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| Dennis Ruygrok | Jun 13 2008, 04:12 PM Post #201 |
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It's only gay if you smile during the reach-around.
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Way to go Loz!!!! We're all rooiting for you all the way over here in western Canada. Hopefully they'll honour the top 5 and you'll be in the big show. You deserve it! Dennis |
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| african lion strength | Jun 13 2008, 07:12 PM Post #202 |
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No doubt you're on point Loz, this is your year make it happen. Well done. |
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| GrantB | Jun 13 2008, 07:50 PM Post #203 |
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Grant is a magnificent bastard
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Nicely done, Loz! Congrats on your great performance. Hope Terry recovers quickly as well. |
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| veganlifter | Jun 13 2008, 07:56 PM Post #204 |
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Took one fan photo on the day with legendary worlds strongest beach bum Jouko Ahola! Man has been an inspiration for me as a finn as much as geoff capes for you brits.![]() |
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| Luke | Jun 13 2008, 09:00 PM Post #205 |
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This was the 1st time i'd gone to watch a strongman man comp and ive got to say I really enjoyed it, dont know why everyone has to be so negative about everything. I thought the wrestling was really entertaining, maybe they should of made it a straight knock out comp with only the winners fighting in the next round but apart from that I dont know what everyones complaining about. Saying that I did think it took way too long to set up the events and getting the cameras right, and I was amazed that even the interviews are rehearsed but apart from that there wasnt much wrong from what I could see. |
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| Mobster | Jun 13 2008, 09:10 PM Post #206 |
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You say it's the first time - so how the fuck do you judge what's ok?? And most here are thinking from the athletes view and not someone watching. Most non-tv type comps take 5 hours for 5 events. Not 10 for 3 and then fuck you by having you get injured by wrestling. |
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| Tom Jones | Jun 13 2008, 09:15 PM Post #207 |
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Administrator and don't you bastards forget it
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People are negative because with TWI it's not about the athletes, The fans, The good of the sport TWI is all about TWI and they treat people like shit. Steves correct, Put some effort in, get over the novelty value, and go see a few more comps this year and you'll understand the difference. |
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| Gannet1977 | Jun 13 2008, 09:19 PM Post #208 |
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Well done Loz great result mate! The problem with the wrestling is that it is a dangerous sport in it's own right and MMA guys and even WWE wrestlers are trained on how to balance and how to break fall to avoid injuries, obviously most strongmen are not. Successful MMA fighters are also well paid as are the WWE guys, but most strongmen have day jobs (many of them physical) so it's not just a case of missing the rest of the contest, or the next one, but the competitors families could potentially suffer just because TWI can't pick a sensible event. Who will pay a builder or plasterer's mortgage if they get injured in such a daft event-TWI?-I don't think so! Traditional strongmen events like loglift, deadlift, tyre flipping etc are hazardous enough, without adding an obviously dangerous event like wrestling. The strongmen had a worst deal than UFC fighters as they were already pre-exhausted from the other events. I think if TWI pick that event again the competitors and spectators should walk off and leave them to it- Colin Bryce vs Martin Bayfield anyone? |
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| Tom Jones | Jun 13 2008, 09:23 PM Post #209 |
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Very well said ![]() As you say when you learn judo , mma they teach you first how to break a fall. Bryce should have known better |
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| Mobster | Jun 14 2008, 08:46 AM Post #210 |
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Even all the fighting sports, MMA, Boxing, etc, etc, use mats or special areas (suspended and softened floors in pro-wrestling for example) as opposed to sand. No offense to our hefty lads but the style used in BSM was more suited to sumo and that's pretty much one fall or you go out and that's it. Plus the sumo lads train for a lifetime and get paid shed loads. I know, with a small knowledge of the strongman/highland games scene, that Dougie Edmunds et al may well have used a wrestling event back in the day. It's more likely that some strength athletes competed in both disciplines than they were wrestling in strongman and from memory I think they used an old form called Cumberland (??) which is very similar to Greco-roman (Olympic style). David Williams Strength Athlete magazine had a few write ups on this. One of the main issues is that the guys have gotten a lot bigger on average. Sure there were some big lads before but there are a lot more 20st plus lads now and of course a few Terry Holland size boys as well. How do you get another mug... err willing participant to offer themselves up for practice short of seeing what happens when you work the door on a Friday night?? Even then it's a two second hard slap to some silly 12 stone plum and it's all over. I'm sure TWI and Bryce will slow-mo it, adding tension enhancing music, but make little of the grimaces of pain we all saw in the lads and less still of Jimmy almost walking off and Olli disappearing. While it is indeed true that, as Bob said, many here would chew their left arms off for a chance to compete no one, including I presume Bob and one or two others, wanna see guys fucked up for the sake of a good viewing audience figure. That's without mentioning the heat (when the wind wasn't giving us a false sense of 'ah it aint that hot' ha ha), the usual standing around like spare dicks and that they had been at it for days. It's been asked before how some events, with much bigger crowds and competitors in and out of our sport (football, pro-wrestling, Olympics and even the Polish strongman competitions) can do these things in one day with a few more set in place cameras and one on the floor for interviews and close-ups than take a bloody week and over 10 hours a day for 2-3 events. |
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| stainless | Jun 14 2008, 09:23 AM Post #211 |
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Cumberland is correct,and you're right it was a lot safer than having two guys slam into each other sumo style but even that has no place in strongman.Incedently aside from training for years mostly as live in students the sumos are mega flexible vastly reducing injury,even with stretching playing a big part in your training,years of pressing etc is not gonna afford you the degree of flexability needed to avoid injury in wrestling. Hopefully Colin Bryce will learn and not take this nonsense into the World's.Despite what TWI may think it is the athletes that make the show,and since the guys themselves surely don't want to do the wrestling then don't sign that poxy TWI contract until it's sorted. |
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| Jiim | Jun 14 2008, 09:30 AM Post #212 |
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Strongman Mania
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Do it!! ... the wrestling needs to go, are they stupid enough to have it at WSM? |
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| Tom Jones | Jun 14 2008, 10:10 AM Post #213 |
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Administrator and don't you bastards forget it
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Mike, Any news on how Oli is feeling ? |
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| Gannet1977 | Jun 14 2008, 11:02 AM Post #214 |
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He is not too bad Tom and hasn't retorn the bicep, just pulled the muscle and is suffering from a bad case of tendonitis. He had a muscle fibre tear on the bad arm 2 weeks before BSM in the Ukraine, and was suffering a bit on log cleans etc and when the arm started playing up after wrestling the 2 biggest competitors, one after the other he decided it wasn't worth risking his season, particularly as a podium finish wasn't on the cards. I think he'll be ok for Madison Square Garden. |
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| veganlifter | Jun 14 2008, 11:11 AM Post #215 |
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good call from Oli, glad to hear it wasnt as bad as the first rumours had it. |
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| Tom Jones | Jun 14 2008, 11:46 AM Post #216 |
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Administrator and don't you bastards forget it
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Thats good to hear Mike. Good luck to him at the MSG comp |
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| Gannet1977 | Jun 14 2008, 12:11 PM Post #217 |
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Just got a text from Oli Tom, the pain in his arms wasn't just tendonitis, it appears some of it was referred pain from 2 broken ribs! Oli's having some luck at the moment! |
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| Tom Jones | Jun 14 2008, 12:26 PM Post #218 |
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For fucks sake, Oli deserves better luck than this, TWI need fucking up. Mike wish him a speedy recovery. |
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| Ron Burgundy | Jun 14 2008, 01:48 PM Post #219 |
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Insanity. That's all I have to say. There is a Scottish Cumberland wrestling match somewhere on youtube, one of the highland throwers ends up snapping his tibia while landing in sand. Strongman, not MMA. |
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| shawn | Jun 14 2008, 05:11 PM Post #220 |
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Gutted to hear about Oli, hope he recovers quick. |
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| Garrick Daft | Jun 15 2008, 02:13 AM Post #221 |
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So is Oli out of MSG!! I mean it seems obvious based on the damage inflicted to his body during BSM...but I just want to ask! Yeah Ron, Jon Anderson tore his knee up during WSN06 during wrestling in sand... his foot got stuck in the sand and thus sent the torque twist to his knee and about ripped his leg in half. ffor the 07 they changed it to a covered surface. Plus it seems like in BSM from what I've read, they started the matches not locked up, but actually seperated by some distance, like the old school WSM. I'm sure that contributed to some injuries. FYI, just trivia from a story that was told to me, ....Mikhail Koklyaev was set to wrestle Zydrunas Savickas at the WSN05. They locked up and were ready to go. Whistle blows and Mikhail leans back and slams his head full force into Zydrunas's face, apparently messing him up a bit in order to gain an advantage. Mikhail seems to like breaking stuff over his head or slamming his head into things...lol.. |
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