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TWI YOU SUCK!
Topic Started: May 7 2008, 06:32 PM (664 Views)
stainless

Okay i know i'm getting in early this year but i'm pissed off with this popularity contest tv show already.
Just been told there are only 3 places for Scotland this year.Last time i looked Britain consisted of 4 countries.
3 scots
2 welsh
2 irish
13 english-get a grip.
I am well aware of the vast difference in population but this is having a laugh.
If the other 3 all had one more a piece then England would still have 10-the same as the rest of Britain put together.Surely i can't be the only one that sees this as unfair.
This is sold and promoted as "Britain's" strongest man,all these guys have been training their asses off and deserve a fair crack at the whip.Where's the incentive when the odds are against you right off?
This is in no way intended as being anti English,but it is anti TWI.Plus guys have to bring their own shorts and the prize Monkey is down.What's the matter you greedy bastards,not getting paid enough for your show?i very much doubt it.
Thank god for the uk's.
Rant over.
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BigKen
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I've just heard that aswell Stevie. It's a disgrace at how they treat the athletes and give the slots out unfairly!
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cougarman

TWI don't give a fanny fart who they have as long as they can make a tv show and a profit. They even pick the events to favour there favourite athletes it's all wrong but what can you do if eveyone said that they would not do it they would find some that would.
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Stew

If there are Irish, Scottish or Welsh strongmen that are stronger than the English guys that are going then fair play they should have the places, but if not and the stongest guys in Great Britian are the ones who are going then surely that's what matters.
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Biggmatt

TWI has been doing this for years with WSM. It sucks ass.
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Tom Jones
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Your right it does suck but nothing will change, It's a tv show first and fore most and everything they do revolves around that.

A much fairer system that would give a mix of old and new would simply be the 8 lads who make the final are given the wild cards to the following years comp, EVERYONE else must qualify.
If TWI had any interest or respect in a strongman association they would base the number who qualify from the regions on this associations recommendations
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THE THING

ah well looks like myself and andy will be working harder for next year.
might just have to go to the scottish UK qualifiers then.


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stainless

Stew
May 7 2008, 10:28 PM
If there are Irish, Scottish or Welsh strongmen that are stronger than the English guys that are going then fair play they should have the places, but if not and the stongest guys in Great Britian are the ones who are going then surely that's what matters.

If the final ends up an 8 man English final so be it,but that's for the qualifier to decide.If the other 3 nations are not fairly represented in the qualifing stages then it cannot be accurately called a BRITISH comp.
Lets not forget a Scot,an irishman and welsh man have all won Britain's strongest man.
TWI-(the wankers institute) base their whole show on who they deem to be the most entertaining and who the veiwing public is most familiar with.
If the producers(frustated actors) even showed one tenth of the respect that the athletes have for each other then they might gain some credibility from the sport itself.
However,i share Tom's cynicism,nothing is likely to change.
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shawn
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Still got to remember that "Strongman" or "Strongmen" still is not classed as a "Sport".

Most still think of it a a Xmas gameshow, as mentioned by someone above.



IMO i think "Gladiators" is a TV Gameshow, but others may argue. Do you think they had fair qualifies for the Finals ?

Until it is a deemed a real Sport then IMO fuck all will happen and fuck all will ever change.
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shawn
May 8 2008, 02:02 PM
Still got to remember that "Strongman" or "Strongmen" still is not classed as a "Sport".

Most still think of it a a Xmas gameshow, as mentioned by someone above.



IMO i think "Gladiators" is a TV Gameshow, but others may argue. Do you think they had fair qualifies for the Finals ?

Until it is a deemed a real Sport then IMO fuck all will happen and fuck all will ever change.

that a very good piont Shawn, strongman is not classed as a sport. Its only people who within our sport who think it a sport.
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Neil

I agree that the way TWI selects the athletes for BSM & WSM isn't right, but it's not as if this is the 1st year it's happened.
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Mobster
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So you point out they state the obvious by doing the same... how clever. :duh :P
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terry_hollands
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I understand why you guys are getting pissed off but if you were one of the guys that didn't make it through to BSM because you were in the hardest qualifier. You have to take the bulk of the athletes from where the best guys are! I mean no offence to anyone from Scotland, Wales or Ireland but lets not forget only one non-englishman made the final last year.
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Mobster
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I reminded our group, when this came up briefly yesterday, that based on nothing but population London alone has more people than Scotland. Yet it's been suggested each area puts the same numbers in?? :unsure:
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stainless

To suggest that the same numbers go in is unrealistic and would in itself be unfair given the population difference.
The whole concept of Britain's strongest man was borne out of the best of each country coming together to test their strength.
If you are gonna start making assumtions that all the strongest guys are in England in advance of the comp then you'd be as well just having an England's strongest man and leaving it at that.
You can't just judge last year and say you only had one guy in final therefore you're getting less places this year that's making totally unfair assumptions as to the progression of athletes from the other nations.
It's totally irrelevant that you might consider the 5th place finalist in the Southern qualifer to be stronger than the first place Welsh winner,it's a BRITISH comp and all 4 nations need to be fairly represented.
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terry_hollands
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stainless
May 11 2008, 07:07 PM
To suggest that the same numbers go in is unrealistic and would in itself be unfair given the population difference.
The whole concept of Britain's strongest man was borne out of the best of each country coming together to test their strength.
If you are gonna start making assumtions that all the strongest guys are in England in advance of the comp then you'd be as well just having an England's strongest man and leaving it at that.
You can't just judge last year and say you only had one guy in final therefore you're getting less places this year that's making totally unfair assumptions as to the progression of athletes from the other nations.
It's totally irrelevant that you might consider the 5th place finalist in the Southern qualifer to be stronger than the first place Welsh winner,it's a BRITISH comp and all 4 nations need to be fairly represented.

I understand what you are saying but say the 5th guy from the south of England is better than the 4th from Scotland is that fair on him?? It is supposed to find the strongest guy in the country.

I'm not saying the guys in the other nations haven't improved but I do think that the bulk of the Athletes should come from England being that AT THE MOMENT that is where the stronger guys are.

If all the best guys were up in Scotland I would be all for them getting the majority of the spots!!
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stainless

The current crop of strongest guys are most definately from England,no disputing that.
However,it's all in the title "Britain's" and to say you took on and beat the best in a 4 nations comp i feel those nations need to be a bit more fairly represented than this years selection.
There's really no way of knowing who the strongest guys are by looking at their respective qualifiers due to the disparity in the events and weights.We can't go by journals,videos posted or hearsay so the only fair way i can forsee is to offer a set number of places in advance of the regional qualifiers.I can see the fifth place guy who misses a slot cursing as he watchs a guy get through that he feels he could beat but does this not happen whenever there are qualifing rounds to any comp,British and Worlds?
I fear that if the incentive to gain a place at what is seen as Britain's premier comp is reduced then fewer athletes will bother to compete,look at the Welsh comp,it nearly didn't even take place,and now with the suggestion of Scotland not having a UK's qualifier we've got 9 guys of National standard expected to twiddle their thumbs till next year comes round,not good for the progression of our sport.
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