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18" Deadlift help; 18" Deadlift help
Topic Started: Jul 21 2005, 10:56 PM (182 Views)
WhiteDevil55

I dont get on forums too often and ask for help, but at the same time I've been guilty of giving advice. My deadlift is dead. It has completly stalled for the past year. Ive tried different set/rep, footplacement, attention to form. And strange enough my son has been training with me and when I correct him on things that are wrong hes told me that hes doing the same thing he sees me doing. But still my 18" hasent increased. My last contest I pulled 605 and missed 625. What really got me thinking was another competator in my weight class pulled in the mid to upper 600's but last year he pulled under 500. So Im starting to wonder if its form, bodymechanics, or just not enough work being put in.

Current workout is:

Deadlifts off floor 405 as many reps in 60seconds
379 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
309 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
60second break in between each set.
Last work out I hit 10 reps each set.

18" Deadlifts 3 sets of 3
2 second pause on each rep
Hitting 522 for sets.

Farmers Deadlifts 3 sets of 3
farmers are 240 each
the handles are mid calf height.


A pretty basic stripped down workout. I workout in my basement and the only
other back realted things I have is a hyperextention which I use for warm-ups
and a pulldown/low row machine.

My deadlift has killed me in contests the past two years so any help or ideas
are welcomed.


Thanks in advance...
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spacemountain2000
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Now you're boring us
By no means am I an expert, but this

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Deadlifts off floor 405 as many reps in 60seconds
379 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
309 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
60second break in between each set.
Last work out I hit 10 reps each set.


Seems to be more of a conditioning workout than a strength building one to me.

I'd shoot for more sets and lower reps-nothing higher than a triple.

Good luck on improving your pull.
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sqeezemasterflash
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Now you're boring us
You might want to try basic periodization for awhile. They've got a good simple calculator at Jackal's Gym

http://www.jackalsgym.com/programs/basic_8wk.html

Throw in power cleans, RDL's, sugs, and rows for assistance work. Keep squatting heavy. Your body probably just needs a change. Make sure you're eating enough too. The deadlift takes too much out of you to skimp on food.

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McLifter
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I think that the Squeezemaster has hit the nail on the head. You are not training to increase your Max, you are training for endurance and strength. Check out the programs on Jackals website. You can punch in your numbers and calculate out an entire workout cycle. It's great! Also, as the Squeezster suggested work on PowerCleans, RDLs, surgs and try pulling off of Blocks for awhile too.

Good Luck

McLifter :wiley
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spacemountain2000
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Now you're boring us
And then there's the WSB 'don't deadlift to increase your deadlift' idea. Increase your deadlift by increasing your squat.

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WhiteDevil55

Thanks for the tips.. and you pretty much comfirmed what I believed
the problem was. We started that deadlift workout to increase endurance
and for tire work during the winter months when we cant flip outside which
it worked great for, also going to a pudgy 230 to a less pudgy 230 was nice
benefit too.

Thanks again...
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NickGiammarresi
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even though i have a contest in about 8 weeks ill hit the dead cycle 2 times week along with my other training but only for pulling off the rack. since thats my weakest point of the lift.
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