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| Caber McJock | Apr 17 2007, 06:42 PM Post #26 |
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No. Automatic refers to being able to pull a trigger once and having a gun fire continuosly. Semi-automatic refers to the need to pull the trigger each time to fire the gun. There are no "automatic" HANDGUNS. There are small sub-machineguns that fire automatically, but these are generally military and police issue. With the exception of western style single-action revolvers and single shot antique style handguns, ALL handguns are semi-automatic. Auto-loaders, like the Glock, Colt .45 etc are fed by a magazine. they are often referred to as automatic. Revolvers have a cylinder which rotates each time a round is fired. Either way, by definition, both semi-auto. |
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| Jesse Snadden | Apr 17 2007, 06:48 PM Post #27 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_18 First Paragraph
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| Frozenkilt | Apr 17 2007, 06:58 PM Post #28 |
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Online douche. GOLD! I need more Gold
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Except what is being made available is NOT. Saying that media doesn't affect society is totally blind. It DOES affect dress styles, behaviors toward one another, etc. You've now mentioned parents a number of times. Find out how many families these days have both parents working. How much influence do you think the parents will have when they have less time with their kids than their friends or the TV does? It's one more thing. And you can take basically everything Japan is doing and maybe, maybe half of it would work. It is a completely different society there. For instance, Jesse, do you think your girlfriend would bitch if you went into a brothel and fucked the shit out of a prostitute? Cuz that's a pretty standard practice there, man. Go PM The Jerk over at the P&B and he'll tell you some shit that'll curl your hair. All I'm saying is that the two societies have enough cultural dispairity that what works there wouldn't necessarily work here. - Sean |
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| k2karakoram | Apr 17 2007, 06:58 PM Post #29 |
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So is it true that canada has as high or higher % of its citizens that are armed than the US? Why the US has such a high rate of murder in comparison to most industrialized countries? Fuck I don't know. Its actually kind of a perplexing question if a country like canada has as high or higher % of its citizens that are armed than the US but yet has a much lower murder rate. I don't think it has much to do with differences in media because I am guessing that canadians as wells as other industrialized countries are exposed to the same kind of movies and video games. But let me address the politics of gun control in the US. Gun control at least was a dead issue before this massacre and my guess is that it will still be. Its not only has to do with the constitution but the NRA is strong politically in the US with many allies in the republican party and in conservative media outlets (like talk radio). Politically gun control gets lumped in with social conservative issues to the extent that the phrase "guns, god and gays" is used to describe the social conservative mindset and gun control will automatically get a knee-jerk negative reaction from social conservatives which make up a very very important voting block for the republican party. The democrats have not made gun control an issue because they know it is a losing issue for them. So I guess what I am trying to say is don't expect any new changes in gun laws because of this event in the US. |
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| Frozenkilt | Apr 17 2007, 06:59 PM Post #30 |
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Oh and Jesse...it would appear that the guns in question also had the serial numbers filed off, so I guess he didn't exactly legally buy them either. - Sean |
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| Jamie | Apr 17 2007, 07:01 PM Post #31 |
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Just thought I'd throw this out there: Wikipedia is a poor choice of sources when discussing almost anything. Filled with inaccuracies. I'm not saying either selections are, but it's like arguing using what "you've heard" rather than what "you know". |
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| Frozenkilt | Apr 17 2007, 07:02 PM Post #32 |
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At this point, the only kind of gun control you can have is "Noone can have any guns." Anything less than the unilateral treatment of this will be worse than useless. Not saying that would be a bad idea but it doesn't set up ideal situations. A completely defenseless population leads to severe corruption in leadership, traditionally. - Sean |
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| Caber McJock | Apr 17 2007, 07:10 PM Post #33 |
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I agree
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If either of his guns had been full auto, he would probably have done less damage. Full auto weapons are very difficult to control, and empty very quickly. The fixation on "automatic" weapons is irrelevant. I did not know Glock made a full auto handgun- I haven't owned any guns for some time. Frankly the idea of a full auto pistol is retarded. |
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| MaxPower | Apr 17 2007, 07:16 PM Post #34 |
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Follower of Branigann's Law
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Very much so, the thing is probably so fucking inaccurate and hard to control. |
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| Jesse Snadden | Apr 17 2007, 07:21 PM Post #35 |
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Yet he has a receipt for having legally purchased a Glock.
Your certainly quick to Snap aren't you Sean? As for more Canadian being armed than the US... show me a statistic please... it is possible but it would be hunting rifles. I could easily get a permit and buy a hunting rifle. Sean, would you quit bringing up TV raising children because both parents work as the bane of society. It's grown old. My parents both worked. You know after work, they would pick me up at school, I'd help with whatever chores I might have and they helped me with my homework. We might have even played on the old Nintendo together. I grew up just fine. I'm a total pacifist, I have plenty of talents, I own a new house, new car, I have a beautifull girlfriend who has a great job too... Both of her parents used to work... after they got 6 kids th mother decided to homeschool. Fact is... murder rates, espacially with firearms are really high in the US, whether you check the actual number per year, or per capita... the US is always among the top Countries, sharing places with 3rd world countries. My point with Japan is that they do something better than just about any other country. Did I say we need to live their entire culture? No. Stop being so dramatic. |
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| ballsofstone | Apr 17 2007, 07:36 PM Post #36 |
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do you know any fucking thing about japan, the yakusa every were, they goverment corruption that makes ours look small, the fact they love fetishes, they grab on to any fad in th world and make it a almost a religion and they hate you round eye. |
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| Jesse Snadden | Apr 17 2007, 07:47 PM Post #37 |
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Wow! It sounds like you got the Japs all figured out. That view wasn't stereotypical at all... Oh, I don't have round eyes... |
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| ballsofstone | Apr 17 2007, 07:58 PM Post #38 |
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as a matter of fact I do have them figured out as a couple of my blog pals are english teachers in japan and I get first hand stories. why don't you ask the japanese how they treat their homless or the black buses that cruise around and you do not want to be on the same side of the street, especially if you are a white female |
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| Jesse Snadden | Apr 17 2007, 08:15 PM Post #39 |
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Well I've heard different stories from those I know (actually know, not bloggers) who have visited Japan. For sure there is a culture shock. Yea the Yakuza exists, but so does the mob, the crypts, bloods and Hells Angels in North America... Regardless, this has nothing to do with the points I brought up about Japan, which is why their murder rate is so low compared to the rest of the world. The people continue to use media as a scapegoat to explain what happened, yet they can't explain why it's not as big an issue in the rest of the industrialized world. Everyone jumps the later part of the point. |
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| Jesse Snadden | Apr 17 2007, 08:20 PM Post #40 |
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Interesting Website.... http://www.svrc.net/ShootingsMap.htm |
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| Brad Prov | Apr 17 2007, 08:35 PM Post #41 |
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The Glock 18 is ridiculously innaccurate. What confuses me is how he managed to hit that many people. Human reaction is to pull the trigger until the target falls, which burns ammo. He would have to hit with every shot, or have a bunch of people trapped somewhere. Seems unlikely considering how mant fire exits schools have. ---------------- |
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| thepezox | Apr 17 2007, 09:15 PM Post #42 |
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Japan ain't so shit hot either. It doesn't appear that life is worth shit anywhere. I think it is time to chill, hit the weights, and have a couple of cool ones afterwards on a patio somewhere and not get to upset about this screwed up world we live in. |
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| Jesse Snadden | Apr 19 2007, 07:25 PM Post #43 |
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Ok enough on the gun rhetoric... but .. This caught my attention
So how could someone who was insitutionalized and a known stalker legally purchase a glock? If elimination is out of the question, then perhaps a more responsible approach and serious psychological analyses should be administered before one can purchase a firearm. |
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