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What Do the CDDB Ratings mean to you?; I mean really what is a "mixed"
Topic Started: Jan 28 2017, 09:06 PM (611 Views)
Kevin Harvey
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Another deserter....
Thanks for that, Gabe. Of course an even slightly more generous read of the line makes it obvious what you were about (and you clarified with ease), but I was being specifically ungenerous (in exaggerated fashion) to make a point (though perhaps the only point was that I'm very good at getting in my own way). :)

Language is tricky, and getting from experience to reflection to analysis to understanding to expression is difficult, allowing for many byways and rarely resolving into something particularly clean and clear. So setting down boundary lines, while sometimes useful, isn't always something I welcome, wishing to preserve instead the complexity of the process. To rate something is always implicitly to say, "Okay, I'm done here." Though maybe that's a good move, from a mental health perspective. :)

As for Manchester, Richard Brody's piece is the best I've read, describing the gap between it and Margaret. He's at once admiring and clear-eyed, describing their respective strengths, aims and limits with gentle candor.
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TBickle
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I used to give out a lot more PRO and CON ratings, so I guess I've mellowed with age. It takes a lot to push a great film into PRO territory (I gave 3 out of 300+ films last year a PRO and no PRO+ ratings) but I'm also more forgiving of bad films and they'd have to be aesthetically dull and morally offensive to give the CON/CON- (I probably gave only a handful of any CONs last year as well).

These days:

PRO(+) - Masterpiece. Something I'd likely put in my all-time top 100. Probably needs a second look to get the the +. I will find ways to talk about this every chance I get.
PRO - Near-masterpiece. Might have some minor flaws, but found immensely powerful either aesthetically or emotionally...probably both.
PRO(-) - Great film. Top 5 of the year quality, but something lacking that didn't bowl me over.
pro(+) - Great film, but something didn't quite come together enough for me to completely ignore the negatives.
pro - Good solid film. Most years on our concensus polls, these would take up a majority of the #6-20.
pro(-) - Lots to like, but something about the approach, its message, etc. didn't work.
mixed(+) - Good film. Still would recommend most of these, but not with much enthusiasm.
mixed - Usually has enough going for it where it's still enjoyable or I'm glad I watched it, but multiple aspects left something to be desired.
mixed(-) - On the fence. This is where I leave thinking more about what didn't work than what did.
con(+) - Bad, but something it did was interesting enough to leave a mark or stain, depending on the film.
con - Bad, often forgettable or what is memorable is something strongly negative.
con(-) - Usually completely generic and forgettable in every way. After 2 weeks, I'd have to refer back to my log to confirm whether or not I even watched it.
CON(+) - Hated it without reservation, but
CON - I'm angry at the filmmakers.
CON(-) - No one involved should make another film and I will bitch about it every chance I get.
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After all.....
TBickle,Jan 30 2017
02:17 PM
(I probably gave only a handful of any CONs last year as well).

Nine actually....but then not a single one for the five previous years! (According to CDDB at least).

Looking and playing with some of the stats...particularly the CONs. Kind of interesting stuff...like (from a cursory glance) Karim seems to hate more movies in August and September. Whatever that might mean. Also, there doesn't seem to be a consistent ratio of CON's to total number of watched movies....and there may be something of interest in those numbers as well. Also, Star Trek II didn't make anyone's CON list (yet).I should put up some graphing options.
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Dirt,Jan 30 2017
12:10 PM
Kind of interesting stuff...like (from a cursory glance) Karim seems to hate more movies in August and September. Whatever that might mean.

Well, I am really really crabby in August because it's so damn hot here, and that's also the time school starts back up. :D
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TBickle
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Dirt,Jan 30 2017
12:10 PM
TBickle,Jan 30 2017
02:17 PM
(I probably gave only a handful of any CONs last year as well).

Nine actually....but then not a single one for the five previous years! (According to CDDB at least).

Looking and playing with some of the stats...particularly the CONs. Kind of interesting stuff...like (from a cursory glance) Karim seems to hate more movies in August and September. Whatever that might mean. Also, there doesn't seem to be a consistent ratio of CON's to total number of watched movies....and there may be something of interest in those numbers as well. Also, Star Trek II didn't make anyone's CON list (yet).I should put up some graphing options.

Only 5 were ones I actually watched last year though. I didn't rate anything in the DB for several years, so I have a lot of ratings to make up for.

I just noticed the member search function in the DB - love it!
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YancySkancy
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Of 6,354 titles rated, I've given the CON and its variations to only 74 of them. That's a whopping 1.164620711362921 percent.
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Karim Amir
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sharon's CONs amount to 7.9% of her total ratings...which is the same as my CON percentage! 7.9% :)

She has far fewer PROs, though--7.3%. My percentage is 13.6%. Of course, sharon has seen more films than I.
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Mister Jiggy, Esq.
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YancySkancy,Jan 30 2017
05:32 PM
Of 6,354 titles rated, I've given the CON and its variations to only 74 of them. That's a whopping 1.164620711362921 percent.

Looks like I'm pretty similar - 1.727889%
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Continental Op
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I'm at 6.1% CON but, in my defense, I'm out there taking shrapnel for the team! Who else is going to watch and rate The Animal (2001), The Babymakers (2012), Shark Night 3D (2011), etc?!
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YancySkancy
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06:29 PM
I'm at 6.1% CON but, in my defense, I'm out there taking shrapnel for the team! Who else is going to watch and rate The Animal (2001), The Babymakers (2012), Shark Night 3D (2011), etc?!

That was my job, once upon a time. You have taken the baton and run well.
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You're a brave man, Conty. Thanks for taking one for the CDDB team. <3
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Mister Jiggy, Esq.
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06:29 PM
I'm out there taking shrapnel for the team!

That reminds me I still need to see Encino Man. :P
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Karim Amir,Jan 30 2017
04:45 PM
Dirt,Jan 30 2017
12:10 PM
Kind of interesting stuff...like (from a cursory glance) Karim seems to hate more movies in August and September. Whatever that might mean.

Well, I am really really crabby in August because it's so damn hot here, and that's also the time school starts back up. :D

I had actually wondered if temperature or school might be a variable here. Of course the sampling is too small to make any sort of assumption about the "percentage of academia who hate movies before the fall semester (by heat index)". Or if it's an indication of the quality of late summer films. Or of nothing at all.

And Hail! to everyone who has taken one for the team in the CON department. Which is just about everyone at one point or another (did Max really sit through Skyscraper?).
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yancy
 
That was my job, once upon a time. You have taken the baton and run well.


I can only hope to make you proud.

Karim
 
You're a brave man, Conty. Thanks for taking one for the CDDB team. <3


Thin line between brave and stupid...just my small contribution to you all. Let no bad film be left unseen.

Mr. Jiggy
 
That reminds me I still need to see Encino Man.  tongue.gif


Haha! That shit holds up! It's like the perfect time capsule of an age where it made sense that Pauly Shore was a potential star. He's gold here.
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12:03 AM
yancy
 
That was my job, once upon a time. You have taken the baton and run well.


Of course the difference between you and me is that when taking one for the team, I probably didn't rate any of the films below a mixed. :)
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