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How would you rate “Mommy Dearest”?
Awesome! 3 (60%)
Pretty good 2 (40%)
It was okay 0 (0%)
Meh 0 (0%)
Parts were okay, but it could have better 0 (0%)
Didn’t like it 0 (0%)
Hated it… this episode should be salted and burned! 0 (0%)
Total Votes: 5
Episode 6.19 “Mommy Dearest”; Episode discussion and rating poll
Topic Started: Apr 29 2011, 10:54 AM (234 Views)
Scifidiva
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You're Invited Too, Grumpy!
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Episode 6.19 “Mommy Dearest”

SAM AND DEAN MEET EVE --- Sam (Jared Padalecki), Dean (Jensen Ackles), Bobby (Jim Beaver) and Castiel (Misha Collins) track Eve (guest star Julia Maxwell) to a small town in Oregon. The guys discover the townspeople have been converted to demons, but surprisingly, they all appear to be dying. When they finally do meet Eve, she decides to torture the brothers by bringing back their mother, Mary Winchester (guest star Samantha Smith), as a demon.

John Showalter directed the episode written by Adam Glass

I wonder if SPN will get a post-renewal announcement “ratings bump” like Fringe did after both shows’ ratings lows last Friday.

:rah Enjoy the episode and please rate and discuss!
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tammitam
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Honestly, one of the best shows in a LONG, LONG time!

"Starships!" That still cracks me up.....

As a side note: :rah Crowley is alive!!!

Oh I so bet Castiel had something to do with Sam coming back soulless!!
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Irishgirl
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Awesome eppie! I loved it. The scene where Dean and Sam are driving the boys to their uncle's house was sweet. I can picture wee!Sam and wee!Dean rding like that as kids.
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tammitam
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I think they both thought of that too!!! It was sweet.
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Anna
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Yeah, I thought of Sam and Dean with those two kids too...horrible what happened to them, i was basically screaming at my screen, i hate it when it's to children...
THis was awesome though. I'd kill to find out what's going on with Castiel and Crowley...what is with Castiel and people's souls? Someone said he might be addicted to it and that would be kind of weak since it already happened to Sam sort of, but it kinda looks like that's what's happening...
And can Eve really be dead? They've changed bad guy so many times this season...I don't think she's gone though...Eve becoming Mary was unbelievable, she picked the one person who would torture Sam and Dean most. Made me think of Lucifer coming to Sam as Jess, actually...
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I voted “Pretty Good” rather than “Awesome”; there were a few things I disliked enough to not give the episode the top rating.

I’ll get those out the way first. I hated, hated, hated the really obvious and really crude (language-wise) slashy Dean/Cas stuff; the show is plucking at my last nerve with Dean’s very literal potty mouth in regards to the way he talks to Castiel. I hate the way for the second half of the season the boys and Bobby call on Cassy-Sue to do nearly all the “heavy lifting” even though he’s in the middle of civil war (Time Travel, locating Eve [which he couldn’t do, thankfully], and locating a friendly monster to get inside info [what, the boys and Bobby have forgotten how to read “signs” or a map – Bobby had little trouble tracking the “Monster Mash” to Ohio]). I dislike the fact that in many episodes with Castiel in them Bobby, Dean and Sam lose IQ points so that Castiel can look smarter. I hope S7 has no angels in it. Anti-Castiel rant over.

The second major thing I disliked about the episode was although Dean’s imbibing a shot of Phoenix ash and whiskey and then goading Mary/Eve to “bite me” was a great tactic 1) I don’t when he dosed himself and 2) what if Mary/Eve didn’t take Dean’s bait and decided to “turn” Bobby or Sam instead just to piss Dean off? All major Supernatural Baddies should know by now that the Winchesters rarely are without a “Plan B”.

Most everything else I liked about the episode, especially Dean’s dubbing the hybrids “Jefferson Starships” and of course the car scene with mini SamnDean even though their primary sentiment – that of saving people and returning them to their families went sideways.

I liked the Eve had only stepped in because her children were being messed with by Crowley (I doubt she knows of Castiel’s involvement – maybe he’s able to block her somehow) and was otherwise happy with the status quo – her children turned a few of us, Hunters killed of them and the natural order was maintained. (Nevertheless I think the Winchesters stopping the apocalypse and violating the natural order a time or three caused the monsters to act differently). So her motives weren’t like demons who caused chaos and pain for its own pleasure, nor like the so called “good” supernatural entities (angels) who wanted to accelerate “destiny” because they were bored or tired of waiting for their paradise on earth since Dad had left.

I just knew Crowley and Castiel were working together but I don’t know when the partnership started. Rachel seemed to imply that it was more recent (post CH) though I still think the two have something to do with Sam’s soullessness now I’m back to iffy on how much they were involved. Crowley took credit but Castiel seemed legitimately surprised in 6.07 to find out that Sam had no soul. I was assuming that Crowley & Cas combined their mojo to get “Sam” out but Cas was ashamed because he worked with a demon to achieve it and he attributed Sam’s worrisome behavior to being in the Cage with two PO’d archs. It’s interesting that Crowley – at the end – referred to killing the “turned” brothers as cleaning up another one of Castiel’s messes. I wonder what other “mess” Crowley has covered or cleaned up for Castiel.

The music choices, Hot Chocalate’s “You Sexy Thing” and Jefferson Starship's “Miracles” bookended the whole episode very well. Eve, sitting on a stool, with probably a Virgin Strawberry Daiquiri or Bloody Mary in her hand while her beta test subjects go ape around her, an idulgent smile on her face and Castiel, standing alone in the diner over Eve’s dead body and surrounded by the “Jefferson Starships” he had killed then enters Crowley. I wonder if it’s a strange coincidence that both songs include similar lyrics about believing in miracles.

It's fairly clear to me that the release of Eve as the "new big bad" was just a diversion and whatever Crowley and Castiel are up to is the true evil the Winchesters and Bobby are confronting this season. Although they may have radically different motives it is still an "unholy alliance" that is severely affecting the "Natural Order".
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