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Frozenkilt
Nov 30 2006, 02:31 PM
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fuck off, LOL. are we in school or something ???


Yes. Now fucking listen to teacher.

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rather have 20 strongmen all happy than one or two unhappy officials.


Lesson the first: If you have unhappy officials then the next year, you have unhappy competitors when the officials decide that the athletes are a pile of ungrateful cunts and they don't feel like putting on another competition.

Athletes are easy to find. Sorry to say it. Promoters are not. It's a fucking thankless job.

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As Tom as said there needs to be a basic set of rules for all the strongman events, that way everyone one knows the score, and know what they need to do. 


Yes, yes and fucking yes. A standardized set of rules would solve all this shit. Look at the fucking mess powerlifting is for a good lesson on why this should be a priority for everyone.

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Athletes should have opinions as they are the ones taking part, esp if they are puting themsleves at risk too.


I already said that. IF THEY ARE AT RISK. If they're just bitching cuz they don't like it or don't see it as "fair", then fuck'em. Changing out a tire flip because the ground is a muddy mess and there's a huge chance of slipping and ending a career is one thing. Bitching about straps is another.

I will say my opinion again:

Does it suck that there's no straps on a SDDL? Fuck yes. That's lame as shit. We want our freak weights!

Is the timing of this announcement suspect? I don't know the people involved, but I'm getting the impression that something ain't quite kosher.

Does it rate this much bitching? Strikes me as a little whinier than a bunch of supposedly macho strongmen should be.

Again, that's just my opinions.

- Sean

Spank me please. LOL
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Frozenkilt
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I don't do requests :peace

- Sean
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Welshdragon
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Sean we can even go down the road of its a safty issue aswell if you like :P

The bicep tendon will be under a lot of stress on 1 arm!

And at the uks Gary taylor was going to have us not wear straps but we decided(the athletes) that we wanted to wear straps so it was changed!
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That's cuz Gary's a sweetheart. I just don't like the precident of athletes deciding what's best.

And yeah, I know the bicep tendon is under tension but considering most guys deadlift over/under anyway, I wouldn't consider that an "extra" danger in truth.

- Sean
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Tom Jones
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You know I've been doing all my deadlift double overhand with straps because I've got a developing bicep problem but you know I don't give a fuck. I'll have to try and learn hook grip if need be.

I've said it already but I don't think theres any bad intention here. I'll be there on the day, I don't care about event order , I don't care if we have to compete stark bollock naked. I don't care if people have prior knowledge or not. For fucks sake lads turn up strong and give it all you have. This is strongman, The sport where you turn up and lift heavy shit. Basic pure and raw.
The viking will compete no matter what. And you know I'm just glad this comp is going on so I'm grateful to everyone who's put in the time to put this on.
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my use of the word ''cunt'' is because you are &
well done tom :respect

BASIC,PURE & RAW i like it mate :up
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Nov 30 2006, 01:41 PM
Steve has just said he new about this 3 weeks ago how long has mr Lewis know about it. Some people have an advantage over others thats all i'm saying. You can ear your training around different rule i personally did all mt 18" deadlift training useing straps.

On another note is there a charity involved in this years British U105kg comp or our the profits if there are any going to PMSA. Nothing wrong with that if they are i was just wondering.

Sorry Cougerman but I've had no unfair advantage. All that I'd done was check the rules with the promoters of the competition as any other competitor could have done. Concidering PMSA only had 6 weeks to put on a national event that would had failed to take place for the second year running i think we should all be grateful for the thankless task that they have taken on so that we can compete in it. OK so they made one minor error in not posting up the rules earlier but they made it clear to anyone who enquired. If it wasn't for PSMA there would be no British under 105's this year to complain about minor details over.
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ANDY OX
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I feel the same Steve,been waiting so long for this comp to actually take place i'll take the rules they set as long as its the same for everyone.We all could of done what Steve did and find out for ourselves ,but we did'nt so more fool us.
I also wanna say that Colin Lewis is a stand up bloke and not the sort of fella to set the comp for his advantage,if he was i'm sure there would be no log press.This is one of the reasons he has not been involved in putting it together or running it on the day as he knows if he did he would be under scrutiny and comments would be made.
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When I first competed I was happy with the way things were. Once I got into it I then asked how long ahead of time the promoter / chief competition (David Horne) had to train on events for the up-coming championships. He would announce about 3-5 months out what we were doing but I though he may well have been training on those events for the rest of the year.

Steve stated that he knew 3 weeks out cos he rang but more than a few didn't know until just 1-2 days ago. That gives Steve an advantage nevermind the guys putting the event on.

No one is ungrateful for the PMSA efforts - esp those like Mike that know the blood and sweat that goes into event promotion. But Tom has tried, via the other site, to get (as I am now involved in with hand strength) a standard set of rules. The common set for Silver Dollar deadlifts is with straps. There will be a great many who have been training for at least 4-8 weeks or more with a view to having a go at this competition. Skin will have been torn, backs strained and blood seeped out in places and such effort makes what feels like an about turn so late in the day (that's the manin gripe) perhaps a little less than it ought to be.

Regarding promoters and refs - it is a two way street. The two mentioned know full well how changes can and are made and will have moaned with the best of the them (we all know how often WSM events have been changed just for the cameras). Any event organised here is by and for strongmen - let both the athetes and refs vote on the day.
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18'' deads without straps are really not a big deal as i said earlier, i even did a session of them (i rarely pull from 18'') to prove my point. Bear in mind i am a rubbish deadlifter and 260kgx1 hook grip was easy and 300kgx1 felt ok with mixed grip. At a push or if it was necessary i reckon i could have done 300kg with the hook grip aswell. While i don't consider these numbers that impressive it just proves that 18'' deads are not a true nightmare if done raw, like i believe they should be. :peace :kara

Good luck in the comp guys. I hope you can all make the best of the rules that have been set. I'll be there to cheer you all on! :respect
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Sam fuck off! - it may make no diffrence to you but to many it does! - not allowing the use of straps would probably knock a 100kg off my 18" deadlift(I am in the extreme end of this scale)!
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It makes no difference to TAT either and he isn't even into his grip like i am.
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Sam you'll note I never said what I could do and how much I can hold and as me and you aren't competing what we can do with and without straps has no relevence.
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cougarman

Ok so maybe i've gone OTT with the bitchen about the straps but I personally think it is a major point it could cost someone i a close comp there title. And as for Colin lewis not putting in a log press it was Mr Anderson the chose the events to stop this very thing from happening but as soon as Mr Anderson hand over control to Pompy thing seem to move in there favour. Hands up i may be reading more into this than there is. I witch case it's simple allow straps i will say sorry and buy a round of drinks for anyone i've upset.

Until then i will be of the opinion this is one step away from cheating. By not playing fair and for the record myself and Steve (Mobster) would run the British if asked.
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Welshdragon
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I agree with you Mike!
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ANDY OX
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Anyway,we are all going there to win but who does everyone think is gonna win if not themselves of coarse,roll up roll up place your bets please,in the red corner weighing in at 105kg.......:P ????????
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Tom Jones
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i will say sorry and buy a round of drinks for anyone i've upset.


I'm a sensitive soul Mike so I think I need a couple of pints of guiness and a packet of biscuits

Andy, I think some of them Scottish lads could be a force to be reckoned with
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ANDY OX
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Yeah i think your right Tom,and this Martin Jones sounds a handfull too.
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cougarman

I think it will be a very close contest i don't think anyone person will dominate. martin the welsh lad is very strong and quick over the ground. tat has come on leaps on bounds, Nick is a dark horse and could do well the no straps will help him he is a grip master. and the scotish lads look strong i think the wininng lift in the scotish 105 comp was 340kg. It will be great to watch if i'm allowed in after all my moaning.

Also so think there are a couple of lads that go by the names Andy and Tom that i hope do well.
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ANDY OX
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Thats a damn good pull.Did'nt hear much about the comp unfortunately.#


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Also so think there are a couple of lads that go by the names Andy and Tom that i hope do well.


Nah ,them old codgers.
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Tom Jones
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Jesus Mike I've got a jeramy beadle hand , one leg, a bad arm mine you at least I don't talk with a cockney accent :P
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If Frank connally(Scotland) is competing he will be pushing for a top place gents - He held his own at the uks with the big boys in Ireland!

Martin - very strong,fit and fast at the moment(go Wales)!

And Steve stanislaus always a threat!

I think thats my top 3!
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cougarman
Nov 30 2006, 10:20 PM
Ok so maybe i've gone OTT with the bitchen about the straps but I personally think it is a major point it could cost someone i a close comp there title. And as for Colin lewis not putting in a log press it was Mr Anderson the chose the events to stop this very thing from happening but as soon as Mr Anderson hand over control to Pompy thing seem to move in there favour. Hands up i may be reading more into this than there is. I witch case it's simple allow straps i will say sorry and buy a round of drinks for anyone i've upset.

Until then i will be of the opinion this is one step away from cheating. By not playing fair and for the record myself and Steve (Mobster) would run the British if asked.

Mike it's cool mate i for one never got offended by your comments i just gave my opinion on the issue like i always do. :peace

See ya at the comp!
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Obviously I'm hoping Steve wins this one. He trains so hard and is an inspiration to our whole training camp training with Steve makes me realise how lazy I can be at times especially (not wanting to rub it in) as he's 15 years my senior. I know he's put in alot of hard work for this one and would be great if he can do the double (being UK's and BSM).
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i`ll try the vaseline in the sock tonight
I will add my bit (worth nothing i know but).
I predict a win for someone who weighs
u105 :azz
I know i`ll be giving 110 % & i personally dont
give a fuck about where i come as long as i give my best.
I fear no one but respect everyone in my class.
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