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| 2015 Awards Thread; Like death and taxes... | |
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| Aaron | Dec 14 2015, 05:46 PM Post #61 |
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I meant that they swept critics awards, but didn't take home the big hardware. I didn't recall them winning but it has been a long time. Maybe a better example would be something like Synecdoche, NY, which is too inaccessible to get Oscar appeal, but wins over a lot of critics. It seems rare that a film wins critical awards and Best Picture. The Hurt Locker is an exception. Tree of Life was like a steam engine through the critical circuit and that got it a BP nod in the expanded field, but didn't take home any Oscars -- not even cinematography where it was most deserving. Anyway, my point is that in the 2010s we see a lot more critical accolades for action/adventure films. Part of that may be due to Hollywood not taking as many risks, hence a lot of biopics come out around Oscar time. |
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| sharon peters | Dec 14 2015, 07:14 PM Post #62 |
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Change your title already
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Another factor might be one I've mentioned on here a few times--the Academy's change in recent years to the ranked preferential voting system for the Best Picture category on the final ballots. This system was in use during the nominating phase as far back as I can remember, but it wasn't until around the time of the expanded BP field that they switched to it for the final BP vote as well. Under the old rules, you simply marked your one choice for Best Picture on the final ballot. Now you're supposed to rank them in preferential order, #1-9 or whatever it happens to be for that year. The result is that any love-it-or-hate-it movie like the ones you named have no chance. Although they have a ton of #1 votes due to the very passionate support at the top, they're also likely to have an equal or greater number of #8-9 votes because they're so divisive by nature. Naturally a chief beneficiary of that format is respectable, but middle-of-the-road fare like biopics and handsomely-mounted "prestige" productions. They get far fewer #1 votes, but they're also dramatically more likely to get a swarm of votes in the #2-4 range and thus win the big prize. |
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| Mister Jiggy, Esq. | Dec 14 2015, 08:40 PM Post #63 |
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Sharon - while I suspect you are right - it didn't play out that way for BP this year (for 2014). Winner Birdman would fall in the love-it-or-hate-it category and losers The Theory of Everything or The Imitation Game in the middle-of-the-road fare category. Of course, none of this is an exact science. Aaron I now gather your point - but only one film can win - and I think a nomination is also a strong indicator of Oscar taste and to me it becomes more of a stretch to be critical of this taste by looking at the winner's only and not giving credit for the nomination. Years ago its hard to imagine something like The Grand Budapest Hotel even getting a BP nomination. The expanded field is a development I like. |
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| Aaron | Dec 14 2015, 09:26 PM Post #64 |
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That is a good point, and the same goes for Birdman. Last year the critical accolades more or less lined up with the winners in a lot of categories. Of course the early critical favorite was Boyhood, which ended up with only an acting Oscar, but it was the frontrunner during the early Oscar season. Sharon makes an excellent point about the preferential system and that could hurt Mad Max and maybe Carol (I haven't seen it), both of which will get a lot of #1 votes, but something like Spotlight may be less divisive. Anyway, it was just an observation about the year. The championing of Mad Max reminds me of The Dark Knight, but I am pretty sure that Mad Max will at least get nominated, probably The Martian too. |
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| Aaron | Dec 14 2015, 09:27 PM Post #65 |
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Speaking of Boyhood, looks like it is getting announced as a Criterion release tomorrow along with some other goodies. |
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| vornporn | Dec 15 2015, 09:19 AM Post #66 |
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A Ryan Seacrest type.
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Village Voice Poll top ten: Best Picture 1. Mad Max: Fury Road 2. Carol 3. Spotlight 4. Phoenix 5. Tangerine 6. Anomalisa 7. Clouds of Sils Maria 8. Inside Out 9. Brooklyn 10. The Assassin |
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| YancySkancy | Dec 15 2015, 12:06 PM Post #67 |
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Everybody's in the awards game these days: Indiana Film Journalists Association Best Film Winner: “Spotlight” Runner-up: “Room” Other Finalists (listed alphabetically): “Anomalisa” “The Big Short” “Carol” “The End of the Tour” “Mad Max: Fury Road” “The Martian” “Steve Jobs” “Straight Outta Compton” Best Animated Feature Winner: “Anomalisa” Runner-Up: “Inside Out ” Best Foreign Language Film Winner: “Son of Saul” Runner-Up: “Goodnight Mommy” Best Documentary Winner: “Amy” Runner-Up: “Meru” Best Original Screenplay Winner: Tom McCarthy and Josh Singer, “Spotlight” Runner-up: Matt Charman, Joel & Ethan Coen, “Bridge of Spies” Best Adapted Screenplay Winner: Emma Donoghue, “Room” Runner-up: Adam McKay and Charles Randolph, “The Big Short” Best Director Winner: George Miller, “Mad Max: Fury Road” Runner-up: Tom McCarthy, “Spotlight” Best Actress Winner: Brie Larson, “Room” Runner-up: Charlotte Rampling, “45 Years” Best Supporting Actress Winner: Greta Gerwig, “Mistress America” Runner-up: Elizabeth Banks, “Love & Mercy” Best Actor Winner: Jacob Tremblay, “Room” Runner-up: Jason Segel, “The End of the Tour” Best Supporting Actor Winner: Mark Ruffalo, “Spotlight” Runner-up: Idris Elba, “Beasts of No Nation” Best Vocal/Motion Capture Performance Winner: Phyllis Smith, “Inside Out” Runner-up: Tom Noonan, “Anomalisa” Best Musical Score Winner: Junkie XL, “Mad Max: Fury Road” Runner-up: Disasterpeace, “It Follows” Original Vision Award Winner: “Anomalisa” Runner-up: “Chi-Raq” The Hoosier Award Winner: Angelo Pizzo, writer/director/producer |
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| Russ | Dec 15 2015, 02:48 PM Post #68 |
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Bark! Go away
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I will step off-topic for a second and hand out the first Hoosier Award of Fugee Fantasy Basketball to vornporn: Hoosier Daddy? :naughty: |
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| YancySkancy | Dec 15 2015, 03:26 PM Post #69 |
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I'd be a shoo-in for this if I played Fantasy Basketball, because I actually live in Indiana. |
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| YancySkancy | Dec 16 2015, 09:41 AM Post #70 |
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UK Critics Circle nominees Carol leads with seven, 45 Years got six, five for Mad Max, The Revenant and Steve Jobs. Two docs in the Best Picture category: Amy and The Look of Silence. Tom Hardy nominated in both Actor categories. Supporting Actress has a couple of performances that I don't think have turned up much anywhere else: Olivia Colman in The Lobster and Tilda Swinton in Trainwreck. Hard to Be a God among the Foreign Language Film nominees. |
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| YancySkancy | Dec 17 2015, 11:18 AM Post #71 |
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American Film Institute (AFI) MOVIES OF THE YEAR THE BIG SHORT BRIDGE OF SPIES CAROL INSIDE OUT MAD MAX: FURY ROAD THE MARTIAN ROOM SPOTLIGHT STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON TV PROGRAMS OF THE YEAR THE AMERICANS BETTER CALL SAUL BLACK-ISH EMPIRE FARGO GAME OF THRONES HOMELAND MASTER OF NONE MR. ROBOT UNREAL |
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| YancySkancy | Dec 22 2015, 02:16 PM Post #72 |
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Oh, good grief. The Broadcast Film Critics Association couldn't dare delay their nominations until after Star Wars: The Force Awakens was released, so now they're retro-fitting it into the Best Picture category. Apparently, they did this for Cast Away a few years back, too. Whatevs. I'll adjust the earlier nomination post accordingly. http://www.vulture.com/2015/12/critics-cho...st-picture.html |
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| YancySkancy | Jan 3 2016, 11:43 PM Post #73 |
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National Society of Film Critics -- with point totals (in the Best Director category, Haynes and McCarthy had the same point total, but Haynes was the one who appeared on the majority of ballots, so he got the win) BEST PICTURE Spotlight — 23 Carol — 17 Mad Max: Fury Road — 13 BEST DIRECTOR Todd Haynes, Carol — 21 Tom McCarthy, Spotlight — 21 George Miller, Mad Max: Fury Road — 20 BEST ACTOR Michael B. Jordan, Creed — 29 Géza Röhrig, Son of Saul — 18 Tom Courtenay, 45 Years — 15 BEST ACTRESS Charlotte Rampling, 45 Years — 57 Saoirse Ronan, Brooklyn — 30 Nina Hoss, Phoenix — 22 BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Mark Rylance, Bridge of Spies — 56 Michael Shannon, 99 Homes — 16 Sylvester Stallone, Creed — 14 BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Kristen Stewart, Clouds of Sils Maria — 53 Alicia Vikander, Ex Machina — 23 Kate Winslet, Steve Jobs — 17 Elizabeth Banks, Love & Mercy — 17 BEST SCREENPLAY Josh Singer and Tom McCarthy, Spotlight — 21 Charlie Kaufman, Anomalisa — 15 Charles Randolph and Adam McKay, The Big Short — 15 BEST NON-FICTION FILM Amy — 23 In Jackson Heights — 18 Seymour: An Introduction — 15 BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY Ed Lachman, Carol — 25 Mark Lee Ping-bin, The Assassin — 22 John Seale, Mad Max: Fury Road — 12 FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM Timbuktu — 22 Phoenix — 20 The Assassin — 16 |
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| YancySkancy | Jan 5 2016, 12:48 PM Post #74 |
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PGA nominees (Producers Guild of America) The Big Short Bridge of Spies Brooklyn Ex Machina Mad Max: Fury Road The Martian The Revenant Sicario Spotlight Straight Outta Compton Hmmm... I think maybe the Oscar race just got a little fuzzier. Supposed sure things such as Carol and Room -- not nominated. Strong possibilities such as Creed and Trumbo -- nope. A pat on the back for mega-successful zeitgeist smash Star Wars: The Force Awakens -- didn't happen. Not surprised that The Hateful Eight didn't make it. Awards voters can overlook QT's bloodiness (Basterds and Django both got PGA nods), but having no one to root for may have been too much to ask. The producers of Ex Machina, Sicario and Straight Outta Compton must be thrilled today, but Oscar love is probably still a long shot. Still, this livens things up a little. EDIT: For some reason, the first article I read about this didn't list the nominees in the following categories: Documentary Amy The Hunting Ground The Look of Silence Meru Something Better to Come Animation Anomalisa The Good Dinosaur Inside Out Minions The Peanuts Movie Long-Form Television American Crime (Season 1) American Horror Story: Hotel (Season 5) Fargo (Season 2) True Detective (Season 2) A Very Murray Christmas Episodic Television - Drama Better Call Saul (Season 1) Game of Thrones (Season 5) Homeland (Season 4) House of Cards (Season 3) Mad Men (Season 7B) Episodic Television - Comedy Inside Amy Schumer (Season 3) Modern Family (Season 6) Silicon Valley (Season 2) Transparent (Season 1) Veep (Season 4) Non-Fiction Television 30 for 30 (Season 6) Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown (Season 3) The Jinx: The Life and Deaths of Robert Durst (Season 1) Shark Tank (Season 6) Vice (Season 3) Competition Television The Amazing Race (Seasons 25 and 26) Dancing with the Stars (Seasons 19 and 20) Project Runway (Season 13) Top Chef (Season 12) The Voice (Seasons 7 and 8) Live Entertainment and Talk Television The Colbert Report (Season 11) Key & Peele (Season 4) Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (Season 2) Real Time with Bill Maher (Season 13) The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon (Season 2) Children's Program Doc McStuffins The Fairly OddParents Octonauts Sesame Street Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Toy Story That Time Forgot Digital Series 30 for 30 Shorts Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee Epic Rap Battles of History Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Double Agent This American Life Presents: Videos 4 U Sports Program Back on Board: Greg Louganis E:60 Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Houston Texans Kareem: Minority of One Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel |
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| YancySkancy | Jan 6 2016, 09:42 PM Post #75 |
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American Society of Cinematographers (ASC) “Bridge of Spies” (Janusz Kaminski) “Carol” (Ed Lachman) “Mad Max: Fury Road” (John Seale) “The Revenant” (Emmanuel Lubezki) “Sicario” (Roger Deakins) Hmm, no Hateful Eight. Robert Richardson has never won an ASC award despite three Oscar wins (JFK, The Aviator, Hugo), while Roger Deakins has won three ASC awards, but no Oscars. |
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