozu / 1936 / Japan / 87m / BW) 863. (828) MOTHER INDIA (Mehboob Khan / 1957 / India / 172m / Col) 864. (785) O LUCKY MAN! (Lindsay Anderson / 1973 / UK / 173m / Col) 871. (new) ARNULF RAINER (Peter Kubelka / 1960 / Austria / 7m / BW) 878. (new) MOVIE, A (Bruce Conner / 1958 / USA / 12m / BW) 880. (new) AS I WAS MOVING AHEAD OCCASIONALLY I SAW BRIEF GLIMPSES OF BEAUTY (Jonas Mekas / 2000 / USA / 288m / Col) 887. (new) DOOMED LOVE (Manoel de Oliveira / 1978 / Portugal / 260m / Col) 889. (701) H�TEL TERMINUS (Marcel Oph�ls / 1987 / USA / 267m / Col) 891. (new) ADVENTURES OF PRINCE ACHMED, THE (Lotte Reiniger / 1926 / Germany / 65m / BW) 895. (new) DUST IN THE WIND (Hou Hsiao-hsien / 1987 / Taiwan / 109m / Col) 903. (new) REASON, DEBATE AND A STORY (Ritwik Ghatak / 1974 / India / 120m / BW) 907. (927) COMMUNE (PARIS, 1871), LA (Peter Watkins / 2000 / France / 345m / BW) 909. (566) AND LIFE GOES ON� (Abbas Kiarostami / 1992 / Iran / 108m / Col) 915. (588) EXCALIBUR (John Boorman / 1981 / UK / 140m / Col) 917. (728) PL�CIDO (Luis Garc�a Berlanga / 1961 / Spain / 85m / BW) 920. (640) OUTSKIRTS (Boris Barnet / 1933 / USSR / 98m / BW) 931. (871) ART OF VISION, THE (Stan Brakhage / 1965 / USA / 250m / Col) 937. (841) MA�TRES FOUS, LES (Jean Rouch / 1955 / France / 36m / Col) 939. (new) TOUT VA BIEN (Jean-Luc Godard & Jean-Pierre Gorin / 1972 / France, Italy / 95m / Col) 945. (919) QUEEN KELLY (Erich von Stroheim / 1929 / USA / 96m / BW) 958. (664) MOTHER (Vsevolod Pudovkin / 1926 / USSR / 70m / BW) 960. (new) STILL LIFE (Jia Zhangke / 2006 / Hong Kong, China / 113m / Col) 966. (991) TIME TO LOVE AND A TIME TO DIE, A (Douglas Sirk / 1958 / USA / 132m / Col) 968. (new) FANTOMAS (Louis Feuillade / 1913 / France / 314m / BW) 974. (882) OUT 1: SPECTRE (Jacques Rivette / 1972 / France / 255m / Col) 980. (969) UNDER THE BRIDGES (Helmut Ka�tner / 1946 / Germany / 99m / BW) 985. (631) QUE VIVA MEXICO! (Sergei Eisenstein / 1932 / Mexico, USA / 85m / BW) 989. (962) SUR, EL (Victor Erice / 1983 / Spain, France / 95m / Col) 992. (930) MOANA (Robert Flaherty / 1926 / USA / 77m / BW) 1000. (988) DEVIL IN THE FLESH (Claude Autant-Lara / 1947 / France / 110m / BW) |
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| vornporn | Feb 11 2013, 03:18 PM Post #8 |
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A Ryan Seacrest type.
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My ten lowest-rated films on TSPDT: 1. Fellini Satyricon 2. Gummo 3. My Own Private Idaho 4. Safe 5. The Holy Mountain 6. Juliet of the Spirits 7. Alphaville 8. The Sound of Music 9. East of Eden 10. Dogville |
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| YancySkancy | Feb 11 2013, 08:16 PM Post #9 |
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If I counted correctly, I've seen 649 of them. I think my head would explode if I tried to list what I'd remove and add, but I certainly don't agree with all the choices. The thought that something like The Matrix ranks higher than I Vitelloni, Smiles of a Summer Night and Ruggles of Red Gap, to pick just three, is rather depressing, if not surprising. I'd like to see the reputations of two of my '90s favorites, The Dreamlife of Angels and Shall We Dance? rise at least to the level of sneaking onto this list. But, you know, gotta make room for Starship Troopers and The Blues Brothers. EDIT: Looks like I've seen 20 of the ones Jiggy missed, which is small consolation. :) |
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| kid charlemagne | Feb 12 2013, 05:22 AM Post #10 |
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a socialist with holes in his pockets
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Although I'm well aware of the list's flaws, I use this as a watch list as well. I actually like the inclusion of stuff like BLUES BROTHERS as it shows the list is (or attempts to be) a survey of cinema as a whole, including cinema as populist entertainment. |
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| Mister Jiggy, Esq. | Feb 12 2013, 07:05 AM Post #11 |
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Swingin' on the Flippity-Flop
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The 10 I'd most like to see TIME TO LOVE AND A TIME TO DIE, A (Douglas Sirk / 1958 / USA / 132m / Col) BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY, A (Edward Yang / 1991 / Taiwan / 237m / Col) NUIT DU CARREFOUR, LA (Jean Renoir / 1932 / France / 73m / BW) VERDUGO, EL (Luis García Berlanga / 1963 / Spain, Italy / 90m / BW) LONG DAY CLOSES, THE (Terence Davies / 1992 / UK / 83m / Col) LOVE STREAMS (John Cassavetes / 1984 / USA / 141m / Col) SON, THE (Jean-Pierre Dardenne & Luc Dardenne / 2002 / Belgium, France / 103m / Col) THROUGH THE OLIVE TREES (Abbas Kiarostami / 1994 / Iran, France / 103m / Col) XALA (Ousmane Sembene / 1974 / Senegal / 123m / Col) BY THE BLUEST OF SEAS (Boris Barnet / 1936 / USSR / 71m / BW) |
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| Karim Amir | Feb 12 2013, 12:20 PM Post #12 |
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w00t. |
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| Russ | Mar 14 2016, 03:28 PM Post #13 |
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Bark! Go away
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Love their 1001-2000 list. EDIT: Still no Rappaport or Jost. :( |
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