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HK/Thai SNAKE QUEEN movie?
Topic Started: Apr 16 2012, 11:50 AM (4,196 Views)
Jack J
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Hahaha, oh mein gott!!! An ebay seller is charging 300 dollars for three small lobbycards of a film he sells off as the Indonesian SNAKE QUEEN (starring Suzanna) and his entire plot description is of the Indo film... but his lobby cards are from an entirely different movie!!! Hahahaha. They're from a HK/Thai film of the same English title!!!

The Indo film is directed by Sisworo Gautama Putra. This joker's lobbycards clearly list a Snan Charussilp as the director, and the actors' names all seem to be Thai.

However... after having laughed at the eBay seller... I must admit I'm very curious about the HK/Thai film now. I have NEVER heard of it!!! Do any of you know this film???

PS: notice the huge spelling mistake on all three cards: Eastman "coulor". :wacko:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNAKE-QUEEN-Siswor...=item3a73162f03


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Now THAT's amazing.

And apparently, it's a missing link.

The pictures in these lobby cards are from a film which was released on HK Ocean Shores laserdisc (and VHS) as "Lady Master Snake" (Chinese title: 蛇魔女 "She mo nu", or "X ma nu").

I recently tried to identify that film, for which zero reliable information was available anywhere,
in this forum's "Krai Thong" thread believing it to be a Cambodian film thanks to the
wackos from Ocean Shores who mention "Starring Dy Saveth, Kong Som Eun" on the LD sleeve.

(Not to mention that they DID release the Cambodian film "The Snake Girl", actually starring
Dy Saveth and Kong Som Eun, under the VERY SAME Chinese title despite it being another film).

Now we have HKMDb listing those two entries, which may or may not belong to the same film:
http://hkmdb.com/db/search/results/dGkyN3y...xrPHx4Q-1.mhtml

Both are listed under the title "Snake Queen" (Chinese: 國蛇王女 (on poster)/蛇國女王 (HKMDb)/王女國蛇 (old writing in reversed kanji order on lobby cards) "She guo nu wang").

1) a 1974 (estimated) Taiwanese production (for which the poster artwork suits the lobby cards, as well as the actors e.g. the witch from the OS LD release of "Lady Master Snake");
2) a 1977 (estimated) Hong Kong production (for which the director's Chinese credit apparently is identical to the Ocean Shores LD print, as well as the main actor's names
also the LD opens with the logo of distributing company, Jia's Motion Pictures).

2 actors are listed on both films.

Needless to say all the mentioned Chinese credits don't match the Thai names from the
lobby cards.

However, having the name of famed beauty Aranya Namwong on hand, checking her snake movies leads to the following THAI film:

http://thaifilmdb.com/th/tt02876

แม่งู "Mae ngu"
Director: Sanan Jaratsin (alternate transliteration: Snan Charussilp!)
Starring: Chaiya Suriyan, Aranya Namwong, Metta Rungrat, Prim Prapaporn, Sasima Sirisilp etc.

released in Thai year 2515; = 1972

Conclusion (so far):

"Lady Master Snake" (HK English title) = "Snake Queen" (Taiwan English title) =
"Mae ngu" (Thai original title).

Watching old Asian films. It resembles archeology. :P

Thanks, Jack! :D
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My gawd!! It's more complicated than I thought!

And did you know there's an entry for the film (or for ONE of them) at the Hong Kong Film Archive? But only in Chinese.

I Wrote a post on my blog and the link is at the bottom:

http://backyard-asia.blogspot.com/2012/04/...other-name.html

And someone sent me a scan of the THAI poster!!

:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
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Apr 16 2012, 03:15 PM
My gawd!! It's more complicated than I thought!

Now isn't that always the case with these films :P

Yes I was aware of the entry at the Hong Kong film archive in Chinese language. They mention
Thailand as country of origin. Other than that, however, the entry wasn't very helpful since it
doesn't really identify the film.

Thanks for the link. Great blog you have there!

I believe this is a Taiwanese poster btw. It certainly isn't a Thai poster.
HKMDb also shows it in its entry for the 1974 "Snake Queen" film.
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Apr 16 2012, 04:46 PM
Thanks for the link to your blog. I believe this is a Taiwanese poster btw. It certainly isn't a
Thai poster.
HKMDb also shows it in its entry for the 1974 "Snake Queen" film.

Ahh, too quick there! A asked about it on Facebook and a friendly person in Thailand sent me the link and without looking too closely at it I "bought" it as a Thai poster. "oops!:

And yes I did actually see it on HKMDB. Double "oops!: "oops!:

:lol:

So you have the OS LD I presume, yes? So is the film a mix of Chinese and Thai actors or are some of the listed ones not the the film at all?

And this "other" SNAKE QUEEN film from 1977, does it exist do you think or is that just another entry for the same film?

That eBay guy really mixed up the films cos he posted the lobbies from the 1974 film, and said it is from 1976, and used the plot description from the Indonesian SNAKE QUEEN (from 1982)!!! :wacko: :lol:
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Thanks for the link. Great blog you have there!

You're welcome. And thanks, that's very kind of you. :up:
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You're welcome. Lots of interesting old school stuff on display there :)

>So you have the OS LD I presume, yes? So is the film a mix of Chinese and Thai actors or are some of the listed ones not the the film at all?<

I have it, but I still have to see the film as a whole. I put it in the player to verify the pictures on the lobby cards today, and they are in the film.
It's hard to tell about the actors, but most are certainly South East Asians (read: Thais), maybe there are some HK or Taiwanese actors involved as well.
It also can't be ruled out that Thailand and Chinese territories saw different edits...
Unfortunately I guess there's a fairly high possibility that the Thai version is lost anyway, since
there's no trace of it...

The LD is bilingual, one version being Cantonese, the other a (stunningly abysmal!)
English dub.

>And this "other" SNAKE QUEEN film from 1977, does it exist do you think or is that just another entry for the same film?<

I wish I knew! For now, I tend to the latter, it's however irritating that the credits (especially
the director's name) differ so much. Again, maybe same film, different edits?
(Think "Calamity of Snakes" here...)

>That eBay guy really mixed up the films cos he posted the lobbies from the 1974 film, and said it is from 1976, and used the plot description from the Indonesian SNAKE QUEEN (from 1982)!!! wacko.gif laugh.gif <

Indeed. Apparently he hasn't seen the Sisworo Gautama Putra film in a long time (if at all...)
I'm almost convinced the film in question (lobby cards) is the Thai film "Mae ngu", released in Thailand in April 1972 according to the Thai Film database.
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Godzilla2000, check this thread out:

http://z9.invisionfree.com/THE_CINEHOUND_F...?showtopic=5473

that's the one you've got right?

But Fiol calls it aka SNAKE GIRL, but that's incorrect isn't it? SNAKE GIRL is the REAL film with Dy Saveth. It's very confusing cos I have the Dy Saveth film on a dvd boot from FLK and the cover is almost the same!!

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Godzilla2000, check this thread out:

http://z9.invisionfree.com/THE_CINEHOUND_F...?showtopic=5473

that's the one you've got right?

But Fiol calls it aka SNAKE GIRL, but that's incorrect isn't it? SNAKE GIRL is the REAL film with Dy Saveth. It's very confusing cos I have the Dy Saveth film on a dvd boot from FLK and the cover is almost the same!!

Yes, that's the OS LD of "Lady Master Snake".

OS uses the same Chinese title (蛇魔女 "She mo nu"), as well as the same credits
on the jackets (Dy Saveth, Kong Som Eun) for both films. Also, that *is* Dy Saveth as the snake girl on the Lady Master Snake LD cover.

While she's not in the film, Thai uber-beauty Aranya Namwong apparently is (as well as tons
of other very beautiful girls btw.).

The OS releases do have different English titles though ("The Snake Girl" resp. "Lady Master Snake") and are, indeed, different films.

Who knows what they were thinking.
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My head is about to detonate. Very interesting thread!

I would kill for the poster. It's absolutely beautiful!
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