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CROCODILE
Topic Started: Aug 31 2008, 07:07 PM (6,891 Views)
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Watched today the thai VCD of this movie. As I felt that half-through in the movie the directors' style changes abruptly, thai with the usual random events in the first part, hongkonghese or japanese with a more concise even if carbon-copied from JAWS in the second, I got a sort of confirmation on the japanese CHAIYO site:

http://asia.geocities.com/fanclub_chaiyo/0...orake_frame.htm

Looks like this movie is coproduced by FIVE countries: Thailand, Japan (Tsuburaya supplied SPFX), Korea, HK (on the japanese site they list Shaw and Golden harvest...uhm...) and USA.
Searched on imdb and found that CHORAKE is listed under different titles as if it was a different movie:

Thai - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377707/
Korean - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079011/


Here's the HK title card

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And the japanese VHS

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What I would like to know is: are there differents cut for every country where it got released? To answer one question regarding the USA I bought on amazon the R1 DVD... ^__^



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You'll find the answer at the following site:

http://www.digital-retribution.com/reviews/dvd/0921.php

According to the review, AGOWA GONPO and CHORAKE are two different movies, but the second was constructed around sequences of the first one - so of course there are similar scenes in both.
Chaiyo was a specialist of these "patchworks", apparently - and the company even lost a trial intended by a Japanese producer years ago.
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Nope, I'm not sure but the description sounds suspiciously similar and if the infos from that japanese site are correct we can be 99% sure it's the same movie probably reshot with different cast depending by the country where it got distributed.
CROCODILE was released in Italy too and I saw it on TV but so much time passed and I have just a few memories...
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Aug 31 2008, 10:13 PM
Nope, I'm not sure but the description sounds suspiciously similar and if  the infos from that japanese site are correct we can be 99% sure it's the same movie probably reshot with different cast depending by the country where it got distributed.
CROCODILE was released in Italy too and I saw it on TV but so much time passed and I have just a few memories...

I was rectifying my message when something gone wrong in my PC and it was erased. Please read my rectified post above and you'll have your answer ! :lol:
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http://horror-movie-a-day.blogspot.com/200.../crocodile.html

Here they say the same thing...interesting!
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So the quest for AGOWA GONGPO must begin !
We can have a chance : as it was a co-production between Thailand and Korea, perhaps the Korean print still exists, untouched and just as originally filmed. I tried to find this movie on Korean databases, but didn't find it. This could be due to:
- a different spelling
- a totally different Korean title

It's also possible, of course, that the original Thai version still exists.

"Crocodile" (the Sompote Sands patchwork) was also theatrically released in France but I missed it, however I have a German VHS somewhere.
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Dick Randall was the US/UK connection on this movie. I believe Herman Cohen also had some financial interest in it.
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Indeed the USA R1 DVD contains a Herman Cohen interview. Hope to receive it soon so I can compare it with the thai one that I have freshly in mind.
Without doubts it has been americanized with caucasian actors added.

Btw, CHORAKE also contains some spfx from the 1978 drama-catastrophy movie PAEN DIN WIP-PA-YOK (a rather terrible film with a boring love-drama story, a big hurricane plus tsunami toward the end and some awful real violence with snakes skinned alive and crocodiles ripped open similar to those in CHORAKE or BLACK MAGIC II).

Noticed that some of the close-ups on the eye of the alligator in CHORAKE and shots of lightings in the sky in PAEN DIN WIP-PA-YOK are sort of stock footage used in many other movies made in Thailand and HK. Who knows where did they appeared first...
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I have the greek release. However, Ive never seen another print of the film so I cant comment on any edits/cuts.

I LOVE the japanese artwork for the film though!
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I absolutely LOVE this film. I have the US/UK/Greek/German/French/Japanese and Thai releases and there are really only two different versions: the "international" release Dick Randall prepared and the Asian version which can be found on the Thai VCD and the Japanese VHS (which is just the HK version with Japanese subtitles).

AGOWA PONGO is also just the Korean title of the film which poster utilizes the original Thai artwork with the naked babe in the croc's mouth. If I remember correctly from the Japanese Chaiyo site, two of the actors were Korean (Dr. Akom's friend and his friend's wife).

I have a ton of material on this film but I'm too drunk right now to think coherently.

BTW, the recent German DVD release of the film is the US version in full 'scope. The US DVD released by VCI just took the old Thorn/EMI pan-and-scan home video master and cropped it to 1.85:1!!!!
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