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| fandrea | Oct 13 2010, 06:47 PM Post #16 |
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You're Like a Walking Encyclopedia of Weirdness
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That's interesting I totally forgot the weird Campbell bunch. *blush* But guess Castiel doesn't have a connection to them or he doesn't think the two are related? He probably didn't think it concerned heaven though, otherwise he would have answered Sam's call. Oh the Destiel moment. I cannot wait to see the fics from that one. *gags* It was bad enough that we had to listen to the EDGs going on and on about how Castiel answered his BFF.
I liked Baltazar too, I definitely don't think we have seen the last of him either. Methinks he is somehow connected to Sam getting out of hell some way, but that's just speculation. And the frightened look on Sam's face, now that was a shocker, the first glimps of Sam underneath the hardened exterior? In that scene that was Sam scared shitless definitely.
I have to agree on the Sam not beeing completely soulless part, Sam definitely has feelings and is more like himself around Dean. And he is definitely not pure evil or dead. I am more thinking that maybe part of his soul got ripped out and someone has it. Maybe a part of a deal or someone bought it. (Heh, wouldn't it be a kicker if even a part of Sam's soul has enough value for something?) I do think Raphale and his apoc-pals have to do something with bringing Sam back, they need Lucifers vessel topside afterall. And yes that angel fight scene was lame...
Yes this is exactly why I don't like moral-compass Dean. And I was also surprised that Castiel just let Balty go like that and with all the weapons no less! Later it's going to bite then in the butt, I am sure...
Well what can I say I have been very deprived of sam in peril and hurt!Sam (and protective Dean), I take what I can get. :lol: And yeah I really hope we get the demon blood mystery cleared up, just hope they don't drag it out too much though. (As they usually do.)
Yes to this too... Ok it's late at night and I really shouldbe in bed (well ok I am on my bed with my laptop) so I hope the commentingmakes sense. fandrea |
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| Irishgirl | Oct 14 2010, 10:41 AM Post #17 |
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A Big, Steamy Pile of Nothing
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I has not happy that Sam's car was destroyed. Why couldn't they have let him store it at Bobby's?
I think I know what you're talking about. What I find funny is that a lot of people were crowing about Castiel's 'special' bond with Dean. First off Cas never used the word special and secondly if you know anything about grammar, which I do, Cas didn't say he had no bond with Sam, he just said that the bond he was more profound thus implying a bond with Sam, just not as profound as the one with Dean. Which makes sense to me b/c Cas has spent more time with Dean. It bothered me that some viewers interpreted that to mean that Cas and Sam had no bond what so ever. |
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| tammitam | Oct 14 2010, 08:27 PM Post #18 |
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Out of the Fire and Back in the Frying Pan
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I finally rated this "It was okay" though I was torn between that and pretty good. Pretty good only because there was something there that had been missing in episodes 1&2. I liked the banter, and while I think Cas is a jerk, at least this time he was honest. Not that I like him dissing Sam, but it was far better than his, "Sam is my friend." after he let Sam out of the cage, then let him take full blame. I need to rewatch, because some of you saw things I didn't, but I think that is because I've ... not been glued as in years past. Frankly, the first two episodes bored me, and this was just a hair above that. Had this been my first glimpse of Supernatural, I would never had stopped except to say, "What hunks..." as I changed the channel. |
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| markie | Oct 15 2010, 09:59 AM Post #19 |
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Who You Gonna Call?
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I liked this esp for obvious reasons.. But I have reached saturation point now with Dean,s pov and it doesnt look to get any better.. Boy it has been a while since I posted here
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| Scifidiva | Oct 17 2010, 11:57 PM Post #20 |
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You're Invited Too, Grumpy!
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I assume he would know Sam and Samuel Campbell were related because he sent Dean back into the past to see what the angels knew about Sam, and Dean ended up at the Campbell’s. Cas knew or seemed to know that Mary Campbell was the original “deal maker” with Azazel. I agree, though, about Castiel not be concerned and I put forward the idea that Castiel knew that SAM got out of the cage somehow, he didn’t seem worried that Sam was still Lucifer!Sam and that’s why he wasn’t too interested/was too busy with other matters than in responding to Sam’s prayers.
Could be, though how “they” could resurrect Sam and leave Luci and Mikey still in the cage stumps me – unless the intriguing theory of Lucifer’s cage was designed to hold “angels” but not human bodies or souls is true. <Then step 2 would be freeing Lucifer (and Michael’s) angel forms to re-take their vessels>. Maybe Sam’s body/soul and Adam’s (assuming that Adam wouldn’t give permission to Michael unless his soul was freed to go to Heaven with his mother and “Adam” truly “couldn’t come to the phone” in Swan Song because Adam’s soul had already “left” [like Ruby did when she possessed Coma Girl – she “walked in” when the spirit moved on]) was in imprisoned in 9th Circle of Hell but “Outside” the Cage. Very slightly OT, Percysowner on the CW board advanced the idea that the “Boy King” Sam had abdicated to Crowley the Hell Throne that was his “right” as Lucifer’s vessel in exchange for freedom, making Crowley a part of how Sam got out. If Sam’s abdication could be construed as “a deal” then Crowley could have resurrected Sam. But I think only if Sam’s body/soul was outside the cage; I don’t think Crowley is powerful enough on his own to separate Sam’s soul from Lucifer if “he” was still inside the cage. (And as part of the "Deal", Sam's brain was windexed, assuming demons have that power and we've seen them exhibit that ability on the show - so likely another "angel" player is involved, maybe Raphael, maybe Death).
This properly goes in WAB, but after 6.04’s “Crowley’s disposition” with Sam saying virtually the same thing as Castiel did, I’m pretty sure we were supposed to see the parallel between Sam’s and Castiel’s actions. Maybe Sam was just grateful to Crowley for helping the boys and Bobby in the past, as well as ripping up Bobby's "contract" and leaving his legs healed. Maybe New!Sam sees some strategic value in having the "King of Hell" in HIS debt for all that Crowley blew off the "Moose's assistance". |
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