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k2karakoram
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The last place on the stones (Magnusson, Siders, Murumets) was given 3 points, regardless of repetition number. The russian and ukrainian representations went to talk with the judges about these.."inconsistencies"... in the criteria, but the judges stood by their decisions, which by the way are convenient to certain parties...


So what was the actual repetition breakdown between Siders,
Murumets and Magnusson on the stones?
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k2karakoram
Mar 2 2008, 03:19 AM
So what was the actual repetition breakdown between Siders,
Murumets and Magnusson on the stones?

Siders, Magnússon and Murumets shared the last place and were given 3 points each.
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Siders, Magnússon and Murumets shared the last place and were given 3 points each.


Ya I understand that but your post seems to imply that they got the
same points even though they had different # of reps. So if that is
what you're implying what I am asking is what were the exact # of
reps between Siders, Magnússon and Murumets if you have that
information.
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Ah, I see. Maybe I did not express myself correctly (english is not my native language).

Siders, Magnússon and Murumets all got 0 reps.

When I wrote "The last place on the stones (Magnusson, Siders, Murumets) was given 3 points, regardless of repetition number", I meant that they still got points despite not making any lifts.
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Latest news you unworthy bastards

Axle
Big Z =7 reps
Misha= 6 reps
Murumets = 5 reps
Siders = 5 reps - Garrick is not 100% on this one
Benni= 4 reps
Pfister 3 reps
Derek = 2 reps

Once again thank you Garrick for texting this through now I'm going back to bed
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I would have thought Siders would have more than that. I guess big
Z decided to not go all out.
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k2karakoram
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from ironmind. The official final standings


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1. Zydrunas Savickas
2. Derek Poundstone
3. Mikhail Koklyaev
4. Andrus Murumets
5. Benedikt Magnusson, Brian Siders (tie)
7. Phil Pfister
8. Oleksandr Pekanov
9. Van Hatfield
10. Vasyl Virastyuk


http://www.ironmind.com/ironcms/morenewsv6.php?id=2351#2351
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from http://www.arnoldclassic.com/h_strongman.asp?sl=1

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Zydrunas Savickas of Lithuania won two events over an international field to capture the 7th Annual Arnold Strongman Classic title. Winner for the sixth year in a row Zydrunas Savickas received a $40,000 check from Gerard Dente of MHP, an Audemars Piquet watch by Robert Ronan and the Louis Cyr trophy and congratulations from Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Overall there were 12 world records set throughout the competition. Savickas set three of them. In the Tire Deadlift he lifted 1,027 lbs. In the Circus Dumbbell he tied with Derek Poundstone for the world record with nine lifts each. In the Manhood Stones he lifted 525 lbs. three times.

Finishing second was Derek Poundstone of America. He received $20,000 from Brian Cavanaugh on behalf of GNC.

The order of the other finishers was:

  •  3rd place: Mikhail Koklyaev of Russia received $15,000 from Steve Blechman of Muscular Development.
  •  4th place: Andrus Murumets, Estonia received $10,000 from Dave Conlon of MuscleTech.
  •  5th place: Tie: Both Brian Siders of West Virginia, Benedikt Magnusson, of Iceland, each received $7,000 from Flex Wheeler of All American EFX and from Bernardo Gonzaga of Amino Vital.
  •  7th place: Phil Pfister, West Virginia, USA, received $5,000 from Rich Gaspari of Gaspari Nutrition.
  •  8th place: Oleksandr Pekanov of the Ukraine received $3,000 from Michael Carrubba of Vitamin Shoppe.
  •  9th place: Van Hatfield of the United States, received $2,000 from Shaun Eckhardt of TwinLab.
  •  10th place: Vasyl Virastyuk of the Ukraine, received $1,000 from Bill Windscheif of Gold’s Gym International.

Note: there is no 6th place winner, the prize Monkey between 5th and 6th place was split evenly.
Posted March 1, 2008
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veganlifter

hey thanks for all the updates, been logging on all the time hitting refresh to get the latest :D Fantastic!
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Tom Jones
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Because of the split in the sport we sometimes forget about some of these men.
You hear colin bryce's commentary on the super series events where he talks about mark and pudz having the strongest backs in the sport, and they are very very strong don't get me wrong, But the Big Z could do some series damage to that claim if he was there.

I know it may never happen but fuck me would I love to see men like Z, Murumets , Misha joining Derek in this years WSM. With Terry coming on leaps and bounds also that would give Mariusz one hell of a fight for that fifth title!

I still recall several years ago watching, in stunned silence, Savickas destroy the squat event at WSM. I can't imagine what he would do to it now! In fact I would also love to see what he would do with any of the WSM pressing events.

Oh and this is not a IFSA vs thread. Any of that crap will be deleted. This is just an expressed wish to see all the men back fighting it out as it should be.
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I dont think we forget about these strongmen, i think people just choose to ignore them.

However i do agree we need everyone competiting at WSM again.

This thread doesnt have to turn into an IFSA v WSM thread, we all know the truth about what would happen if we had one fed, and we all know who is the strongest man in the world.

Who is Pekanov ? is he SS or IFSA ?
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k2karakoram
Mar 2 2008, 04:37 AM
I would have thought Siders would have more than that.

Siders did in fact do 7 reps and tied with Zydrunas for first place on the axle.

(info from Katerina at PLSE)
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I still recall several years ago watching, in stunned silence, Savickas destroy the squat event at WSM. I can't imagine what he would do to it now! In fact I would also love to see what he would do with any of the WSM pressing events.


I don't think he'd be as impressive as you think for the simple fact that the weights would be too light for him :P

They'd need to have 150kg safe presses and barrel squats to 400kgs etc to challenge him. The guys ridiculously powerfull, just awesome. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he's training, would be very inspirational (and scary as hell).

Western Europe and America seems to be starved of the eastern European contests. Managed to see the Lith GP last year and Savikas was cleaning (well it was more of a high pull) a 155kg axle to his chest in one movement and then instantly pressing it overhead. Where others were really struggling Savikas looked like he was warming up :bang :respect :respect
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I don't understand how can Magnússon and Siders tie for 5th place.

According to my calculations and to the results given by Katerina at PLSE:

1. After 5 events: Siders - 24 points; Magnússon - 28 points.

2. On the axle: Siders ties for first place with Z, gets 9.5 points; Benedikt does 4 reps, places 5th, gets 6 points.

3. So: Siders: 24+9.5=33.5 ; Magnússon: 28+6=34.


PS. Pfister had 27 points before the axle; if he had done 4 reps, he would have gotten 5,5 points together with Benedikt and this would explain the equality between Benedikt and Siders; but I think that Pfister did only 3 reps and got 5 points, consequently ending up with 32 points.
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I'm assuming that either Van Hatfield or Pekanov got the same number of reps as benny. There seems to be no news about how they performed in the last event
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Tom Jones
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Yes the last event results are still a bit vague.
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Paul_Amor
Mar 2 2008, 01:09 PM
I'm assuming that either Van Hatfield or Pekanov got the same number of reps as benny. There seems to be no news about how they performed in the last event

I forgot to add: (again from Katerina at PLSE)

Hatfield - 2 reps
Pekanov - 1 rep
Pfister - 3 reps
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Thanks for the updates, Big Z is awesome 6 in a row says it all! Derek Poundstone is also clearly the real deal and I think Marius should be very worried. I'm glad Benni took the Hummer record, as a lot of people had commented on how others had beaten him on that event in the past, but it was obvious that Benni just needed to adapt his technique to the event, as it does not lend itsself to his normal roll the bar method.
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Derek barely missed the 2nd rep on the stone...he had it on the top of the bar, but it rolled back and he was unable to stop it. He lost his form from the excitement...so .. He had 3 in him...just no that day...

Also, the controversy on the time...they forgot to time the first athlete, so it went from there as not timed..Some say Derek did the stone quicker, other Misha.. regardless, Misha would never be able to catch Derek on points.
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I still recall several years ago watching, in stunned silence, Savickas destroy the squat event at WSM. I can't imagine what he would do to it now! In fact I would also love to see what he would do with any of the WSM pressing events.


For me it was not just the squat but the truck pull event in 2003 in
Africa where they used a rail cart. If you remember the event,
instead of using a rope to help project themselves forward they would
grasp onto rails to help project themselves forward. Well in the
process of trying to grasp onto the rails to help project himself
forward, Big Z inadvertently ripped one of the rails off the
track. He was only about 150 KG then.


Well I don't think I can add anymore on Big Z than whats all ready
been said. Instead I would like to say I was really stunned and
blind sided by Poundstone. I was not really aware who is was until
that last 2-3 months. On Maurunde-muscle they had that poll up
predicting who would win and poundstone was listed 2nd. I scoffed
at that. Boy was I wrong for scoffing. He was right up there with
Big Z on the Dumbell, yoke and Stones and beat Big Z on the Timber
Carry even though he was sick with that sore pec and came back
from a very very serious back injury. He also was a relatively light
athlete in comparison to most of the Arnold athletes. Very impressive. He is only 26 and he should just get better and better. Mariuz will have his work
cut out for him big
time.

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hey Garrick

So I assume that Siders took a 3rd try at the Hummer deadlift but
failed correct? If so was his 3rd try the 1062? If so how close did he
get to locking it out?


Oh and for bd64ol, Ya Pekanov is IFSA. He is a huge Ukrainian
dude.
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k2karakoram
Mar 2 2008, 04:54 PM
hey Garrick

So I assume that Siders took a 3rd try at the Hummer deadlift but
failed correct? If so was his 3rd try the 1062? If so how close did he
get to locking it out?


Oh and for bd64ol, Ya Pekanov is IFSA. He is a huge Ukrainian
dude.

should have guessed that he belonged to the ifsa camp.
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Nick McKinless
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Mind boggling lifting from all the athletes especially Zydrunas. I'm glad I am not an up and coming heavyweight because these days a 300-350kg squat and deadlift and a 160-180kg overhead are just the beginning.

Nick
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Chris McCarthy

It's great isn't it!!
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Derek Poundstone - Dumbell

http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=62Zf6KL34EA
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