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How would you rate “Clap your hands if you believe”?
Awesome! 5 (62.5%)
Pretty good 3 (37.5%)
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Episode 6.09 “Clap your hands if you believe”; Episode discussion and rating poll
Topic Started: Nov 19 2010, 08:55 AM (391 Views)
Scifidiva
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Official Description:

“Supernatural” 6.09 “Clap your hands if you believe”

FAIRIES! - While Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) are investigating a UFO sighting, Dean is abducted from a crop circle. However, when he awakens, he discovers he isn't dealing with aliens, but fairies! Unfortunately, only Dean can see the fairy that keeps attacking him which makes tracing and stopping them difficult. The brothers become even more perplexed when Sam's investigation leads them to a world full of elves, gnomes and a leprechaun.
John Showalter directed the episode written by Ben Edlund (#609).

:waves: Enjoy the episode and please rate and discuss
Hopefully, we'll get another Soon promo because the last two episodes of this year are supposed to be intense.
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"Pretty good."

Love robo!Sam.

ADORE Jared (the guy get's prettier with every week, seriously, I'm just drooling at him now all the time!).

Dean's continous sulking and trying to get Sam to feel something when he can't is getting pretty old and makes Dean look like a drama-queen (that scene when he came back from the abduction and tried to make Sam feel what he went through just was one major eye-rolling-moment for me). I mean, it worked in this episode since they probably did it for the fun-value of it, but still, Dean has to realize Sam can't feel and he could at least try to understand him. But, yeah, I'm not angry about that anymore, I'm taking Sam's lead: I don't care about Dean. :D

What else... Well, a little disappointed that the faries came off like that, I hate fluffy fairies. And "elves" working in that shop.... Nooo, not really, had me roll my eyes again.

Oh, and Dean's funny scenes... Jensen OTT, like usual, I've never been a fan of that kind of humor. I'm not blaming Jensen, I think it's the script, just not my cup of tea.

But, all in all, still enjoyed it and JARED/Sam... Really, right now I wish Sam never gets his soul back.
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Anna
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i agree with whoever says Dean's sulking is getting old! Sam physically cannot feel anything and it's really painful and i wish to hell Dean would realise that. Sam CANNOT feel!!! and i feel so sorry for him...i don't prefer Robo Sam like some people do, like i didn't prefer evil Sam, i just love the Sam underneath and all the struggles he goes through are just adding to that and how cool he is with it all mixed in together...had to get that out there!
the fairies thing was really unexpected for supernatural, it just made me go WHAT THE HELL???? but it was kinda cool and i like how Sam was the one beat him...because i love hero Sam basically. But the no soul thing is so sad and painful, all th humour in this one was kind of laugh-or-cry i thought, co Sammy is so different... and Dean is still being DENSE as hell.
i wish he'd show that he really cares. he's not showing any empathy himself for Sam, and he's physically capable of doing it
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Anna,Nov 20 2010
01:32 PM
i wish he'd show that he really cares. he's not showing any empathy himself for Sam, and he's physically capable of doing it

See, my WTF-moment was when this Dean went all "Empathy, SAM!" on Sam. I seriously was like What the Hell, Dean? I think that side of Dean is SO sad it isn't even funny anymore, not even in a funny episode like this.
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I just can't hate or bash one of the characters. I don't always agree, however, I think it is just that Dean can't understand ... he had one Sam, now he has the opposite. I don't agree with everything, but I don't think it is Dean being heartless.

I rather liked this episode, all of it. The Pinochio references were hilarious.
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I’m loving Jared’s work as “Soulless Sam”, too, but I am getting eager for the return of ansty, hell-tormented Sam as long as the guilt of the deeds he performed does not overshadow the fact that his death “Saved the World” and instead of heartfelt “Thank Yous”, Sam got his soul ripped out.

I voted "Awesome" and this episode is vying with BDABR as my all time favorite comedy episode. I’ve always been very picky with comedic episodes (except the Trickster/Gabriel ones which are all great, even HOTG if you can forget the all pagan gods are cannibals thing). I absolutely hated WT’s “Suicidal Teddy Bear” and also detested Ghostfacers, but the “Fairies” worked well for me although I admit to having serious misgivings. Maybe I just was in an odd mood but I don’t think I’ve laughed so hard, a good, hearty laugh, not a “this-is-so-lame- brittle laugh”, since BDABR, maybe even more because this time both Sam and Dean had very funny lines.

I’ll attempt to answer the negative stuff Anna and Mikiya are having a hard time with. It’s just my opinion but most comedic episodes seem to have the boys acting as exaggerated (“OTT”) versions of themselves and that contributes to the “dark comedy”. I initially bristled at Dean’s “having a soul = suffering” speech until that was countered by Sam’s irrefutable logic “like the million times you almost called Lisa”. Obviously this sets up the situation where Sam is going to have second thoughts about what he told Dean at the end of 6.08. And “But it’d be the dark” is one of my new favorite Sam lines.

I DO agree that the “Empathy, Sam!” line is almost too, too much (because Dean knows that that Soulless Sam doesn’t possess empathy) but I CAN reason that within the context of CYHIYB being a “Funny” episode that Dean’s small bit of patience with "Jiminy Cricketing" New!Sam was broken.

I loved the scene where Sam went to the UFO campground and told “Wayne” that he sucked at UFO hunting. And naturally I liked the scene where Sam hooked up with the UFO groupie and wish it was a longer scene but when Dean interrupted them it was very funny. “Oh, this is Dean….I totally get it that you need some family time” (or something like that).

Then Sam questioning what Dean saw when he was abducted – it reminded me of a humorous version of Sam asking what he saw in the Vamp’s nest. Sam pats Dean’s leg, wondering if it an appropriate response or not “This is a safe room”.

I loved the boys working the case together – once they realized fairies and not UFO’s were responsible – from different angles. New!Sam (logical) was amazing in getting the truth out of Mr. Brennan, just as he was in YCHTT when he knew the woman (who killed herself in Biggerson’s) was lying – sometimes the touchy feely (empathetic) “crap” gets in the way and more lives might potentially be lost. Sam wasn’t cruel to Brennan, he was just blunt. I was (delightfully) surprised that “Wayne” turned out to be the Leprechaun that Mr. Brennan had made the deal with. Was sad that Brennan was killed but very glad that we got our dose of hurt!Sam (and Hurt!Dean who was being beat up in the prison cell by the “Red Cap”).

It was interesting that Wayne also knew that Sam’s soul was missing; that makes two supernatural entities that have “sensed” that Sam had no soul without the painful, invasive technique that Castiel used; I’m beginning to smell a Cas –rat (or a retcon from S5); also interesting that Wayne offered to retrieve Sam’s soul “for a price” because fairy folk have ways of getting around the back doors of places.

Not my theory but posters of other boards suggested that Crowley/Fergus became a Leprechaun himself (doubtful) or made a deal with Leprechauns to gain access to Luci’s cage, resurrect Sam but leave his soul in the cage for leverage. The CRD Bobby killed did call Crowley “Lucky the Leprechaun”. A clue maybe to Crowley’s “true-er identity” or that Crowley made a deal with a Leprechaun both to gain enormous power and the ability to come and go from Lucifer’s cage at will. It’s possible – but why wait (over a year) until FM to tell Sam that he brought back Samuel and Sam, unless he was waiting for Dean to get back to hunting? That could work – if Crowley is not lying about everything.

Also intriguing – but may mean anything or nothing – at two occasions when the boys investigated Brennan’s shop and when Sam and Brennan were trying to stop the fairies, the “street sign” seen from the inside the shop seemed to read “Carthage” – and what do “Carthage”, a fairy infested watchmaker’s shop and Crowley have to do with each other. Crowley sent the boys (Jo, Ellen and Castiel) to Carthage to hunt “the Devil”.

I wonder if “Wayne” was the Alpha Fairy or just a “pack leader” like the one that Sam shot in ADGTH. I don’t think Sam killed him, he just sent all the fairies back through to “fairyland” in reversing the spell. The reason I bring this up is that both Sam and Dean are considered “marked/valuable”; Sam, because as “Soulless Guy” he’s the perfect animal and Dean as first born has been claimed by the Fairy Folk. These “threads” may never be revisited – we know that Sam will get his soul back, we just don’t when/how, but Dean as first born and therefore “important” to supernatural critters may become a recurring theme later in S6 or even into S7 if the show is renewed.
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Heh, if Crowley were a Leprechaun, that'd explain why we haven't seen his eyes change color yet! :P
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Leilana,Nov 24 2010
02:03 PM
Heh, if Crowley were a Leprechaun, that'd explain why we haven't seen his eyes change color yet! :P

I don't think Crowley is a Leprechaun but he may have made a deal with a Leprechaun; I can't imagine what Crowley "promised" in exchange for the rapid increase in "Hell Power" that was revealed in S5.

"Crowley" climbed the demonic ranks in "only" approximately four centuries after his death/own deal to achieve the rank of "King of the Crossroads" and with Lucifer and Michael in the Cage, he's assumed the title "King of Hell". By comparison Lilith and Azazel were "Old Testament age" (1000's of years old). Maybe he promised this theoretical "Leprechaun" Sam's potentially "demonized" soul and Dean's eternal servitude in exchange for his "rapid advancement".

I rewatched the episode and the "Carthage" name is on a water reservoir tower; I don't know if that's connected to anything or whether there is really is a water tower in the Vancouver area that says "Carthage" on it.

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LOL I was only kidding. :P I wasn't actually being serious. I highly doubt Crowley is a Leprechaun as well. I was just kinda messing around because we've never seen his eye color, so I thought I'd make a joke. :lol: But eh, I doubt he's made a deal with one considering at the end of that ep, all the elves and leps and whatever else was from this other magical world or whatever it was disappeared and I'm going to assume that access to that other realm is all closed up now since the spell was broken thanks to Sam.
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Leilana,Nov 24 2010
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LOL I was only kidding. :P I wasn't actually being serious. I highly doubt Crowley is a Leprechaun as well. I was just kinda messing around because we've never seen his eye color, so I thought I'd make a joke. :lol: But eh, I doubt he's made a deal with one considering at the end of that ep, all the elves and leps and whatever else was from this other magical world or whatever it was disappeared and I'm going to assume that access to that other realm is all closed up now since the spell was broken thanks to Sam.

Oh I knew you weren't serious :D . You're right and Crowley is the only demon we've never seen his eyes change color. I just thought it was an interesting theory, particularly with what the CRD in WAB said his "nickname" was.

The "fairy" storyline may never be revisited but if the Dark Fairy are acting like the other supernatural creatures are this season, they are expanding the numbers and the First Borns they're abducting may be used for something besides "dinner". "Wayne" did say Dean was marked and he was "theirs". I doubt "Wayne" was the only "Pack Leader" operating on earth.
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It would be interesting to see how he became powerful, but my guess is through treachery, as he is the 'King' of double crossing.

I did want to add that my last post was in NO way reprimanding anyone for their opinion, or for voicing it, but rather stating my own, and where I stand in it. I hope no one took offence to that, or thought it was directed at them.
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don't know how to quote but i'm replying to tammitam mostly
ok in realise i was pretty mean to Dean in that review i don't mean to bash him and i definitely don't hate him! I love Dean really, i just went a bit crazy about that episode. It's like there's so much angst around Sam and even in him but he just can't feel it and it's like AHHHH! I do understand this must be so hard for Dean but I do feel he's being a bit mean to Sam.
sorry if it seemed like i was bashing him, wasn't intended that way! just a bit of vented annoyance
Ad Crowley... i just think that like Ruby he's a demon who is going to think of himself first. He never said he was a good guy nor that he liked Sam, he was just briefly on their side against Lucifer. still, i used to kinda like him. Sam near the end of season 5 to Bobby-did you kiss him? hahaha i laughed for ages at that, don't know why
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Oh I don't want to change anyone's opinions, and the bashing comment was more at myself, that it wasn't what I wanted to do.

I try to remain neutral, even if I definitely lean toward Sam. I can empathize with Dean's reactions, I guess that is why I can't hate him. Do I always agree? No. But I can empathize.

As for Crowley, I LOVE him as a villian, nearly as much as I liked Meg. Even if Sam and Dean gave him what he wanted, I doubt he'd give Sam his soul ... after all, he didn't return Bobby's ... just told him he had 10 years.

So I think the boys are screwed. I just can't wait for some hell repurcussions ... I just hope it comes when Sam can actually feel. I hope he breaks bad.
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