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Any Gamers?
Topic Started: Jun 2 2008, 04:06 PM (1,215 Views)
JD	Jun 2 2008, 04:06 PM Post #1
Evil Genius Posts: 4,518 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	I was wondering if there any gamers here at all, but it hardcore or casual? Persoanlly I consider myself a casual gamer, I don't play them as much as used to back in the day but I still have the odd bash every now and again. So, just to get the discussion rolling, fill us in on what gaming platform you use (PC, X-Box, Wii etc), what your are currently playing and what your favorite game(s) are. Here's mine; Platform: PC, haven't console-gamed since the much under-rated Sega Dreamcast Currently Playing: Neverwinter Nights Favorite Game: My favorite single game is Deus Ex. It might be ten years old but I've never played anything better or that's impressed me more. My favorite game series is Myst which I absolutely love although the series does have it's shortcomings. I'm also a big fan of 16-Bit retro games so stuff like Sonic the Hedgehog 1 and 2, Street Fighter II and, of course, Phantom 2040 are my bag baby!



Geaghs	Jun 2 2008, 04:24 PM Post #2
Singh Leader Posts: 1,175 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	I am pretty hardcore on my PS2. I will eventually be upgrading to a PS3 but only when they come down in prices. I use the PS2 to unwind after a day at work. I have a heap of sports games (Rugby League, Rugby Union, Soccer, Golf, Motorsports, Wrestling) but currently I am playing God Of War II (I can't wait for God Of War III to come out hence the need to upgrade to a PS3). My favourite series of Games on the PS2 is the Ratchet & Clank series followed closely by the Crash Bandicoot series (the best of these games are on the PS1). I also have a Super Nintedo hooked up to the TV at home and I jump on that occasionally if I am looking for something a little simplier (Super Mario Brothers, Zelda: Links Awakening, Phantom 2040 and so forth). On the PC I mainly play the original Age of Empires or Civilisation.
	"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." - C.M. Schulz "And all my friends are f*** ups, but there fun to have around" - You Sound Like Louis Burdett, The Whitlams


Paul Andreas	Jun 2 2008, 10:08 PM Post #3
Singh Leader Posts: 2,101 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	I prefer PS2 too (the PS3 is waaaaaaay to expensive to buy, so I hope I hope I'll get it for Christmas instead ), and my favourite game series are the Metal Gear Solid franchise. They are very emotional, funny and extremely well crafted gaming experiences (I'll get the PS3 one day just to play chapter 4). Other than that, I like San Andreas, Shadow of the Colossus, the Tony Hawk series, and many others. God of War is very good, but a bit overrated, IMHO.



Geaghs	Jun 3 2008, 01:28 PM Post #4
Singh Leader Posts: 1,175 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	Quote: God of War is very good, but a bit overrated, IMHO. Is that God of War 1 or God of War 2. I have both. I liked God of War 1 but number 2 is so much better. The story behind it just seems a whole lot more believable (well as believable as it can be for a fantasy game) and the way it sets up number 3 at the end is brilliant.
	"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." - C.M. Schulz "And all my friends are f*** ups, but there fun to have around" - You Sound Like Louis Burdett, The Whitlams


JD	Jun 4 2008, 12:29 AM Post #5
Evil Genius Posts: 4,518 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Like I said I've been out of console gaming for a while but one of my friends is really hardcore. He has, with no exaggeration, bought every "mainstream" console since the Sega Mega Drive/ Super Nintendo days and still has the lot. However, he hates Sony. He refuses to buy a PS3, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't has a PS2. His main gripe is the way Sony have done business with their consoles by basically bastardizing others. Like me, we is a Sega man and he really blames Sony for the death of the Dreamcast (which, really, is true, and there is more to that story than simple sales figures). He also feels that by "pimping" their system to pretty much anyone who wants to make a game for it means that more and more crappy, half-hearted games are being made so third parties can make a quick buck. Back in the old days of Sega/ Nintendo this didn't happen because the companies had their own in-house development teams to make games for their consoles (Sonic Team at Sega, for example) and if a third party team made a crap game it wouldn't get published because it would reflect more on the console it appeared on than the developer and also Sega/ Nintendo wouldn't spend money on rubbish games for their systems when that money could go towards a really nicely made in-house title. During the PS and PS2 days, he argues (or, basically, with the falling out of Sega from the console market) this ended because Soney would pay money for pretty much anyhting and companies that still made in-house games (really only Nintendo at the time) suffered because people looking to buy a console would see that Soney had a bigger title list than Nintendo and choose Soney even though 70% of those games were utter rubbish. So yeah, that's a bit of an essay (sorry) but if you look into it it does make sense. As I said I'm a fan of retro gaming and you can see a big shift in the way the gaming market is handed now as to when it was in, say, the early to mid 90s. Not that it's all bad of course, but it isn't all good either.



Paul Andreas	Jun 4 2008, 12:59 AM Post #6
Singh Leader Posts: 2,101 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Geaghs Jun 3 2008, 01:28 PM Quote: God of War is very good, but a bit overrated, IMHO. Is that God of War 1 or God of War 2. I have both. I liked God of War 1 but number 2 is so much better. The story behind it just seems a whole lot more believable (well as believable as it can be for a fantasy game) and the way it sets up number 3 at the end is brilliant. I have them both actually, and I think they're really good action games. However, I see many of my friends talking about them as some of the best games ever made, which I personally disagree on... GOW2 I have not yet finished, but I thought they both had good stories (although Kratos is a bit clichéd, I think). I heard the game's creator mentioning Billy Zane as one of his favourite choices to play Kratos in the movie version, which I thought was quite cool. Quote: Like I said I've been out of console gaming for a while but one of my friends is really hardcore. He has, with no exaggeration, bought every "mainstream" console since the Sega Mega Drive/ Super Nintendo days and still has the lot. However, he hates Sony. He refuses to buy a PS3, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't has a PS2. His main gripe is the way Sony have done business with their consoles by basically bastardizing others. Like me, we is a Sega man and he really blames Sony for the death of the Dreamcast (which, really, is true, and there is more to that story than simple sales figures). That may be true, but I personally don't really care that much about a company's methods as long as they make products I enjoy. Just look at how DC and Marvel seems to be squeezing out small publishers in the US comic market (that's what I read, anyway). I nevertheless still enjoy reading Batman or Spider-Man. I think the entertainment business is quite cynical overall. Just look at all the talentless musicians who gets more focus from record-companies than waaaaaay more talented people.



Geaghs	Jun 4 2008, 02:11 PM Post #7
Singh Leader Posts: 1,175 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	Quote: His main gripe is the way Sony have done business with their consoles by basically bastardizing others. Like me, we is a Sega man and he really blames Sony for the death of the Dreamcast (which, really, is true, and there is more to that story than simple sales figures). I agree with you in part that companies like Sony and more recently Microsoft have tried to kill of the competition but my biggest gripe back in the day was that if I wanted to play a certain game you had to have the correct console. This used to bug the living daylights out of me. These days at least you have the option of being able to get most games on whatever console you have available. Admittialy some of the games may not be as good as they were back in the day (graphics wise they are better, storyline maybe not) but I think this is more to do with the quantity of games that are being produced then anything else. Quote: I have them both actually, and I think they're really good action games. However, I see many of my friends talking about them as some of the best games ever made, which I personally disagree on... GOW2 I have not yet finished, but I thought they both had good stories (although Kratos is a bit clichéd, I think). I heard the game's creator mentioning Billy Zane as one of his favourite choices to play Kratos in the movie version, which I thought was quite cool. Yeah, I wouldn't go that far to say it is the best game ever but I think the series so far has been fairly good. I brought the special edition version of GOW2 and it comes with a bonus DVD full of interviews and so on. It is pretty good. I finished this again last night so i think I will be moving on to something else in the next couple of days. Maybe back to the good old Ratchet & Clank.
	"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." - C.M. Schulz "And all my friends are f*** ups, but there fun to have around" - You Sound Like Louis Burdett, The Whitlams


JD	Jun 4 2008, 03:08 PM Post #8
Evil Genius Posts: 4,518 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Quote: some of the games may not be as good as they were back in the day (graphics wise they are better, storyline maybe not) I also think that modern games are no where near as challenging as they used to be, at least the games I've played. I mean, there are some games I used to own on my Sega Megadrive I never completed (Maximum Carnage, Phantom 2040 [never with a good ending], Flashback, Wolverine: Adamantium Rage to name a few). I can't think of any game I've owned since I bought the Dreamcast that I've not finished. Every game I have currently for the PC I've finished at least once, a few on every difficulty setting. I'm not saying they aren't enjoyable just not as challenging. Maybe it's to do with the ability to save your progress now, I'm not sure I just remember ripping my hair out back in the day after I'd been killed for the billionth time.



Geaghs	Jun 4 2008, 07:06 PM Post #9
Singh Leader Posts: 1,175 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	Quote: I also think that modern games are no where near as challenging as they used to be, at least the games I've played. I mean, there are some games I used to own on my Sega Megadrive I never completed (Maximum Carnage, Phantom 2040 [never with a good ending], Flashback, Wolverine: Adamantium Rage to name a few). I can't think of any game I've owned since I bought the Dreamcast that I've not finished. Every game I have currently for the PC I've finished at least once, a few on every difficulty setting. I'm not saying they aren't enjoyable just not as challenging. Maybe it's to do with the ability to save your progress now, I'm not sure I just remember ripping my hair out back in the day after I'd been killed for the billionth time. I will agree with this but there are still some games out there that are pretty challenging. The above mentioned God of War I & II as well as Prince Of Persia: Sands of Time, Van Helsing and the Ratchet and Clank games all have some really challenging puzzles and sections to work out. I don't know how many times I pulled out my hair playing Prince of Persia. I think it is all the matter of just choosing the right game. One of the good things about the Ratchet and Clank series is that when you finish the game you can go back and play it over and over again to unlock all the parts you missed but it doesn't actually tell you what you missed just gives you vague clues or only the planet it is located on. It keeps the game challenging right up until you have complete 200%. That brings up another gripe I have with current games. What is with the 200% completion. My education in maths told me that when you have finished something 100% it is completed you don't keep doing it. I know it is there to indicate that you have completed all the extras (That is 100% is the game and the next 100% is the bonus bits) but it still bugs me.
	"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." - C.M. Schulz "And all my friends are f*** ups, but there fun to have around" - You Sound Like Louis Burdett, The Whitlams


JD	Jun 4 2008, 10:01 PM Post #10
Evil Genius Posts: 4,518 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Quote: I don't know how many times I pulled out my hair playing Prince of Persia. I think it is all the matter of just choosing the right game. Oh, dear lordy lord how I love that game. That brought back such fun memories of the 16-bit days and when my mates and I would play the original PoP at school seeing who could get the farthest without dieing. Sands has one ofthe best hand-to-hand combat systems of any game I've played and you just feel so cool pulling off some of those moves. And you're right, some of the puzzles really do have you scratching your head. Have you plated either of the sequels, Warrior Within or Two Thrones? I have WW and while it isn't as good as Sands it is a fun game, a lot darker than the first. Quote: That brings up another gripe I have with current games. What is with the 200% completion. My education in maths told me that when you have finished something 100% it is completed you don't keep doing it. I know it is there to indicate that you have completed all the extras (That is 100% is the game and the next 100% is the bonus bits) but it still bugs me. I can only think of two games off the top of my head in which I've gone through and picked up all the unlockables and so on and that was Uru: Ages Beyond Myst (and it's expansions) and Spider-Man (not the movie game). I kind of loose interest after I finish the main quests.



Geaghs	Jun 5 2008, 01:27 PM Post #11
Singh Leader Posts: 1,175 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	Quote: Have you plated either of the sequels, Warrior Within or Two Thrones? I have WW and while it isn't as good as Sands it is a fun game, a lot darker than the first. Not as yet but I have been meaning to get them. I have heard the story gets darker as the trilogy goes on. Quote: That brought back such fun memories of the 16-bit days and when my mates and I would play the original PoP at school seeing who could get the farthest without dieing. Did you manage to unlock the original Prince of Persia game while playing Sands of Time. I did and it's so great to be able to play the original again. Quote: I can only think of two games off the top of my head in which I've gone through and picked up all the unlockables and so on and that was Uru: Ages Beyond Myst (and it's expansions) and Spider-Man (not the movie game). I kind of loose interest after I finish the main quests. I was the same but now I am going back and trying to complete them all 100%. I think this is because I haven't really brought a new game for a while. I have done it with the Crash Bandicoot & Ratchet & Clank Series as well as Simpsons: Hit & Run. I will be trying to do it with God Of War I & II but that could be quite difficult and I am currently doing it with Tiger Woods 06. Man does that game have a lot of stuff to unlock.
	"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." - C.M. Schulz "And all my friends are f*** ups, but there fun to have around" - You Sound Like Louis Burdett, The Whitlams


JD	Jun 5 2008, 02:52 PM Post #12
Evil Genius Posts: 4,518 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Quote: Did you manage to unlock the original Prince of Persia game while playing Sands of Time. I did and it's so great to be able to play the original again. As far as I know you can't do that in the PC version of the game. I may be wrong though so correct me if I am.



Geaghs	Jun 5 2008, 07:36 PM Post #13
Singh Leader Posts: 1,175 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	Not sure on the PC.It is available on PS2 by breaking down a certain wall. To access it you then go into the options menu at the start screen. The option is always available but it is locked until you find the secret section so you could always check the PC options screen to see if it is there.
	"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." - C.M. Schulz "And all my friends are f*** ups, but there fun to have around" - You Sound Like Louis Burdett, The Whitlams


JD	Jun 18 2008, 08:10 PM Post #14
Evil Genius Posts: 4,518 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Anyone planning on checking out the new Iron Man or Incredible Hulk games?



Geaghs	Jun 20 2008, 01:17 PM Post #15
Singh Leader Posts: 1,175 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	I saw the add's for the iron man game and it does look good but I am not sure if I will get it. I am not a huge fan of games based on movies. I haven't seen anything on Hulk yet.
	"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." - C.M. Schulz "And all my friends are f*** ups, but there fun to have around" - You Sound Like Louis Burdett, The Whitlams


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