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Are these DVDs cut?; DEVIL'S KISS and BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW
Topic Started: Oct 13 2008, 04:29 AM (2,902 Views)
Stephen Gladwin
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Hey guys, just wondering if someone could chime in on the status of these two DVDs. I have dim memories that this Image Entertainment US release of the rare Spanish horror WICKED CARESSES OF SATAN (here under the DEVIL'S KISS title) is cut or not letterboxed properly (wasn't the Something Weird VHS more complete or something?). Is that true? Also, is the Anchor Bay UK release of BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW cut? I think it is complete, but I swear reading somewhere that it's overmatted to 1:85:1 and that older full-screen releases like the Midnight Video release are better from a compositional standpoint (don't know the OAR of this one off-hand).

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Blood On Satan's Claw is uncut on Anchor Bay UK dvd. The 1.77 or 1.85 AR preserves the theatrical presentation, but the film was shot open-matte. I haven't seen the dvd, but from reviews I gather that nothing important is matted out (though personally, any movie featuring nudity is preferable in the 'unmatted' format! :P ).
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Welcome back Ajji! Haven't seen you around here for a while. Hope things are better.

And yes, very true: the UK dvd is uncut.


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DEVIL KISS dvd is cut.
It is missing about one minute of erotic footage.
The old 1994 'Something Weird Video' tape is complete. I recently sold one and it is now very hard to find.

BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW UK dvd is overly dark and cropped. It crops off the nudity including the Linda Hayden below the waist nude scene.
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Oct 13 2008, 08:10 PM
BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW UK dvd is overly dark and cropped. It crops off the nudity including the Linda Hayden below the waist nude scene.

I admit it would be nice to see a fully nude miss Hayden but doesn't the dvd represent the way the film would have been shown at the cinema? (ahm, please understand this is merely a question to the format as I have only watched this dvd version. Not a new dvd vs. vhs debate, :lol: ).

So overly dark you say, is there a better version (any format)?


Btw, the dvd has two covers and the alternative one is way better than the one shown in the above imv.



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Oct 13 2008, 06:26 PM
Bill Knight
Oct 13 2008, 08:10 PM
BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW UK dvd is overly dark and cropped. It crops off the nudity including the Linda Hayden below the waist nude scene.

I admit it would be nice to see a fully nude miss Hayden but doesn't the dvd represent the way the film would have been shown at the cinema? (ahm, please understand this is merely a question to the format as I have only watched this dvd version. Not a new dvd vs. vhs debate, :lol: ).

So overly dark you say, is there a better version (any format)?


Btw, the dvd has two covers and the alternative one is way better than the one shown in the above imv.



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Good call Jack, I don't want to start any format debate either :lol:

I don't believe at all the way it is presented on DVD is the way it was shown in the theaters. I mean why would Linda Hayden go bare ass naked for a scene when it would be cropped off the screen anway!?!?! :P Wouldn't make any sense. She was completely naked for a reason in that scene as that is what was intended to be shot.

There are much brighter and better VHS versions of the film out there.

I see this 'cropping' alot on DVDs and sometimes it completely destroys the framing and makes the film feel "boxed in" and claustrophobic. Some people like the 1.85 anamorphic treatment of films that were shot full. No picture info is gained by doing this, only lost compared to the full frame version. Me, I'd rather see them in full screen any day and see the entire picture. To each their own.
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did someone mention a vhs/dvd debate ? :D

u know videohunter loves a nice FRESH RIOT ! :lol: :lol: :lol:


just jokin, good points Bill .....
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Oct 13 2008, 08:21 PM
did someone mention a vhs/dvd debate ?  :D

u know videohunter loves a nice FRESH RIOT !  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


just jokin, good points Bill .....

:D :lol: :lol: :D
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Many Spanish films had alternative 'unclothed' or 'exta explicit' footage shot for export versions. The fact that the 'Something Weird' tape features a minute of extra erotic footage means little really when discussing the completeness of the film at hand. It could very well be the the film's original Spanish edit is represented by Image Entertainment's DVD release whereas the 'Something Weird' tape may be representative of the export edit. Both are of great worth to fans/collectors, but neither can truly reflect the director's true intentions unless interview documentation of some sort exists where the director specifies which edit he prefered. Some felt that the extra nudity, sex or violence was unnecessary and prefered the original Spanish edits. Others felt hampered by the Spanish censorship system and felt that the extra-explicit versions they made for export better reflected their true vision. It is all relative. Only documentation of the director's feelings on a film can truly explain what is a complete original vision and what is a version lacking in their own eyes...

Either way, the fact that so many countries used to add alternate footage for export prints is something that allows one to experience a film in two differing strengths and, at times, differing structures...

As far as the over-matting debate...i would think that THE BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW was shot open-matte with the intention of being screened in cinemas at around 1.77:1 so as to fully appreciate the image as the director wished. 1.85:1 seems a little over-zealous to me if trimming off Hayden's hairy bits! lol
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Oct 13 2008, 08:43 PM
Many Spanish films had alternative 'unclothed' or 'exta explicit' footage shot for export versions.

please be specific , what titles r u refering too.........

and please don't try and tell me that was the case with the BCI Night of the Sorcerers DVD, because that is just a poor excuse by BCI to try and justify releasing a cut version.....
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