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Why are we trying to help this guy?
Topic Started: Apr 19 2007, 04:04 PM (140 Views)
MaxPower
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(CP) - A Canadian human rights activist who has been detained in China for more than a year was sentenced Thursday to life in prison in a decision likely to strain Canada-China relations.

Huseyin Celil, who grew up in China and came to Canada as a refugee in 2001, was sentenced for the two crimes of "separating China and ... organizing, leading and participating in terrorist groups, organizations," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said, according to an Associated Press report.

Liu said the first carried a penalty of life in prison and the deprivation of all political rights, which include free speech and the ability to gather or protest. The second carried a sentence of 10 years.

Celil's wife, reached by the Canadian Press in her Burlington, Ont., home, said Foreign Affairs officials called around 1 a.m. Thursday with news her 38-year-old husband had just been sentenced.

"I said, 'for what?' He spoke about humanity, about human rights," said Kamila Telendibaeva.

"It's not fair and it's not justice to give a life sentence to him."

However, she said she was not surprised because China "does whatever it wants."

Celil, a member of Western China's Muslim Uigur minority, escaped from prison in China in 2000, fleeing to Uzbekistan and Turkey before landing in Canada. He became a Canadian citizen in 2005.

Celil was arrested in Uzbekistan in March 27, 2006 while visiting his wife's relatives.

Telendibaeva said that was the last time she saw or spoke to her husband. Celil was deported to China in June.

Telendibaeva spoke with relatives who were at the courthouse to hear the verdict. The mother of four children said they told her the entire process took about 15 minutes and that Celil appeared to be in good condition. Family members were not allowed to speak with him, she said.

Telendibaeva said she hasn't lost hope that her husband will be released. She said she wants Canada to use its strong relationship with China to urge Celil's release.

"I will not give up. I have worked hard and I will work again to release my husband, to bring him back home," she said, adding her husband should appeal the decision.

A Foreign Affairs spokesman said the department is reviewing the verdict, but refused to give further comment.

"This is a great blow to Mr. Celil and his family members," a spokesperson at the Canadian Embassy in Beijing who spoke to the Associated Press Thursday on condition of anonymity according to protocol.

"Canada remains very concerned that the Chinese government has prevented us from meeting Mr. Celil," the spokesperson said. "We would urge the Chinese authorities to grant embassy officials access to Mr. Celil."

But Liu said the case was "China's internal affair."

"The Canadian side has no right to interfere with the case," he said at a regular briefing. "We hope Canada can take a correct position."

Celil's case has already been a point of contention between Canada and China.

China does not recognize his Canadian citizenship and Ottawa has been aggressively lobbying for his release - a move that has angered Chinese officials.

A senior Chinese official warned the Canadian government criticizing China's human-rights policies could jeopardize Canada-China trade relationships.

The charges against Celil are murky. His family says he is being persecuted because he is a Muslim and a political dissident.

Chinese authorities have long maintained militants among the Uighurs - Turkic-speaking Muslims - are leading a violent Islamic separatist movement in the region and are seeking to set up an independent state of "East Turkistan."

The separatist movement gained momentum following the dissolution of the former Soviet Union and the establishment of several independent and largely Muslim countries in the neighbouring region.

Leave the fucker were he is
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Jesse Snadden
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What did he do? All I got out of that was speaking his mind got him in trouble.
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MaxPower
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It also mentions he tried to recruit for a terrorist group that opperates in China and Krygycistan (sp?)



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Jesse Snadden
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was sentenced for the two crimes of "separating China and ... organizing, leading and participating in terrorist groups, organizations,"


China says that.

China ain't exactly the good guys. A terrorist to the Chinese could be a liberator to another nation (such as Tibet).

IMO, North America will be in conflict with China soon enough... the supply and demand of oil will bottleneck us into it.

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I don't feel that this case is a strike against China. I think it is obvious what a fascist state that China is. Personally, if it says "Made in China" on the tag, I don't buy it just on principle. And that is not easy to do nowadays since everything seems to be made by the big red machine.

What I think is despicable is the fact the Canadian Immigration prides itself on letting in every single peice of shit that is rejected by every other country on the planet, usually for good reason.

But when a hard-working Philipino nanny works an extra night job to try and make ends meet, the RCMP cuff her, jail her and throw her on the first plane off the continent.

And I'm not racist at all, I find it sickening that an engineer from somewhere like Germany or England has a snowballs chance in hell of getting landed immigrant status, but some terrorist-training camel herder from fucking uzbeckistan is given a free ride. And to top it off, we have to spend millions of dollars in a diplomatic effort to free him from the Chinese penal system for something he probably shouldn't have been doing anyway. Makes me sick. In fact, makes me want to emmigrate somedays...
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Jesse Snadden
Apr 19 2007, 01:38 PM
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was sentenced for the two crimes of "separating China and ... organizing, leading and participating in terrorist groups, organizations,"


China says that.

China ain't exactly the good guys. A terrorist to the Chinese could be a liberator to another nation (such as Tibet).

Well it's all a matter of perspective isnt it? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter everywhere in the world.

Think Iranians or Iraqis regard Al Qaeda as terrorists, or refer to them that way? Unlikely.

Io me, the difference has always been whether or not you target civilians. If the answer is yes, yer a fucking scumbag terrorist regardless of the flag you fly.
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thepezox
Apr 19 2007, 02:51 PM


What I think is despicable is the fact the Canadian Immigration prides itself on letting in every single peice of shit that is rejected by every other country on the planet, usually for good reason.



Shit I had a guy who worked for me before who came from Africa, claimed he was a former rebel or something in Nigeria, said he had done all sorts of sick shit. Absolutely no regard for human life at all- his, yours, anyone.

I wasn't sorry to see him leave.
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