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Stupid Heatwave
Topic Started: Aug 2 2006, 03:00 AM (201 Views)
MaxPower
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I just love these days with over 40 degree humidexes. [/sarcasm]

Makes breathing so nice and easy [/more sarcasm]

Oh, and the sticky sweaty dirty feeling, just AW350M3! [/still more sarcasm]

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Peter
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It is really, really bad, isn't it? I think I have a total of 10 min. spent outdoors today and still can't cool off.
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MaxPower
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It would be as bad if the heat didn't aggrivate my kidney.


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Jesse Snadden
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Global warming certainly is no joke eh ?
Now if only the goddamn oil industry could colapse and we could all go to electric cars like we should be already. Oh yeah, there would be less war too. It was like 50 with the humidex yesterday. How is a 300+lbs dude supposed to live in that condition ?
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Hey Jesse, as a matter of interest, what do you think produces the electricity to charge an electric car? Rainbows and unicorn farts? :D

And it's been fucking rainy all week here. God just hates eastern Canada is all. :P

- Sean
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It's pissing rain right now. It's still hotter and stickier than a diseased streetwalker's nether regions.
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Jesse Snadden
Aug 2 2006, 12:50 PM
Global warming certainly is no joke eh ?
It was like 50 with the humidex yesterday. How is a 300+lbs dude supposed to live in that condition ?

I hear you Jesse, I`m also 300lbs and heres 35C in SHADE, 45C in sun...relative humidity 80% WTF!!!!!!


About global warming- 10years ago there would be no way to have 45C here!
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Hey Jesse, as a matter of interest, what do you think produces the electricity to charge an electric car? Rainbows and unicorn farts?


Hydro mofo. :azz

And dude, there would be so much less emissions from electric cars it's insane, they only got scrapped because the oil industry knows, they still have a solid 30-40 years of petrole left on this planet and that means a fat wad of cash is still attainable for them and the governments profit from taxing the shit out of it too.
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Hate to break it to you, man but hydro currently produces maybe MAYBE 10-15% of North American power requirements. The Grand Coulee Dam is the 3rd largest hydro-electric producing plant on the planet and it produces about 6800 MW. For reference, Alberta alone burns around 7500 and we only have maybe 3 or 4 million people in province. Compare that with southern Ontario and you can kind of get the picture. Nuclear and hydro plants are a good way to go, but they aren't easy or cheap to produce and a lot of the equipment required for the turbines are currently on 5-10 year waiting lists.

As for electric cars, they haven't been scrapped they just aren't that efficient. The hybrids are better and there are some commercially available. Do YOU own one? Do you turn off your computer when you're done with it or just let it run and idle? Do you ride your bike everywhere reasonably close or drive?

Most people, I've found are great about the "Think Globally" end of things but truly lack on the "Act Locally" part of the deal. There's a lot of little things you can do to help cut down on the amount of electricity and energy in general that's burned in a day but unless EVERYONE does it, the impact is negligible. But I do believe that unless you are doing everything in your power to reduce the amount of gas and energy you are personally burning, you probably shouldn't go off about how the "Military-Industrial Complex" or anything else is controlling our lives.

It's easy to get into the goverment conspiracy end of things but the simple facts of the matter is that the entirety of Western civilization was built around the combustion engine and noone is willing to halt progress long enough to switch tracks.

My $.02 on it.

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Jesse Snadden
Aug 2 2006, 11:50 AM
How is a 300+lbs dude supposed to live in that condition ?

Slowly.
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Olly Jackson
Aug 2 2006, 03:28 PM
Jesse Snadden
Aug 2 2006, 11:50 AM
How is a 300+lbs dude supposed to live in that condition ?


Slowly.

Haha!!!
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Jesse Snadden
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I was kidding about the Hydro Sean.

My point is that cars that do not have any emmisions would definatly reduce this global warming issue. I know you live in Alberta so your going to defend the oil industry to the end. Until we have a cleaner alternative, we need to get to work. Now there are a shitload of single drivers (the vast majority of them) out there that should be taking the bus, but I drive with another 1-2 passengers dpending on the day. So it's cheaper for me to pay parking then to buy 2 bus passes. And where I live, there isn't anything reasonably close but a grocery store and I don't see myself carrying my 300$ weekly grocery bill on a bicycle.

There is talk of hydrogen powered cars but I've read how disastrous that could be to have too much hydrogen emissions in the air.
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I'm not defending the oil industry. I'm pointing out the weaknesses of the electricity industry. I don't know enough about oil. I know lots about electricity. How's it's produced, transmitted and distributed.

There are no emissions from hydrogen burning. Just water and energy. It's just dangerous to handle hydrogen and car accidents would get a lot more spectacular. There are lots of other routes to go and you are right on one thing: the companies involved in auto-making and the like have to have a reason to research this stuff more. If it's not going to make them profits, they arent going to shove any cash into R&D.

Ford's taken some huge hits right now due to the price of gas. Other companies aren't far behind. People aren't buying bigger vehicles as much as they were 5 years ago. Pretty soon the price of gas will force alternative methods. The gas companies are currently shooting themselves in the foot but they're too short-sighted to realize that.

That's actually a bit of a blessing. The sheer price of the crap is going to become prohibitive to do anything without some planning.

The biggest problem with all alternative energies besides nuclear is the "need on demand" portion of it. You can't reasonably store energy, so you have to be able to increase and decrease how much you're producing based on the load. Most "green" energy is dependant on the environment, not the load. Not necessarily a real plus.

Getting back to the original comment about global warming, I do actually think it's occurring. The weather patterns are messed up over the entire planet. Of course, there are other scientists that just explain it as part of a typical cycle the planet goes through and they might be right.

Personally, I think the earth is just reacting to everything we've done to it in the past century and trying to clean itself up. And if we happen to be in the way when one of the vacuums (hurricanes) comes through, well I don't think the planet is necessarily going to be too worried about what's happening there.

- Sean

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Recently, there have also been some concerns over possible problems related to hydrogen gas leakage, (this has been pointed out in a paper published in Science magazine by a group of Caltech scientists). Molecular hydrogen leaks slowly from most containment vessels. It has been hypothesized that if significant amounts of hydrogen gas (H2) escape, hydrogen gas may, due to ultraviolet radiation, form free radicals (H) in the stratosphere. These free radicals would then be able to act as catalysts for ozone depletion. A large enough increase in stratospheric hydrogen from leaked H2 could exacerbate the depletion process. However, the effect of these leakage problems may not be significant. The amount of hydrogen that leaks today is much lower (by a factor of 10-100) than the estimated 10%-20% figure conjectured by some researchers; in Germany, for example, the leakage rate is only 0.1% (less than the natural gas leak rate of 0.7%). At most, such leakage would likely be no more than 1-2% even with widespread hydrogen use, using present technology. Additionally, present estimates indicate that it would take at least 50 years for a mature hydrogen economy to develop, and new technology developed in this period could further reduce the leakage rate.


Hydrogen leakage. We don't know what effect hydrogen would have on the atmosphere.

As Humans, we are probably fucked no matter what.
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We'd have to have a lot more leakage before I was worried about that. But I am pretty happy to note that shy of a meteor landing in western Canada, pretty much most natural disasters will affect this area of the country the least ;)

- Sean
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MaxPower
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Meteor craters are great, we built a city on the side of one, and stuck all the french at the bottom of it.


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Canada actually has a heatwave? :azz

Just joking. Even Texas is cooler than here (Wisconsin) right now. There has been a couple straight days of Heat Advisory warnings since last Monday. Can't even cut the grass without it burning up in front of you, lol. Weirdest weather I have ever seen here.

But nothing compares to the heatwave of 95 in NJ/NY. That was Hell on earth.

Daryl
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Jesse Snadden
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Dude, I've had more than one person say the heat is worse in Canada than in Texas because of the intense humidity. Makes it feel a lot hotter than it is.
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I can't find the article, but I read about someone who took his Prius, added 2 dozen batteries, and now it gets 300 miles per gallon. It charges at night and costs about $0.30 US per day in electricity. I could live with that.

Global warming may be real, there is plenty of evidence either way. The massive increase in hurricanes seems to be part of a trend, and glacial core samples show that during various periods of history the planet was a hell of alot hotter than it is now. Of course, those samples aren't accurate enough to tell how quickly things heated and cooled, so we can't compare it with what's happening now to find out if it's abnormal.

As George Carlin once said in regards to the environmental movement - "There's no need to save the planet. The planet is fine. The people are fucked"
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GrantB
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Shit. My power's been off for an hour, and apparently there's a tornado warning now.
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MaxPower
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That sucks.

Actually cooled down alot in the last couple hours, already down to 18. :dance1

Now i'm going to have to complain about it getting cold. :azz


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Biggmatt

This heat has been killing me. My training has been shit because of it. That and my electricity bill is through the roof!!!!
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Peter
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I'm not particularly enamored by tree hugging, but there are ways if big oil weren't so hellbent on controlling our lives. And it's not that far fetched at all, just look at what Brazil has done with its ethanol program.
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We've got EA85 here in the states. The problem is that over 2/3 of the pumps for it are in Minnesota, so it's hard to sell the flex-fuel vehicles that can use it.
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