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| MaxPower | Aug 18 2005, 10:55 PM Post #1 |
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The government is thinking about restricting certain cold and allergy meds that contain ingredients that can be used to make meth. So i other words, you'll need a prescription to get over the counter common cold and allergy medications. So every fucking time you get sick or your allergies flare up your going to have to go see a fucking doctor. I can understand they want to crack down on meth but this is just stupid idiotic bullshit overregulation. |
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| Jamie | Aug 19 2005, 12:36 AM Post #2 |
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Just be glad you don't need a prescription for meth, Trev! ;) |
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| BarrelLifter | Aug 19 2005, 12:50 AM Post #3 |
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Remember the shortage of docs they were bitching about? Well here's step 1 of their moneymaking scheme! |
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| Brad Prov | Aug 19 2005, 12:55 AM Post #4 |
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Is that your serious opinion?
:huh: That regulation is meant to keep the ingredients out of the hands of drug peddlers who might be selling that shit to your nieces and nephews (I'm assuming you don't have children) It worked in Oklaholma (or Idaho, can't remember). Reduced the meth use there by 80% in two years. If you've ever seen what that shit does to familes,(I have) 80% is a the prevention of a lot of suffering. Educate yourself a little on the subject and then give me a rebutal. --- |
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| Frozenkilt | Aug 19 2005, 01:13 AM Post #5 |
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Online douche. GOLD! I need more Gold
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As long as I can still get my sweet, sweet ibuprofin getting prescriptions for other stuff doesn't sound like much of a problem to me unless you rush for the pharmacy every time you get a sniffle. And if it cuts down on meth, I'm 100% for it. That shit is crystal death and it's getting peddled around fucking elementary schools now for fuck sakes. - Sean |
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| MaxPower | Aug 19 2005, 01:16 AM Post #6 |
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Hate to break it to you but there is more then one way to get the stuff they need to make that crap (sorry i don't know what it is they are using and i have no intention of finding out). And as a person that lives in a area with a doctor shortage and don't have a family doctor currently i can't (and many others are in the same boat as me, more then there are meth users) go to a doctor everytime i need some cough medicine and sitting in a hospital for 5 or 6 hours is not to appealing. I'll try working on that education later. |
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| Jamie | Aug 19 2005, 04:31 AM Post #7 |
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I agree, really. As someone who never uses any medication, including ibuprofen, etc, I'm fine with them doing this. The drug problem in my area is insane, and I live in a rural area. Just to shed some light on the subject, crystal meth/ecstasy has become almost as popular as marijuana in the Kelowna area now. |
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| Caber McJock | Aug 19 2005, 02:29 PM Post #8 |
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I agree
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Well of course you are, it doesn't affect you at all. The main ingredient of concern is psuedoephedrine, pretty common in almost all OTC cold meds, and before last year (year before?) the kind of thing that would get an olympic athlete busted for using Sudafed. The problems I have with the regulating of this kind of shit are as follows: 1. Trev is right about a shortage of doctors. It is an absolute bitch to try and get an appointment with my doc, and as a walk in your looking at 3 hours- that's in a clinic, not a hospital emergency room. 2. The stuff is going to cost more. Pharmacies will be the ones benefitting from this the most, as now you'll have a dispensing fee as well. 3. This will only encourage meth dealers to steal the shit- and if you've ever dealt with a meth junkie, they are usually more than happy to fuck over a store/home/person whatever. 4. It sets a precedent to regualte MORE shit. Think ibuprofen is untouchable? Guess which is one of the highest selling drugs around? Guess which drug Pharmacists have tried to get put behind the counter, and are still working on? And it's all about $. Get ready to start calling your doctor for Advil. All that said, meth is evil. I would prefer we started crucifying meth dealers in the street before I have to get a script for Tylenol Cold though, as ever since my kids started going to school someone in my family is ALWAYS sick. |
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| Brad Prov | Aug 19 2005, 03:54 PM Post #9 |
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In the states they had the laws set up that you had to give ID to purchase cold stuff and eventually they had a database with which to see who is buying it, ect and lists of people that bought too much. Those people then had to go to doctors. The plan they are proposing here in Sask. is pretty much the same thing. As a someone wh gets a crippling sinus headache at least once a month, I use as much pseudoephedrine as the next person, but I'm willing to make the sacrifice. One stat I read was that 50% of the states in the US consider meth to be their #1 crime problem for the last year. This is the tip of the iceberg guys. ----- |
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| Jesse Snadden | Aug 19 2005, 03:56 PM Post #10 |
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This will not cut the circulation of meth at all. There is a thing called the black market, and it doesn't matter what is illegal, it can still be found and found very easily. I'm sorry if someone in your family or a close friend was affected by meth Brad, but in my opinion, we and we alone are responsible for what we consume. We all make mistakes in our lives, I know I consumed some weird things when I was in high school but I really don't want to wait 6 hours in a waiting room to get a pack of sudafed. The price would skyrocket too. Not only that, but then I have to spend sick leave from work to wait at the doc's office as well. I don't think it's fair that I should have to go through that because of a few irresponsible individuals. Whats gonna happen is that people are gonna start buying their decongestants from the black market (cheaper and easier to get), then it's always a gamble what the fuck your sticking down your throat. This is just sticking more money in the black market's pockets. They will sell them cheaper than you'd get them with a prescription and everyone will buy them there. Do you honestly think making pseudoephedrine a prescription drug in one state will prevent someone from driving a few hours and buy it from another state ? An 80% reduction in Oklaholma alone seems far fetched. Anyhow, this is just my opinion. Don't hate me for it. Someone remarked how this is a plan to give doctors more money, you have to wonder... For example, the whole LDL and HDL cholesterol thing. I've read some studies that show proof that having a high LDL cholesterol may not be a bad thing. Roughly 50% of people who have heart attacks have what the medical community would consider normal cholesterol and blood pressure. That a high LDL cholesterol might be good for combating infections and a drastic drop of LDL can cause a drastic spike in heart attacks. Many doctors have stock invested in the the cholesterol lowering drugs such as statins. So they push the usage of these drugs and keep lowering what a "normal" cholesterol level should be, in turn it improves their wealth. These drugs have proven to be carcinogenic and extremely harmfull to the liver. This world is way more fucked up than we think. |
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| Jesse Snadden | Aug 19 2005, 03:58 PM Post #11 |
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I think Aspirin and Ibuprofen kill on average 7000 people per year in the USA alone. Smoking is somewhere like 400,000 in north america per year. The thing is, the government makes money of cigarettes by taxing it. The medical community probably has a lot of stock invested in aspirin and ibuprofen related drugs. |
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| Caber McJock | Aug 19 2005, 07:19 PM Post #12 |
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I agree
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Showing ID for that stuff I have no problem with. I would prefer to not have to get a prescription though. |
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