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World Cup anyone?
Topic Started: Jun 7 2006, 04:29 AM (751 Views)
Peter
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Here I am expecting this great clash between Holland and Portugal and what do we get? A stinking whistle after whistle, yellow and red card fest. What a shame, that and the Dutch going out. At least England won and now they have a good chance against decimated Portugal. I'm never rooting for the Dutch again. Go England and Germany.
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Olly Jackson
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I actually thought the standard of football in the game was pretty high, despite the referees best efforts. I jokingly said to Veganlifter after the first yellow card that at least one person would be sent off, little did I know we'd see 4.

The game couldnt have gone much better for an England fan, although it seems Figo will be lucky and escape any further punishment, it all depends what reason the ref gives for the booking he received. If it wasnt for the head 'butt' then he could well be banned too.
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Peter
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With these two countries playing, the standard will always be high. The thing I regret is that we could've had a classic game with the potential to be the best of the tournament. I, too, think that a different referee could've snuffed it out at the beginning instead of just flashing cards and letting it deteriorate. One thing I will never understand is why Van Basten did not play Van Nistelrooy, especially in the second half when the Dutch needed quality finish to their ball possession advantage.
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Olly Jackson
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Van Nistleroy seems to have really fallen out of favour with both club and country. I just dont get it. In front of goal he is just pure class. A real strikers striker. Whilst I know that Kuyt is an impressive talent (well as impressive as you're going to be in the dutch league) leaving a player like Van Nistleroy on the bench for 90 minutes of a game that you lose is the sort of thing that gets managers sacked.

The word is that he's also on his way out of Old Trafford, now I dont know about you, but if I were a Glazer id get rid of Ferguson before an almost irreplaceable striker (I say that because Utd dont have the same pulling power that they used to nor the funds to be spending £30m+ on one player). People seem to forget, in 200 games for Utd, he's scored 150 goals. That record speaks for itself.
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Peter
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What makes it even more puzzling to me is that Van Basten, of all people, should know the value of a player like Van Nistelrooy. In his time Van basten was the scorer that Van Nistelrooy is today. A guy like that can be invisible for 80 min. and still decide a game in a split second. Neither of the Dutch substitutions worked out and they ended up having one of the world's greatest strikers sitting on the bench. It's a shame.
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Peter
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Shame on FIFA and the referee in the Italy vs. Australia match. There's no way this gets called a penalty to favor a smaller team. Every damn tournament to date has featured blatant bad calls with political implications, I guess this year will not be different. Credit to Italy for toughing it out a man down but there's no justice in making the call and sending the Aussies home like that.
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Llamapower
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To help get in the mood for England's inevitable triumph... ;) :P

http://whodoyouthink.com/video.php
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Peter
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Hahahaha.

About the Fance vs. Spain. Is it me me, or was the free kick call that led to the winning goal really dodgy? It could be argued that Puyol fouled Henry, but a yellow card? If a card had to be given, it should've been to Henry for blatant simulation. At least I'm happy for Zidane. All athletes should be lucky enough to get one last triumph before retirement.
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Henry dived.

He does it quite a bit for Arsenal. (Pires is a worse diver though.)
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Olly Jackson
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Henry faked the injury, how much of it I would call a 'dive' im not sure. I think it was a free-kick, but the faking of the injury will do nothing for Henry's reputation, which is actually quite good when it comes to 'fair-play'. He certainly isnt renowned for consistently making too much of injuries or diving. Although, he does of course do it.

I was pretty chuffed with France winning, im by no means a French fan but i'd been telling anyone who'd listen that Spain had zero chance of winning the world cup. Won me a few quid too.....
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Llamapower
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Llamapower
Jun 16 2006, 04:12 PM
If Argentina keep playing the wayt they did today nobody else stands a chance! They were incredible!

Looks like I sucessfully Jinxed the Argies! :lol
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Olly Jackson
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Olly Jackson
Jun 17 2006, 11:16 PM
Argentina certainly played well, but it annoys me that so called experts make such sensational statements as i've seen so far. Yes, they played well, but as Peter says, they wont be allowed to play that well against some of the more solid defences/midfields. You can only play as well as you're allowed to.

Haha, ive been pretty chuffed with my predicitions so far ;) , although I havent got the cash right now to make any money off of them.

Ive won a friend of mine over £200 though, I think the beers are on him :bang
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Peter
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DON'T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA!

Bye bye! And just to add to their lovely reputation they start a sore loser fight. Good riddance.
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How about that foosball? Foos rules!
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Peter
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First Holland, then England, now I'm left with only Germany to root for. I don't care what the critics may say, I really think England deserved to move on.

On another subject, the mentality of Argentinian and Brazilian players and why the former are often disliked as opposed to the latter. Reading players' quotes on FIFA's site, it's striking how virtually every Brazilian simply stated that the French were the better team today and made no excuses. In contrast, some of the Argentines had quotes such as

"They attacked twice and scored a goal but Argentina were the better side."

"I’ve got nothing to say because if you watch the game you’ll see that we were the better team. We showed we’re up there with the best teams in the world, and in my opinion there’s no such a thing as justice in football."

"Although we know we lost, Germany weren’t better than us. They just had more luck in the penalties, that’s all."

"Germany weren't better than us and the game was decided by the smallest of details."

"I really don’t know why we lost. And don’t ask me if I think Germany will win the World Cup or not because the truth is I really couldn’t care less."

No such thing as justice in football? I guess to them justice is fixing a 6:0 win over Peru so they can reach the final (as in 1978), or Maradona's "legendary" handball.
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I feel the same way about Argentina with football. They do seem to dive and cheat more than any other team I have watched, and then they started a fight after losing. Now I read those quotes - it doesn't suprise me.

Jonathan
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very surprised Brazil went out yesterday! To be honest i expected England to go out and their quality of play didn't look like semi-final material.

i think there is a good chance that France will go on to win!

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i`ll try the vaseline in the sock tonight
I`m gutted England went out.
Dont get me wrong as a team they`re a bunch of over paid
under performing knobs.
The manager couldn`t organise a piss up in a brewery &
seemed to lack any real ideas.
No my concern is theyre be no more over time at the pub
so i loose out money wise :P
France beat Brazil at their own game.
Germany will now win the final.
:respect
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Peter
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Italy in the final, now we'll never hear the end of it. One more reason to remember the gift they got from the referee against Australia. Go France!
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Peter
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Congrats to Italy, but boy am I pissed. Don't let anyone tell you Zidane's dismissal was the decisive factor they made it sound. Buffon's save on Zidane's header in extra time won Italy the title, pure and simple.

Saturday's game was a good example of how the game should be played. There was a great symbolic moment during the festivities after the game. As Khan was walking away, a few of Germany's young players passed him in their celebration and sort of waved at him. A great player leaving the game being seen off by the new generation.
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Olly Jackson
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Jul 10 2006, 02:29 AM
Saturday's game was a good example of how the game should be played.

Except for the continuous diving on display from Portugal and in particular Portugal. Its funny, both the clubs and national team are famous for it, yet NOTHING is ever done about it. Its killing my love of football, and I really love football.

Congrats to Italy, although im not a fan of how they play football, the continuous racism displayed in their league and if true, the alleged corruption. They certainly put the penalties away in style, and as you rightly say Peter, they owe Buffon, a lot.

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Peter
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Its killing my love of football, and I really love football.


Same here. I've stopped following international club play because of the soap opera it has become and diving and simulation are big part of it.
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Peter

I don't follow soccer that closely and didn't watch the final but saw Zidane's head butt on the Italian player. Is Zidane known for that sort of thing? I know he is retiring after the World Cup and that's a bad way to go out.
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Olly Jackson
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Zidane hasnt been the model pro in the Lineker sense, but over a very long, publicly focused career his indiscretions are none worse than lots of pro's. We seem to remember when a Zidane/Beckham like figure lashes out more than a normal run of the mill player.

I'm sure there is more to this than Materazzi is letting on, Zidanes reaction was outrageous but i'm sure it was heavily provoked.
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Peter
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I'm of the same opinion as Olly. Last thing one would associate with Zidane is this type of thing. Sure, it wasn't the smartest thing to do but we don't know both sides of the story. There already are all kinds of wild rumours circulating, including one according to which Zidane was called a terrorist (referring to his Arabic background). One thing's for sure, it was a sad way to finish a storied career, but I suspect with time it will be forgotten and only his genius as a player will be remembered. He was that good.
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