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KRAI THONG 1 & 2; Thai croc horror (the original versions)
Topic Started: Jan 8 2008, 08:46 PM (6,443 Views)
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Cool poster there for CROCODILE MEN, JC. And yes, those transcriptions can get to be a pain. Especially with films that are so rare and hardly mentioned in any books.


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Jack J
Apr 5 2008, 07:56 PM
Cool poster there for CROCODILE MEN, JC. And yes, those transcriptions can get to be a pain. Especially with films that are so rare and hardly mentioned in any books.


Jack

I recently learned that not one ("Crocodile Men") but THREE Krai Thong movies were produced in Cambodia, years before the two Thai movies starring Soraphong Chatree.
These films were:

1) "Kray Thorng neng Krapeu Charavann" released 1968 and starring Kong Sam Oeun et Dy Saveth.

2) "Champa Thorng" released circa 1970 and starring Kong Sam Oeun et Dy Saveth.

3) "Krapeu lok nén", released 1973 and starring Chea Yuthorn et Dy Saveth. This one wasn't a sequel but rather a remake, with Chea Yuthorn replacing Kong Sam Oeun in the title role. It's this movie which is available on VCD, renamed "Krai Thong kropeu Charavann", aka "Crocodile Men".


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Jack J
Apr 5 2008, 07:56 PM
Cool poster there for CROCODILE MEN, JC. And yes, those transcriptions can get to be a pain. Especially with films that are so rare and hardly mentioned in any books.


Jack

I recently learned that not one ("Crocodile Men") but THREE Krai Thong movies were produced in Cambodia, years before the two Thai movies starring Soraphong Chatree.
These films were:

1) "Kray Thorng neng Krapeu Charavann" released 1968 and starring Kong Sam Oeun et Dy Saveth.

2) "Champa Thorng" released circa 1970 and starring Kong Sam Oeun et Dy Saveth.

3) "Krapeu lok nén", released 1973 and starring Chea Yuthorn et Dy Saveth. This one wasn't a sequel but rather a remake, with Chea Yuthorn replacing Kong Sam Oeun in the title role. It's this movie which is available on VCD, renamed "Krai Thong kropeu Charavann", aka "Crocodile Men".

Hello Jean-Claude

I also did research about old Thai and Khmer films and I currently also believe that your list of these 3 films may be as correct as it gets.

1) "Kray Thorng neng Krapeu Charavann" released 1967 or 1968
currently most likely a lost film

2) "Champa Thorng" released 1969 or 1970
exists in bad state on Cambodian DVD

3) "Krapeu lok nén" released 1972, 1973 or 1974 (HKMDb lists it as "1983")
(= The Crocodile Men) Cambodian-Taiwanese (& Thai?) co-production
exists in bad state on Chinese VCDs (and on Cambodian DVD, with Chinese credits! The Cambodians probably took the existing Chinese print and re-dubbed it back into Khmer language)

I'm still trying to figure out the Cambodian title of the mysterious film "Lady Master Snake",
starring Dy Saveth and Kong Som Eun.
Like "The Snake Girl" ("Teeda sok puos"), it was released in Hong Kong by Ocean Shores Group, it even has the same Chinese title ("蛇魔女"), it however appears NOT to be the same
film.

May "Lady Master Snake" be the same film as "Snake Girl Drops In" (I haven't seen that one yet)?
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To date I'm aware of four movies starring Dy Saveth as the snake girl:

196? - POUS KENG KANG (Pos Keng Korng / Pos Kaing Korng)
referenced as "The Snake King", "The Giant Snake", "The Snake Man"
production company: Dara Rath Pheap Yun
producer / director: TEA LIM KOUN (Tia Lim Kean / Tia Kim Kon)
Cast: Dy Saveth, Chea Tuthorn, Sak Si Sbong, Or Dum, Mondoline, Noya,
By Saluoth, Suy [aka Bèn Séng], Neang Ny, Loto.

1971 (?) NEANG LAVEAR CHAIK (Cambodian title), NGU GENG GONG (Thai title)
In Honk Kong: The Snake Girl (released in HK in February, 1974)
production company: Sovankiry Pheap Yun
producer: Roy Chua
exec producer: Huoy King
director: CHIN WAN (aka KAM YUNG, JIN WENG)
screenplay: Huoy King
director of photog: Hui Kwok Fai (?)
editor: Chow Ming
music comp: Joseph Koo (aka Koo Kai-fai, Koo Chia-wai)
production manager: Leung Weng
Cast: Dy Saveth (Ah Mei), Kong Som Oeun (Fei Lung)
rest of cast: Oh Lan, Fong Au, Hon Kan, Choi Lam Lam
(I have the following character names, but I don't know who are the actors:
Meggie alias "Big Madam", Su-kuei, Mila, Ah-hua, Mute, Monkey.

1974 (? in HK only?) NEANG PREAY SORK POUS
presented by Roy Chua
producer: Hui Keung
director: HUI KEUNG (aka HUOY KING)
screenplay: Tyrone Hsu (aka Hsia Hsu Tien-yun Chu)
editor: Chow Ming
action dir: Chan San-yat
production manager: Ho Mei-ching
executive director: Tyrone Hsu
music composed by Frankie Chan Fan-kei
Cast: Dy Saveth, Chear Yuthorn, Aranya Namwong, Petchara Chaovarat

1974 (?) "La vipère du karaté" (French title). I don't think this one is one of the above but I can be wrong. The credits are as suc:
presented by Roy Chua
producer: Huy Keung
director: HUY KEUNG
screenplay: Tyrone Hsu
dir of photog: Chang Hsu Lin
editor: Chow Ming
executive director: Tyrone Hsu
(at first view the credits are same as film #3, but the cast is apparently different)
Cast: Dy Saveth, Yang Kuang, Tieng Feng, Tseung Kuang Chao, Lei Ming, Wei Ping Ao, Huang Lan, Lung Tien Chang, Dyna ("The Child Star"), Shao Lo Hui, Wang Fei, Hsu Liu Sheng, Yu Ting, Wang Jo Ping
+ some others difficult to read on the screen:
Tang...? Yu Jen
Wuen...? Hsiao Chun
"Chin King" ?
"Kang I" ?

Maybe these credits could help you to identify your movie...
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Thank you for posting these.

Sadly the on-screen credits for "Lady Master Snake" are entirely in Chinese, therefore it won't
be an easy task to identify the film.
I'll have to watch it in the coming days, maybe I'll know more afterwards.
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Ninja Dixon reviewed KRAI THONG on his blog and posted photos of the rubber crocodile:
http://wildsideofthailand.blogspot.se/2012...thong-1980.html

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I hope to find all of these Crocodile Man/Snake women VCD ad DVD once in Cambodia....and make the final point about all of these releases, because it seems there's still a lot of confusion and incorrect information about them
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Kraitong 1 and 2 are available under DVD format also :
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Extract Kraitong 2 from film 35mm format year 1985 - YouTube extract
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Not too bad....I guess? If somebody just would finance a proper restoration and put this stuff out on bluray :wub:
Are the DVD releases much better than the VCDs?
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