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Understanding HG events and numbers; from the old board
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Topic Started: May 9 2006, 04:50 AM (93 Views)
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spacemountain2000
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May 9 2006, 04:50 AM
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Now you're boring us
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Frozenkilt sayeth:
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Many of our powerlifting/strongman types have made it clear that although they will be the first to go "Woo!" when we mention throwing PRs, they have no fucking clue what the numbers mean.
Open Stone Background - Think shotput with a rock. You can move your feet all you want within a 7.5'x4.5' area. I'll use a 16# rock for distance reference:
25' - All shoulder throw. You don't know where your legs are. Or if they're even attached. 30' - You've got some kind of shuffle going on, but not enough leg drive. 35' - Starting to truly get it, but the angle's probably low. Very decent Amateur B mark. 40' - A pretty standard Amateur A mark. Means you've probably had no official training with shotputting, but you've watched enough video to fake it. 45' - You've got it going on. High Am A or even a low pro. 50+ - Probably another one of those fucking NCAA pricks with 10 years of coaching backing him up. 60+ - Congrats. You're Brian Oldfield.
Scottish Hammer Precursor to the olympic hammer. Solid handle. 50" long. Feet can't move. Release behind you. Spikes are often put onto boots to allow more leaning back or at least more traction on the ground. I'll use the 16# version as reference. For the heavy (22#) hammer, just subtract 20'.
70' - Winds feel like an unfolding lawn chair. You're just starting, have poor shoulder flexibility or just hate this event. 80' - Winds are smoother, but hard to put full strength into throw because of mis-timed power position or bent arms. 90' - Still no spikes on your feet, but now you have a decent release angle. Probably still bending your arms on the winds, but the release is sweet. This will win you most Am B contests. 100' - You figured out how to speed it up and now you look like a hammer thrower. 50/50 on the spikes. 110' - More and more competitive here. High Amateur A number. 120' - You probably like the hammer now and consider it the best event ever. 130'+ - You can throw hammer anywhere and with anyone and noone laughs. 150+ - I think there are 4 of you.
28# WFD 28# (2 stone) at the end of a chain. 18" long, total implement. What the hell...it's only 28#, right? 4.5'x9' area to throw in. How hard can it be...
35' - You just started and moving your feet without planting your heels pains you mentally. Single spin stuff. 40' - You took your single spin and made it smooth. Now you just need to make it fast. 50' - You learned two spins and still miss your power position from time to time, but it's getting cleaner. High Am B number. 60' - You know how to throw this thing. Now it's a matter of playing with angles, adding more speed and getting more leg drive. You also consider just getting fatter to help with the momentum. 70' - High Am A number/low pro. You were probably a discus thrower or had someone that knew how to throw this thing teach you. 80'+ - People watch video of you doing this to learn how to do it themselves.
56# WFD Everyone's macho until they do this event. 56# is not heavy. 56# at the end of your arms while you are spinning is a fucking truck. Same rules and length as the 28.
20' - You probably stayed on your feet and looked like you knew what you were doing. 25' - A good toss. Kind of a boundary between Amateur B and Amateur A status. 30' - A very good toss. Respectable enough anywhere. 35' - People will sometimes come up to you and ask you how you did that. 40'+ - You can get drunk and talk about how good you are at that event and noone will say shit to you.
Take the number, multiply by 10 and compare it to bench poundage. Same thing.
56# Weight Over Bar Seems simple enough. Power snatch 56# (4 stone) with one hand and release it over a bar.
10' - You finally settled most of your timing issues. An average Am B mark. 11' - You've got some explosiveness but still have issues with throwing straight up and straight down again. You're in the hunt as an Am B. 12' - Kind of the Am A/Am B crossover point. Your height may be hindering you here. 13' - A good mark. Nothing to be ashamed of here. 14' - A very good mark and you definitely have some wheels under you. 15' - You can play anywhere against anyone. 16' - You're elite at this event and the weight literally whips out of your hand. 17'+ - You're a goddamn freak who makes this event look way too easy. You probably came in at 15.
Please note that all descriptions of height are for the standing version. All descriptions for the spinning version have the description "You are a raging ass-cowboy."
20# Sheaf 15' - They handed you a pitchfork and told you to throw a 20# bag over a bar. You thought they were kidding. 18' - You've seen this thing twice now and it still feels funny. You may say shit like "What is this? The fucking farmer games?" 20' - You only practice this event during competitions, but know enough not to embarass yourself. 24' - You might actually practice, but you don't make it a priority. You consider the event "a nice change of pace". 26' - You're starting to take it seriously now and don't come in until 22'. 28' - A serious contender, regardless of level. 30'+ - You either spin with this thing or you're a monstrously explosive bastard. People close to the event can hear the bag rip when you pull.
There we go, boys and girls. Kind of a benchmark. Jeff, Mike or anyone else floating around can feel free to add their comments.
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MaxPower
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May 9 2006, 05:13 AM
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This still makes me laugh
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Please note that all descriptions of height are for the standing version. All descriptions for the spinning version have the description "You are a raging ass-cowboy."
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BarrelLifter
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May 9 2006, 08:49 AM
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Grey Hair Builds Strength... and looks good too!!
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Yeah, thanks for our yearly Sean rant.
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Frozenkilt
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May 9 2006, 01:29 PM
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Online douche. GOLD! I need more Gold
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I can make it weekly...
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MaxPower
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May 9 2006, 01:33 PM
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How about daily?
:soapbox
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Frozenkilt
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May 9 2006, 01:39 PM
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Online douche. GOLD! I need more Gold
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Maybe, but most of the ranting would be about the other drivers around me.
- Sean
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Caber McJock
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May 9 2006, 02:25 PM
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I agree
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Still a great post that gets referenced on other boards all the time.
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spacemountain2000
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May 9 2006, 03:53 PM
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Now you're boring us
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Open Stone 50+ - Probably another one of those fucking NCAA pricks with 10 years of coaching backing him up. 60+ - Congrats. You're Brian Oldfield.
Scottish Hammer 150+ - I think there are 4 of you.
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MaxPower
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May 9 2006, 04:05 PM
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Personaly i think all the guys that are against the spinning wob are jealous because they can't do it do to them being a spaz and sit around all day massaging themselves saying over and over "I wish i could spin, i wish i could spin"
Either that or they just think its T3h Gh3y.
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