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Ratings thread; Summer 2010 thru S13
Topic Started: Nov 7 2009, 08:26 AM (4,131 Views)
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Ratings 05-15 thru 05-19-17

5-15
SG 1.93M, 0.5 #3t
JtV 0.76M, 0.2 #5t

5-16
TF 2.48M, 0.9 #1
iZ 0.86M, 0.3 #4t

5-17
Arrow 1.44M, 0.5 #3t
T100 0.83M, 0.3 #4t

5-18
SPN 12.22 1.75M, 0.6 #2t
SPN S12 Finale 12.23 1.65M 0.6 #2t

5-19
TO was 0.3*,adjusted down to 0.2 #5t
Reign was 0.3*, adjusted down to 0.2 #5t

* likely inflated due to baseball preemption in NYC; will adjust if necessary on Monday and add ranks

** Note 1: Both TO and Reign adjusted down 0.1

It was 'penultimate week' for 5 CW shows and 'finale week' for Supernatural and I'm legitimately pleased to report that SPN was in the #2 spot for this week after inching back to 0.6 demo for both episodes.

*** Not 2: DVR data added for week ending 5-7-17 in thread. No '7 day data' was released the week ending 4-30-17 which marks the second time TVBTN fell down on the job.

ETA #1:
L+3 SPN 12.22/23

Supernatural 0.58 ... 0.87
Like many TV sites PI reported the back to back episodes as a single 2 hour finale. It will be curious to see what TVBTN does for L+7 reporting because the site did report the two episodes separately in the Finals.

At ~ 50% increase SPN might not make the cutoff for the L+7's this week. Coincidentally, even though they had a little better 'L+SD' unrounded ratings, both the SG and Arrow finales at 0.6 the following week had the same ~ 50% increases yet have a better chance of making the L+7's because many shows had their finales the same week as SPN.

:rah I'm happy to report SPN did make the L+7's 'this period' coming in at the bottom of the chart with 67% increase to 1.0, the show's first verifiable 1.0 since 2-2-17, episode 12.10.

To explain further: Episode 12.12 received the only 0.7 this year (to date) and almost certainly received at least 1.0 if not 1.1 but all this winter and spring the % cutoff for making 'Chart 2' has been very high because of the sheer number of network shows 'going fractional' - more than I've seen so several of the 'mid level CW performers' (SG/LoT/Arrow/SPN) occasionally don't make the cutoffs. 12.11, 12.13 and 12.14 all received 0.6's but I had to 'guestimate' all three receiving ~ 1.0 based on extrapolation of the L+3's.

Same with 12.16 - also 0.6 but the cutoff was low that week so I guestimated no higher than 0.95. Exclusive of 12.16 until 12.22/23 the remainder have received 0.5 with a max 0.4 increase (rounded).

ETA #2: Live + 7 DVR results for week ending May 21, 2017

Chart 1: TF 0.9 to 1.8, 100%

Chart 2:
JtV 0.2 to 0.5, 150%; SG 0.5 to 1.0, 100%; iZ 0.3 to 0.6, 100%; Reign 0.2 to 0.4, 100%; Arrow 0.5 to 0.9, 80%; SPN 0.6 to 1.0, 67%; TO & T100 0.3 to 0.5, 67%. Chart ended at 67%

Chart 4:
SPN 1.697M to 2.603M, 53%
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Ratings 05-22 thru 05-26-17

5-22
SG S2 Finale 2.12M, 0.6 #2 (demo ties LoT, Arrow & SPN’s finales)
JtV S3 Finale 0.96M, 0.3 #3t

5-23
TF S3 Finale 3.04M, 1.1 #1
iZ 0.98M, 0.3 #3t

5-24
Arrow S5 Finale 1.72M, 0.6 #2t
T100 S4 Finale 0.91M, 0.3 #3t

5-25
SPN r 12.01 0.2
SPN r 12.02 0.2

5-26 P&T repeats (new TO & Reign next Friday)

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 marked the end of the 2016-2017 Broadcast year and Thursday May 25 is Summer Broadcast start. Flash finale was way ahead in #1 position at 1.1 demo and the Legends of Tomorrow, Supergirl, Arrow and Supernatural finales all demo-tied at 0.6, not bad for a 12 year old show, tying 3/4 more heavily promoted DC shows.

ETA #1: Live + 7 DVR results for week ending May 28, 2017

Chart 1 and 2: TF 1.1 to 1.9, 73%; SG & Arrow 0.6 to 1.1, 83; iZ 0.3 to 0.7, 133%; JtV and T100 0.3 to 0.6, 100% --> these were all on Charts 1 and 2.

There were far fewer new scripted on that week and the greater increases of SG and Arrow are why I’d prefer the S12 Finale to be Thursday May 25, regardless of the finale being outside the regular broadcast year – the SPN’s finale been ‘late’ before. The CW could have rerun the RD premiere and second episode then re-air the whole season later in the summer. Per Futon Critic RD S1 reruns starts 6-23-17 after the S4 finale of TO.

This ends my ‘Delayed Viewing’ reporting for this season – all that’s left are the late entries, final season Reign and the last few episodes of the renewed iZ and TO.

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Tuesday, 5-30
iZ 0.92M, 0.3

Friday 6-2
TO 1.03M, 0.4
Reign 0.74M, 0.2

No scripted CW re-run received higher than a 0.2 this week
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Mon 6-5 SG r 0.3 vs Gotham Finale episodes

Tuesday, 6-6
TF r 0.1 --> CW preempted in NYC for sporting event; noteworthy because I think it’s a comment on how bland fans thought S3 was, for a TF r not to get even 0.2
iZ 0.71M, 0.2

Arrow/LoT/SPNx2 0.2

Friday, 6-9
TO 0. 89M, 0.3
Reign 0.66M, 0.2
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Tuesday, 6-13 iZombie 0.78M, 0.3

Friday, 6-16
TO 1.01M, 0.3
Reign S4 Series Finale 0,75M, 0.2
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Back in the ratings saddle .... almost :) . Just a quick notification that tonight's SPN 13 premiere (and Arrow S6 to an extent) will face massive sports competition today with NFL cable and broadcast and baseball. Not to mention Fox's popular Gotham Getting an 0.6 (match of last year's final for both SPN and Arrow) will be a miracle and I expect no greater than an 0.5, if that.

So far the ratings are (to be repeated in the next post after the Thursday finals tomorrow) are a lackluster SG 0.5/ Valor 0.3, a still great but down a little TF 1.1/ sturdy LoT of 0.6, and preliminary - and astonishing - 0.8 for Riverdale and a 0.4 for Dynasty.

This season I drop the weekly roundup with ranks and just post results; if there's adjustments to Friday's CEG and JtV I'll edit after the Friday finals are released on Monday (usually)

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Another time I'm happy to wrong about the ratings (assuming the demo holds):

CW PR for Thursday, October 12, 2017

• FROM THE CW
As a multi-platform network, a big part of The CW’s audience watches us on delayed viewing and digital platforms. So these numbers will change significantly when complete viewing across all platforms is counted.
With that said, a strong return for Supernatural, in its 13th season and in a new time period.

Supernatural improved on the year ago time period (premiere of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow) by +15% in total viewers (2.1M), +20% in A18-34 (0.6/3), and +17% in A18-49 (0.7/3).

Supernatural was also up significantly versus last season’s finale, +24% in total viewers, +20% in A18-34, and +17% in A18-49. It was flat versus last season’s premiere in total viewers.

Supernatural ranked #3 (tie) in the 8-9pm hour in A18-34.

Arrow returned at a new night and time right on par with last season’s finale, and matching its season averages last season in both A18-34 (0.5/2) and A18-49 (0.6/2).

Last season both Supernatural and Arrow saw a large part of their viewing done on digital and delayed viewing platforms. Arrow averaged a 111% lift in 7-day delayed and digital viewing over its L+SD A18-49 rating, and Supernatural averaged a 97% increase last season.

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There were small local preemptions reported so this may affect total viewers but the demo for SPN may hold and Arrow might go up.

The last and only date in S12 that SPN got over 2 million viewers was the S12 premiere with a final of 2.15M, 0.8.

I don't expect this rating to hold - last year it didn't in a less competitive Fall time period (9 pm, after LoT). TBBT hasn't returned in this time period yet, still this rating is far more positive than I was dreading.

I'm pleased to report SPN's total viewers (2.10M) and demo (0.7) held in the finals. Arrow's demo (0.6) also held and Arrow lost some viewers for a total of 1.52. Still Arrow did well on a high male competition night. My guess is with the exception of the Arrow-verse 4 show crossover event, just as before when they were teamed, SPN will swap places and tie this fall.
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Ratings for CW Premiere Week 2017

Mon 10-9
SG S3 P 1.87M, 0.5 - -> ties series low
Valor S1 P 1.20M, 0.3

10-10
TF S4 P 2,84M, 1.1 – adj up 0.1
LoT S3 P 1.71M, 0.6

10-11
RD S2 P 2.34M.0.8 --> series high
Dynasty S1 P 1.26M, 0.3, adj down 0.1

10-12
SPN S13 P 13.01 2.10M, 0.7
Arrow 6.01 1.52M, 0.6

10-13
CEG S3 P <1M, 0.2
JtV S4 P <1M. 0.3

As with last Fridays, these are preliminary rating - to be edited if there's any change when the data is released, Monday afternoons at earliest. I get Nielsen Data for the Finals from several sources including tvbythenumbers, SpoilerTV and Showbuzzdaily, whichever happens to be posted first.

When the first delayed ratings are available for Thursdays only (L+3's) I'll post the link. For L+7's the only source I use is tvbythenumbers.com unless I see them posted on the ratings site first.
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From L+3's episodes 01

ETA #1: L+3's for the premieres are actually listed on TVBTN too, but I missed them (this is source of the WFB site)I don't expect TVBTN to list more L+3's for other weeks. Sometimes TF makes the top 25 and sometimes it doesn't. My usual source "PI Insider" may have dropped the feature.

extracted only SPN 13.01/Arrow 6.01

SPN 0.7 to 1.0, 43% * may not make the L+7’s so I may have to guestimate
Arrow 0.6 to 1.0, 67%


ETA #2: + 7 DVR results for week ending Oct 15, 2017
From TVBTN

Chart 1: TF 1.1 to 1.8, 64%

Chart 2:

SG 0.5 to 1.0, 100%; JtV 0.3 to 0.6, 100%; Arrow 0.6 to 1.1, 83%;RD 0.8 to 1.4, 75%; LoT 0.6 to 1.0, 67%; Dynasty 0.3 to 0.5, 67%

Chart 2 ended at 67^%

No Valor (0.3), SPN (0.7), or CEG (0.2)

Added RD L+7's that I missed
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Ratings for the week starting 10-16-2017

10-16
SG 1.76M, 0.5
Valor 0.99M, 0.2

10-17
TF 2.54M, 0.9 - -> ties series low
LoT 1.58M, 0.5 - -> ties series low

10-18
RD 1.76M, 0.6
Dyn 0.92M, 0.3

10-19
SPN S13 13.02 1.90M, 0.7:rah adj up from 0.6 (FYI SPN is #2 for this week)
Arrow 6.02 1.51M, 0.5 --> adj down from 0.6

10-20
CEG <1M, 0.2
JtV <1M, 0.2

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A new source for L+3's, however I don't know if it's going to be updated weekly. "RJK" at spottedratings.com also provides the 'unrounded data' that is received from Nielsen.

Another note - in this link you may see 'week 4' referenced. That's because the official start of the TV broadcast year started 4 weeks ago. All CW shows started in 'Week 3' of the broadcast year, therefore these results are from the 'second episode' of each show (aka 'Week 4")

CW L+3's all shows Week 4

(extracted only SPN/Arrow from this data)

Supernatural .................. 0.98
Arrow ............................. 0.90

SPN performed better 'this' week than premiere week rising from an 'unrounded' of 0.662 to 0.98.

ETA #2: Live + 7 DVR results for week ending Oct 22, 2017

Chart 1: TF 0.9 to 1.7, 89%

Chart 2:
JtV 0.2 to 0.5, 150%; RD 0.6 to 1.2, 100%; Arrow 0.5 to 1.0, 100%; SG & LoT, 0.5 to 0.9, 80%

Chart ended at 73%

No Dyn/CEG (0.2) or SPN 0.7

SPN is performing a little better in delayed viewing so far this year - the show received a solid 1.0 in the L+3's for the first two episodes and above 0.9 for 13.03 - but much like the data from the winter move to 8 pm is just not getting the solid 1.1's to 1.2's of 5 1/2 years. I just don't feel - like many fans - the quality of writing in general is there.
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CW ratings for the week starting 10-23-17

10-23
SG 1,76M, 0.5
Valor 0.88M, 0.2

10-24
TF 2.62M, 1.0
LoT 1.43M, 0.5

10-25
RD 1.62M, 0.6
Dyn 0.72M, 0.2

10-26
SPN S13 13.03 1.93M, 0.6
Arrow 6.03 1.34M, 0.5

10-27
CEG <1M, 0.2
JtV <1M, 0.3 *adjusted up in Finals

* As before Friday ratings are preliminary to be adjusted if needed when the Finals are released Monday afternoon.

SPN slipped a little this week but tied for #2 show with RD. However as TBBT and Young Shelden have their Thursday 'premieres' starting with SPN 13.04, the ratings might see further dips. OTOH SG may see ratings increases without competition from the Monday airings of TBBT.


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(FYI SG's ratings stayed at 0.5 demo even without TBBT competition- we'll see how SPN does this week. So far I've seen a few prime time banners and a full 13.04 promo during tonight's TF)

L+3 ratings for episode 3's for M-R

(extracted SPN 13.03/Arrow 6.03)

Supernatural 0.641 ...... 0.94
Arrow 0.476 ....... 0.80

ETA #1: Live + 7 DVR results for week ending Oct 29, 2017

Chart 1: TF 1.0 to 1.8, 80%

Chart 2:

RD 0.6 to 1.2, 100%; SPN 0.6 to 1.1, 83%; SG/LoT/Arrow 0.5 to 0.9, 80%
Chart 2 ended at 75%

No Valor, Dynasty, CEG, or JtV

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Just a few pre-weekly ratings notes:

1) Last year both No Tomorrow and Frequency were 'capped' at 13 episodes on November 3, 2016; they were both later cancelled. This year Valor may be on the cap then cancel list but Dynasty may not be - apparently it's already been sold internationally as well as having the same Netflix International next day streaming deal as Riverdale.

2) Last year the 'Winter/MidSeason schedule came out on November 16, 2016. Evidently tweets from cast members confirm January premieres for both Black Lightning and Life Sentence - I've read their S1's are capped at 13 episodes.I haven't a clue where they will be on the schedule but I expect some shuffling. Maybe even at least one show will be put on hiatus until either or both BL and LS air their episodes. Still to be fit in, veteran shows The 100 S5, iZombie S4 and S5, the Final Season of The Originals.

3) The combo of Game 6 of the World Series plus Halloween was brutal to almost all scripted shows with many, including The Flash and Legends hitting new series lows.

Thankfully SPN wasn't affected by TBBT/YS this week and tied Riverdale for second place in live + same day ratings - 0.6. SPN may not be that lucky next week (or later weeks thru episode 9) as Football returns on NBC.
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CW ratings for the week starting Oct 30, 2017

10-30
SG 1.82M, 0.5--> w/o TBBT
Valor 0.94M, 0.2

10-31
TF 1.99M, 0.7--> series low VS game 6 of WS, which scored very high, and Halloween. Most broadcast was down to series lows
LoT 1.38M, 0.4 - -> series low

11-1
RD 1.58M, 0.6
Dyn 0.76M, 0.2

11-2
SPN 13.04 1.82M, 0.6 --> against TBBT/YS; held up well
Arrow 6.04 1.33M, 0.5

11-3
CEG <1M, 0.2
JtV <1M, 0.2

L+3's week of Oct 30 ep 4's M-R complete

(extracted SPN/Arrow 04’s)

Supernatural 0.645 ...... 0.97 --> so close to a rounded 0.7 (0.006 for an 0.651 at weakly tying TF for #1); as before I’m going to guestimate ~ 1.1 if SPN doesn’t make the top 25 for this L+7 period

Arrow 0.467 ....... 0.78

ETA #1: Live + 7 DVR results for week ending Nov 5/2017

Chart 1: TF 0.7 to 1.4, 100%

Chart 2:

JtV 0.2 to 0.5, 150%; LoT 0.4 to 0.9, 125%; Dynasty 0,2 to 0.4, 100%; RD 0.6 to 1.1, 83%; SG & Arrow 0.5 to 0.9, 80%

Chart ended at 78%
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CW gives Dynasty S1 a 'back 9'; Valor capped at 13

‘Dynasty’ Gets Full-Season Pickup From the CW, No Back Order For ‘Valor’

by Nellie Andreeva

The CW Network has made decisions on its two new fall series, giving a full season order to the Dynasty reboot and opting not to pick up additional episodes of military soap Valor beyond the original 13. Dynasty has received a 9-episode back order, bringing its freshman season to 22 episodes.

Like No Tomorrow and Frequency last fall, Valor is not being officially canceled, with its 13-episode order playing out on the CW before the first season gets on Netflix in early 2018. The CW brass will take a look in the spring on Valor‘s SVOD performance before making a final Season 2 decision. The network did the same earlier this year, with No Tomorrow and Frequency both ultimately getting canceled in May.

Neither Dynasty nor Valor have been breakouts, though Valor just logged its first ratings increase this past Monday, matching the premiere series high adults 18-49 Live+same rating of 0.3 with a near-series high audience of 1.1 million. For comparison, Dynasty,which has a slightly lower lead-in, most recently drew a 0.2 in 18-49 and 744,000 viewers (Live+same day).

But Dynasty is a reboot of a famous IP from big-name producers, Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage. Despite its tepid linear ratings, the soapy drama, produced by CBS TV Studios, is a moneymaker for the CW co-parent CBS as it has a rich worldwide distribution deal with Netflix, making the renewal decision almost a foregone conclusion.

The new Dynasty centers on the powerful Carrington family as they defend their throne against the Colbys, new rivals and threats, and even each other.The series stars Elizabeth Gillies, Nathalie Kelley, James Mackay, Sam Adegoke, Robert Christopher Riley and Rafael de la Fuente, with Alan Dale and Grant Show.

Dynasty is from CBS Television Studios in association with Fake Empire, with executive producers Josh Schwartz, Stephanie Savage, Sallie Patrick, Esther and Richard Shapiro (the creators of the original “Dynasty”) and Brad Silberling
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I have no idea what the 'Winter/early Spring CW season will look like now as both Black Lightning and Life Sentence were previously planned (per cast tweets) for January starts. I hope SPN doesn't dumped on Fridays so soon.
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CW Ratings for the week starting 11-6-2017


11-6
SG 1.87M, 0.5
Valor 1.12M, 0.3

11-7
TF 2.38M, 0.9
LoT 1.52M, 0.5

11-8
RD 1.47M, 0.5
Dynasty 0.75M,0.2

11-9
SPN S13 13.05 1.71M, 0.6
Arrow 6.05 1.29M, 0.5

11-10
CEG <1M, 0.2
JtV <1M, 0.3

SPN was #2 after TF this week and might be #2 this week for 13.06. Next week is Thanksgiving and both SPN and Arrow will be lucky to get 0.3's. The week starting 11-27 is the DC 4-way crossover and SPN's relative position in the CW ranks will hurt only partially because SPN will face heavy competition and The CW DC's will likely get a crossover boost.

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CW Week ending 11-10-17 L+3 for Mon - Thurs ep 5's

Extracted SPN/Arrow

Supernatural 0.596 .....0.91
Arrow.0.459 ..... 0.80

Besides true outlier The Flash, all shows receiving 0,5’s for this week had proportionally higher % increases making SPN less likely to make the top 25. I will guestimate 1.0-1.1; like last broadcast year more shows are ‘fractional’

ETA #1: Live + 7 DVR results for week ending Nov 12, 2017
Chart 1: TF 0.9 to 1.7, 89%

Chart 2:
SG & RD 0.5 to 1.0, 100%; LoT & Arrow 0.5 to 0.9, 80%

Chart ended at 70%
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