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NEW PHANTOM TV-SERIES!
Topic Started: Jul 30 2008, 12:24 AM (3,933 Views)
benno	Apr 15 2009, 12:04 AM Post #91
Evil Doer Posts: 354 Group: Admin Member #600 Joined: March 10, 2009	How about this concept for a futuristic science fiction take on a descendant phantom?



Paul Andreas	Apr 15 2009, 02:24 AM Post #92
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Nice job Pugg. You managed to make dog poop look a lot more appealing. I bet the reason they removed your post is because it makes them embarassed that they didn't do it this way. Quote: Still I am not interested, though seeing the series trailer with flashbacks to our regular Phantom might get me excited, 2010 we will see. Well... If the 1st Phantom wears a costume with any similarity to the one they designed, I swear I'll turn off the TV and never bother to watch the show again. Benno, I'd too prefer something like the Phantom 2040 costume, or the one from the Marvel miniseries. Edited by Paul Andreas, Apr 15 2009, 02:26 AM.



puggdogg	Apr 15 2009, 10:53 AM Post #93
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Well they took it down again.



peas_and_corn	Apr 17 2009, 06:08 PM Post #94
Singh Pirate Posts: 642 Group: Members Member #94 Joined: March 7, 2007	...I cannot begin to express just how awful it looks. Also- female Guran?
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Karl MAN	Apr 18 2009, 01:12 AM Post #95
Evil Doer Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 20, 2008	peas_and_corn Apr 17 2009, 06:08 PM female Guran? I am annoyed about that too; last time, Guran was a weedy Asian boy, now it is a "weedy" girl! I have heard about feminism, but why did they remove the "fat" (I do not know any better descriptive word, sorry Guran if you read this) chief of the Bandars, who does not care a thing of present day body ideals? A short fat Guran would sort of show up other peoples in the show who are kind of the opposite of the Phantom by means of body building.



Andreas	Apr 18 2009, 04:47 AM Post #96
Evil Doer Posts: 446 Group: Team CC Member #23 Joined: April 9, 2006	I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be a version of "our" Guran, as it is set somewhat in the future and does not focus on the 21st Phantom. Most likely, the SyFy people think that Guran is the name of all Bandar leaders (kind of like how the Phantom's mentor in Phantom2040 also was named Guran - but he was not a pygmy, but a giant!) Edited by Andreas, Apr 18 2009, 04:53 AM.



Paul Andreas	Apr 18 2009, 06:17 PM Post #97
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	I'd prefer if they just named her Turan or something, similiar to the way Egmont always changes the first letter in the name of the Bandar chief: Suran, Buran, Duran Duran (not really), etc. It might be kind of corny but it works. But Guran's "sex change" doesn't really bother me after seeing THAT costume, which stole most of my irritation by its sheer awfulness.



Karl MAN	Apr 20 2009, 11:11 PM Post #98
Evil Doer Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 20, 2008	Paul Andreas Apr 18 2009, 06:17 PM I'd prefer if they just named her Turan or something, similiar to the way Egmont always changes the first letter in the name of the Bandar chief: Suran, Buran, Duran Duran (not really), etc. It might be kind of corny but it works. Falk himself have done such things; there was a Bandar named Turan in "The First Phantom", and I think that he also called the Bandar who brought the news of the dying 2nd Phantom to the 3rd Phantom for Duran (I do not think that it is a Egmont creation), there might be other cases also. However, Guran, and all the other -uran-names, are male names, as far as I get it. It does not seem like we are going to have pygmy Bandars either.



Paul Andreas	May 2 2009, 11:26 PM Post #99
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Karl MAN Apr 20 2009, 11:11 PM Paul Andreas Apr 18 2009, 06:17 PM I'd prefer if they just named her Turan or something, similiar to the way Egmont always changes the first letter in the name of the Bandar chief: Suran, Buran, Duran Duran (not really), etc. It might be kind of corny but it works. Falk himself have done such things; there was a Bandar named Turan in "The First Phantom", and I think that he also called the Bandar who brought the news of the dying 2nd Phantom to the 3rd Phantom for Duran (I do not think that it is a Egmont creation), there might be other cases also. However, Guran, and all the other -uran-names, are male names, as far as I get it. It does not seem like we are going to have pygmy Bandars either. Thanks for posting this, I had forgotten all about that (Falk wrote too few historical adventures and it's been ages since I read any of them). I certainly don't expect pygmies in the show. We might not even get natives for all we know. They might have updated the Bandars to a bunch of Mawitaan "gangstas", nothing would surprise me at this point.



JD	May 3 2009, 08:17 AM Post #100
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Why not call her "Susan"? At least it kind of sounds similar...



Paul Andreas	May 3 2009, 04:50 PM Post #101
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	That does sound a little too normal in my eyes.



puggdogg	May 4 2009, 01:35 AM Post #102
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Suran?



JD	May 4 2009, 05:51 PM Post #103
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	You eye's can hear things, Paul?



Paul Andreas	May 4 2009, 08:30 PM Post #104
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Yes, it's a strange power I was born with. Don't tell anyone, or the government might use me for awful secret experiments.



Karl MAN	May 5 2009, 04:04 AM Post #105
Evil Doer Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 20, 2008	Concerning the update that was posted, I found this in the article: Quote: "He does not kill," she said. "He has the Phantom guns, but he never uses them to kill anybody. He is athletic, he's bright, and he finds ways to disable and stop his enemies using his brains and his physical abilities. He does not have superpowers." Well, at least they have gotten something of the Phantom character, unlike their original talk about "he kills people"-thing. I don't have much hope anyway (nor any ordinary access to a TV), so I probably won't see it.



Paul Andreas	May 5 2009, 05:32 AM Post #106
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Yeah, as long as it doesn't resemble the Phantom in anyway, I might avoid it too. I never thought I would, but I have absolutely no desire to watch this series right now. Seeing that picture of Ryan Carnes on the CC front page also hammers down the fact that he is laughably miscast, despite what I might have said earlier when I still tried to remain optimistic. He might be a talented actor for all I know, but I don't think he could scare me even if his name was Leatherface Krueger Vorhees and he ran after me with a chainsaw. The Phantom needs to be able to make villains wet themselves in fright. I agree it is good they ditched the "killing machine" aspect, but the bad things outweigh the good so far. I think I'd rather have him accidentally shoot a guy or something rather than having him wandering around in that hideous high tech suit. Edited by Paul Andreas, May 5 2009, 05:50 AM.



Fabio_Walker	May 5 2009, 11:16 AM Post #107
Thug Posts: 13 Group: Members Member #607 Joined: April 21, 2009	I`m worried with this new adaptation of THE PHANTOM. I also didn`t approve his new suit and I expect for him to use another one, more like in the one used in the comics. RYAN CARNES might be a great actor, but I just don`t see him as KIT WALKER (He`s too short, looks pretty young and has blonde hair). Perhaps, in the future, I may change my mind... If I could choose the cast, I`d choose VICTOR WEBSTER because he looks like BILLY ZANE. Actually, they could act together like father and son! TOM WELLING, JUSTIN HARTLEY and WES BROWN also could be great as THE PHANTOM.



JD	May 5 2009, 07:41 PM Post #108
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Welcome to the forums, Fabio.



Karl MAN	May 5 2009, 11:56 PM Post #109
Evil Doer Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 20, 2008	Fabio_Walker May 5 2009, 11:16 AM RYAN CARNES might be a great actor, but I just don`t see him as KIT WALKER (He`s too short, looks pretty young and has blonde hair). Of the things that you mention, only the hight is the really worrying thing for me, as he is supposed to be the 22nd Phantom or something, there has definitely been blond Phantoms before (the 1st for one) and many of them has at least in Team Fantomen lore (but I think that it is implied in many of the Falk stories), been in their teens when they took over. The poor guy seems to be around as tall as I, while I have always imagined myself the Phantom as at least 10 cm taller. Lee Falk has explicitly stated that the Phantom is quite tall, he even made a story, "The Fourth Son" in which this was explicitly stated by saying that every Phantom has been tall with the exception of the 9th. 1.75 is in my country slightly below the average height of men.



Fabio_Walker	May 6 2009, 02:47 AM Post #110
Thug Posts: 13 Group: Members Member #607 Joined: April 21, 2009	Thanks, JD! I hope to discuss a lot about this amazing character with the other members. KARL, as I`ve said before, I just don`t see RYAN as THE PHANTOM, but I`ll give him a chance.



Paul Andreas	May 6 2009, 02:54 AM Post #111
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Fabio_Walker May 5 2009, 11:16 AM I`m worried with this new adaptation of THE PHANTOM. I also didn`t approve his new suit and I expect for him to use another one, more like in the one used in the comics. RYAN CARNES might be a great actor, but I just don`t see him as KIT WALKER (He`s too short, looks pretty young and has blonde hair). Perhaps, in the future, I may change my mind... If I could choose the cast, I`d choose VICTOR WEBSTER because he looks like BILLY ZANE. Actually, they could act together like father and son! TOM WELLING, JUSTIN HARTLEY and WES BROWN also could be great as THE PHANTOM. Welcome to the forum! I Googled all the choices you mention, Tom Welling aside (he's the only one I knew from before, and he has the looks of the Phantom). They would all look good for the role, much better than Carnes. Like you mention, he's too short as well, but that would not be a big deal for me if his face somewhat resembled the character's, which it doesn't. He'd be more suited to play Rex or Kit Jr. Another choice would be Alexander Skarsgård, from the series Generation Kill. He's Swedish, so he might even know the character. He'd probably be a good choice for Legacy. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002907/ Quote: The poor guy seems to be around as tall as I, while I have always imagined myself the Phantom as at least 10 cm taller. Billy Zane is not that tall, but he looked perfect for the part, and was muscular enough. So could Sam Worthington, who is shorter than Zane (thanks again, IMDb). Carnes is buff, judging from the pictures I've seen of him (he seems awfully fond of taking his shirt of in front of photographers ), but he still looks too, I don't know, skinny, slight, tiny, for the role. Then again, he has an "awesome" high tech suit that can probably do the entire job of crimefighting for him.



Paul Andreas	May 20 2009, 02:34 AM Post #112
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	http://muse.ca/4105/fiche.asp?id=177 First look at Carnes (or a stuntman) in costume, though it's a very poor, unclear image. My initial reaction is that he looks much too slight to be a convincing Phantom, but we already knew that I guess. Gotta love the synopsis: "Law student and parkour runner ('traceur') Chris Moore is shocked to learn that he was adopted and that he is actually the son of The Phantom, a caped crime-fighter. He joins the Phantom team in the jungles of Bengalla to be expertly trained in martial arts and combat, and emerges as the next Phantom to battle the assassins of the evil Singh Brotherhood." Using the name Moore is possibly the best thing they've done on this show so far.



peas_and_corn	May 20 2009, 11:42 AM Post #113
Singh Pirate Posts: 642 Group: Members Member #94 Joined: March 7, 2007	Caped?
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Paul Andreas	May 20 2009, 06:10 PM Post #114
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	The writers thinks the Phantom lives on a place called Skull Island, what did you expect? Sigh. (I'd not be surprised if they actually added a cape to the costume, just to steal even more from The Dark Knight)



JD	May 20 2009, 10:34 PM Post #115
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	The more I read about this the worse is sounds. Edited by JD, May 20 2009, 10:36 PM.



Karl MAN	May 22 2009, 01:23 AM Post #116
Evil Doer Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 20, 2008	Paul Andreas May 20 2009, 02:34 AM "Law student and parkour runner ('traceur') Chris Moore is shocked to learn that he was adopted and that he is actually the son of The Phantom, a caped crime-fighter. He joins the Phantom team in the jungles of Bengalla to be expertly trained in martial arts and combat, and emerges as the next Phantom to battle the assassins of the evil Singh Brotherhood." Using the name Moore is possibly the best thing they've done on this show so far. I certainly agree on the Moore thing. I did not know what was meant with parkour running so I checked wikipedia, a short glimpse at the article has at least given the project one plus point; the guy have some useful skill already before his training begins! Though that will probably not save the project.



Paul Andreas	May 22 2009, 04:38 AM Post #117
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Karl MAN May 22 2009, 01:23 AM Paul Andreas May 20 2009, 02:34 AM "Law student and parkour runner ('traceur') Chris Moore is shocked to learn that he was adopted and that he is actually the son of The Phantom, a caped crime-fighter. He joins the Phantom team in the jungles of Bengalla to be expertly trained in martial arts and combat, and emerges as the next Phantom to battle the assassins of the evil Singh Brotherhood." Using the name Moore is possibly the best thing they've done on this show so far. I certainly agree on the Moore thing. I did not know what was meant with parkour running so I checked wikipedia, a short glimpse at the article has at least given the project one plus point; the guy have some useful skill already before his training begins! Though that will probably not save the project. Parkour was also used in Casino Royale, at the early scenes at Madagascar, where 007 chases an enemy for about ten minutes. It could be cool to see something like that with the Phantom, in the Bengallan jungle, but it's not exactly original these days, many films seems to have copied it after CR. And yes, it's cool Chris has some skills before he becomes the Phantom. However, I suspect we can look forward to several cool or boring training sequences in the Skull Cave and jungle, where the female Guran teaches him "Phantom stuff". It's a shame really. If the costume looked more like the real Phantom and another actor was cast in the title role, I would have breathlessly anticipated this project, regardless of the plot.



Xander	May 22 2009, 02:32 PM Post #118
Singh Mastermind Posts: 874 Group: Members Member #309 Joined: March 16, 2008	I am still going to withhold judgment on the project until i at least see on episode of TV film or whatever. Although the costume and numerous error in story line is making that hard to do. As for a blond phantom i don't have a problem with that seeing as it isn't a representation of the current (21st phantom) but rather a future one. Because realistically its impossible for all 22 or 23 generations of Phantom to look the same (as they do in many Egmont comics) Anyway it still could be a great action/adventure tv show but its looking less and less like its going to be a good phantom show.



Karl MAN	May 23 2009, 02:09 AM Post #119
Evil Doer Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 20, 2008	Xander May 22 2009, 02:32 PM I am still going to withhold judgment on the project until i at least see on episode of TV film or whatever. Although the costume and numerous error in story line is making that hard to do. As for a blond phantom i don't have a problem with that seeing as it isn't a representation of the current (21st phantom) but rather a future one. Because realistically its impossible for all 22 or 23 generations of Phantom to look the same (as they do in many Egmont comics) Agreed, and then it is as official as it can be that the 1st Phantom was blond, so why not some of his descents?



Paul Andreas	May 24 2009, 05:51 PM Post #120
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	And off course, Kit Jr. is blond too in Egmont and Falk stories. Quote: Because realistically its impossible for all 22 or 23 generations of Phantom to look the same (as they do in many Egmont comics) Sure, but that still doesn't excuse casting such a wimp in the lead role, in my eyes. He looks like he came straight out of grade school. I can honestly say I look fifty times more like the Phantom than Ryan Carnes. I don't have a problem with the screen Phantoms not looking much like each other, like you say it's almost impossible, but they could at least have made an effort to give the role to a guy who looks like he could actually take on a bad guy or two. I have an interview with Lee Falk where he says that the actor who should play the Phantom (this was before the Zane film) needs to be big, needs to look like he could take on six guys at once. I agree with this, and Carnes looks like he could barely beat up a cat. Edited by Paul Andreas, May 24 2009, 05:53 PM.



Karl MAN	May 26 2009, 02:54 AM Post #121
Evil Doer Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 20, 2008	Paul Andreas May 24 2009, 05:51 PM Quote: Because realistically its impossible for all 22 or 23 generations of Phantom to look the same (as they do in many Egmont comics) Sure, but that still doesn't excuse casting such a wimp in the lead role, in my eyes. He looks like he came straight out of grade school. I can honestly say I look fifty times more like the Phantom than Ryan Carnes. I don't have a problem with the screen Phantoms not looking much like each other, like you say it's almost impossible, but they could at least have made an effort to give the role to a guy who looks like he could actually take on a bad guy or two. I have an interview with Lee Falk where he says that the actor who should play the Phantom (this was before the Zane film) needs to be big, needs to look like he could take on six guys at once. I agree with this, and Carnes looks like he could barely beat up a cat. Considering the age, in the Team Fantomen lore, some of the Phantoms were only 16 years old when then swore the oath, so if he looks young, it is not so bad in my opinion, but he ought to be reasonably big so that he could scare the the bad guys though, just as Falk said. There are no direct contradiction with being scary at the age of 16, if it is in the middle of the night and he is big and reasonably tough-looking.



Paul Andreas	May 26 2009, 06:31 AM Post #122
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Agreed. The 6th Phantom was as far as I remember the one who took over when he was 16, but Barry still drew him as a big, menacing guy. I've always been tall myself, and when I was 16 I think I was around 194 cm. I could probably defeat the SyFy Phantom by simply sitting on him (kidding, off course, but you get the point). I can certainly not imagine anybody being very scared of a man that small in build, particularly not the "trained assassins" that the Knaufs mention.



Fabio_Walker	May 31 2009, 08:15 AM Post #123
Thug Posts: 13 Group: Members Member #607 Joined: April 21, 2009	Thanks for posting the link with the image of the new PHANTOM in action, PAUL. I`m a little concerned with the new movie, because the producers choose to keep this new costume and plot, but I`m gonna see it anyway. Although, as I`ve said before, I would prefer to see something closer to the comics...



Paul Andreas	Jun 2 2009, 02:41 AM Post #124
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Fabio_Walker May 31 2009, 08:15 AM Thanks for posting the link with the image of the new PHANTOM in action, PAUL. I`m a little concerned with the new movie, because the producers choose to keep this new costume and plot, but I`m gonna see it anyway. Although, as I`ve said before, I would prefer to see something closer to the comics... You're welcome, mate, I hope they release a better photo soon. I have a tiny hope the final costume might look different than the ones we saw in the designs a few months ago. I will surely end up watching the miniseries (I love the character too much to not give it a shot), but if I don't like it, I might not bother checking out the potential regular series (though I'll quickly change my mind if it gets good response from fellow fans). I don't think we'll see anything closer to the comic before another TV channel buys the rights (this is SCI FI channel after all, and the Phantom is hardly a very Sci Fi-ish hero). Though it would be nice if they had a flashback to an earlier Phantom fans could actually recognize as a nod to the people who have made the character last so long. Edited by Paul Andreas, Jun 2 2009, 02:42 AM.



puggdogg	Jun 2 2009, 10:44 PM Post #125
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Wait what link? I must be blind 'cos I don't see one. There's a photo?



Paul Andreas	Jun 2 2009, 11:57 PM Post #126
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Here it is (again ): http://muse.ca/4105/fiche.asp?id=177



puggdogg	Jun 3 2009, 12:35 AM Post #127
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Thanks for the link. So Odette Gadoury is to blame for the costume design. At least they added something that resembles the Phantom again. They either had this design already locked in or they took all the negative feedback seriously. Length: 2 x 2 hours Location: Filmed in Montreal, NYC & Costa Rica Starring: Ryan Carnes Sandrine Holt Jean Marchand Cameron Goodman Isabella Rossillini Director(s): Paolo Barzman Executive Producer: Michael Prupas Robert Halmi Sr. Robert Halmi Jr. Producer(s): Irene Litinsky Cinematographer: Pierre Jodoin Casting: Lucie Robitaille Production Designer: Zoe Sakellaropoulo Writers: Dan Knauf Charles Knauf Editor: Arthur Tarnowski Costume Designer: Odette Gadoury Production Companies: Muse Entertainment Shooting Dates: Spring 2009 International Distributor: RHI Costa Rica hey? Probably for the bengalla scenes maybe. If Bengalla is actually in it. Attached to this post: Phantom_Mini_Series_Photo.jpg (188.78 KB) Edited by puggdogg, Jun 3 2009, 12:39 AM.



puggdogg	Jun 4 2009, 10:09 PM Post #128
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Purple suite, real stunts, some possible jungle locations and a return of the basic mask and cowl. SyFy have definitely displayed some improvements after the release of the concept art.



Paul Andreas	Jun 4 2009, 11:54 PM Post #129
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Agreed, but they've still got a guy who looks like he belongs in The Goonies in the title role. It's hard to see if they really have changed the hood that much. To me it doesn't look that much like the one in the comic.



Paul Andreas	Jun 17 2009, 03:53 AM Post #130
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	http://muse.ca/4105/fiche.asp?id=177 First real pick of Carnes as Chris Walker/Moore/Whatever. He actually looks pretty "Phantom-y", maybe he can pull this off after all.



puggdogg	Jun 17 2009, 10:18 AM Post #131
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Hmm. The pic hasn't really convinced me of anything yet. But at least he's using a gun.



germ	Jun 17 2009, 10:35 AM Post #132
Evil Doer Posts: 313 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: April 7, 2006	>>he is actually the son of The Phantom, a caped crime-fighter. caped crime fighter??
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puggdogg	Jun 17 2009, 11:46 AM Post #133
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	germ Jun 17 2009, 10:35 AM >>he is actually the son of The Phantom, a caped crime-fighter. caped crime fighter?? That's what I thought too. Maybe they're just saying that as in terms of being a super-hero and not technically wearing a cape.



Vivek	Jun 17 2009, 01:39 PM Post #134
Vivek Bhat Posts: 534 Group: Team CC Member #426 Joined: May 10, 2008	So far have they mentioned any details as to which Phantom is he supposed to play? Do you guys think he could be the 23rd Phantom, Kit and Diana's grandson? One way I wouldn't really mind accepting the character (Chris Moore) as Phantom is if he is indeed supposed to be a very distant future version of Phantom. (Though I understand it is set in current time)
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puggdogg	Jun 17 2009, 02:52 PM Post #135
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Didn't they say he was the 22nd? Because that would be stupid. It'd be far more acceptable if he was the 23rd.



Paul Andreas	Jun 17 2009, 06:15 PM Post #136
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	They've said he was the 22nd, but hopefully they'll change that to 23rd or something. As for "caped crime fighter", it just shows how desperate SyFy seems for a Dark Knight-clone. I'll be happy to be proven wrong on this too, but the ridicilous costume designs makes it look like they've seen the recent Batman film way too many times.



Paul Andreas	Jul 10 2009, 06:55 PM Post #137
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	After watching a particularly brilliant episode of Battlestar Galactica yesterday (I sadly only have eight episodes left now), it struck me why nobody ever asked Mark Verheiden to be a part of the SyFy Phantom show. He has written some of the best Phantom stories ever (in my humble opinion), and produced BSG for Sci Fi Channel, so you'd think he'd be a logical choice to write for this series as well. Mike Bullock and Ben Raab should also apply to become regular writers for the regular TV-series that will be made if the miniseries is a success. Then the birds would sing, the sun would shine, and everybody would be peaceful and happy in this world.



Paul Andreas	Jul 30 2009, 12:30 AM Post #138
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	I just updated the site with a Skull Cave photo. It sadly looks even less awe-inspiring than the one from the old Tom Tyler serial. Then again, the budget is probably not very high, and it's not like I am prepared to be blown away by anything in this series after so many dissapointments this far. I tried to add a "Discuss here" link to the post, but I was unable to link to this thread due to the fact that the thread adress is on my computer simply "www.chroniclechamber.com". Sorry.



Vivek	Jul 30 2009, 09:43 AM Post #139
Vivek Bhat Posts: 534 Group: Team CC Member #426 Joined: May 10, 2008	Chances are there will be little CG background added to make it more mystical and appealing. Still can't really say whether that would make any real difference.
	- Vivek


puggdogg	Jul 30 2009, 10:40 AM Post #140
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	What the hell? How are people going to take the Phantom seriously. It looks like a monkey going WHOOP WHOOP WHOOOOOOOOOOP! Edited by puggdogg, Jul 30 2009, 01:37 PM.



JD	Aug 3 2009, 05:26 PM Post #141
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Whow, that is HORRID! I'm really not looking forward ot this thing...



Paul Andreas	Aug 4 2009, 05:25 AM Post #142
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Vivek Jul 30 2009, 09:43 AM Chances are there will be little CG background added to make it more mystical and appealing. Still can't really say whether that would make any real difference. That would cost money, which I can't help suspecting is something SyFy is not that keen on spending on anything that is not strictly necessary (in their eyes at least). Still, they're responsible for the greatest TV-show of all time (BSG), so how bad can this really be? I will have to check it out on DVD of curiosity and loyalty for the character, but I don't have anything resembling excitement left for this project.



Paul Andreas	Aug 8 2009, 04:55 PM Post #143
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	New photo, easily the most interesting so far: http://muse.ca/4105/fiche.asp?id=177 It looks like it was taken straight out of the Zane movie, which is kind of ironic given how SyFy are obviously desperate to distance themselves from that version. Carnes looks much better as Chris Walker than I expected, and you've got to love the "What the hell am I doing here?!" look on his face in this one. Though I hate stereotyping, these natives certainly doesn't look very African to me. Maybe Chris somehow finds himself washed ashore the same beach as the first Phantom did centuries ago. That would be kind of cool, and very similiar to the brilliant Hans Lindahl story "The 22nd Phantom".



Paw Broon	Aug 10 2009, 07:14 AM Post #144
Henchman Posts: 89 Group: Members Member #575 Joined: October 22, 2008	I've managed to navigate my way to the costume photos. Am I missing something? 'cos that doesn't look like The Phantom. In fact it all seems a bit silly and while I'll watch anything purporting to be The Phantom (for a while, at least) I can't see where adherence to the legend and tradition is apparent here. Are KFS happy about this? Anyway, all you folk who thought the serial was bad might have to reconsider in light of this. The Phantom costume looks so good as is. It's typical of films and t.v. to play about and waste tried and proven subjects. It's as if executives have to justify their money by changing things and invoking the dreaded updating to make stuff relevant.



puggdogg	Aug 10 2009, 02:56 PM Post #145
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Current SyFy Phantom photos. Attached to this post: Phantom_SyFy.jpg (144.77 KB) Phantom_Skull_Cave_SyFy.jpg (129.63 KB) Edited by puggdogg, Aug 10 2009, 02:58 PM.



Paul Andreas	Aug 11 2009, 03:15 AM Post #146
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Paw Broon Aug 10 2009, 07:14 AM Are KFS happy about this? I don't know, but I am sure they are very happy about the money it will earn them. Quote: Anyway, all you folk who thought the serial was bad might have to reconsider in light of this. Hear, hear. Quote: The Phantom costume looks so good as is. It's typical of films and t.v. to play about and waste tried and proven subjects. It's as if executives have to justify their money by changing things and invoking the dreaded updating to make stuff relevant. There are so many ways to update the costume for the screen while still having it look like the Phantom. Hopefully, they managed to do just that (as seen by the photo Puggdogg kindly posted here, the initial designs were apparantly not what they ended up using). But I agree with you completely.



Karl MAN	Aug 12 2009, 05:59 AM Post #147
Evil Doer Posts: 203 Group: Members Member #573 Joined: October 20, 2008	The exteriour of the Skull Cave is apparently made in a studio, this might not by definition mean that it would look unreal onscreen. The Abba movie "Mamma Mia!", is largely set at an hotel at a Greek island, however, the hotel exteriour was shot in a studio, while most of the scenes who was not at the hotel area were shot on location. Apparently, they also used a model of the hotel to shoot the place. Had it not been that this was stated in behind-the-scenes footage, I would still have thought that the hotel actually existed somewhere in Greece, so it is definitely possible to make such a place look like a real place. However, I must say that the cave look a little bit too small to me (the one in the 1996 movie looked a little bit too large, plus the fact that the floor was not flatat the entrance); int the comics, the entrance appear to be perhaps twice the height of the Phantom, while here it looks as if he will have to bow down to enter -- hardly a magnificent entrance for a visitor.



Paul Andreas	Aug 13 2009, 05:18 AM Post #148
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Karl MAN Aug 12 2009, 05:59 AM However, I must say that the cave look a little bit too small to me (the one in the 1996 movie looked a little bit too large, plus the fact that the floor was not flatat the entrance); int the comics, the entrance appear to be perhaps twice the height of the Phantom, while here it looks as if he will have to bow down to enter -- hardly a magnificent entrance for a visitor. Exactly. The cave should look spectacular and, um, mythic, something that would inspire awe in people who sees it for the first time.



Paul Andreas	Aug 16 2009, 10:35 PM Post #149
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	According to IMDb, actor Cas Anvar is playing the head of the Singh Brotherhood, Rhatib Singh. Never heard of him personally. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0031679/ One of the positive things SyFy has done so far is to avoid changing the Singh name into Sengh, which both the Paramount movie and the planned-but-scratched Hyde Park Entertainment movie did.



Paul Andreas	Aug 29 2009, 05:57 PM Post #150
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	After one of my female friends asked me if I knew "the hot gay guy from Desperate Housewives is playing the Phantom!" (I suppose that is like asking a World War II veteran if he has heard the name "Adolf Hitler"), I decided to check out some videos featuring Phantom-to-be Ryan Carnes. While he still is not how I envision a Walker to look, he does seem like a fine actor. Liked this funny video in particular: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwbu7MAr6-M&feature=channel_page It's from a show called Samantha Who?. Interestingly, Billy Zane had a recurring role in that one, playing Christina Applegate's boyfriend (or something like that, never saw it myself). The guy's voice sounds pretty perfect for the Phantom, if you ask me. Check out more videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/carnesfan Edited by Paul Andreas, Aug 29 2009, 05:58 PM.



Vivek	Nov 24 2009, 12:05 PM Post #151
Vivek Bhat Posts: 534 Group: Team CC Member #426 Joined: May 10, 2008	http://www.awn.com/news/visual-effects/sci-fis-craig-engler-promoted-svp-gm-sci-fi-digital Craig Engler is the SVP and GM of SyFy Digital I've been following SyFy (Craig Engler) on twitter for couple of months now. And came across this recent tweet from him. Quote: Came back from a week's vacation and found rough cuts of The Phantom on my desk Also one of the users there posted the following question. WhytWulf Quote: Q: "The Phantom" - Most of the reader comments are vulgar, insulting, and misspelled, but they make a point. Do u guys read them? SyFy Quote: A: LOL. Yes, we read them. And yes, the caliber of comments on the Internet is...well, what it is;) I am guessing some fans have been either posting nasty comments on the SyFy forums or directly sending their tweets to Craig about the Phantom TV series.
	- Vivek


JD	Nov 24 2009, 09:23 PM Post #152
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	I'd bet my last dollar it's over the horrid costume.



Paul Andreas	Nov 25 2009, 06:43 AM Post #153
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	JD Nov 24 2009, 09:23 PM I'd bet my last dollar it's over the horrid costume. Nuff said. Quote from SyFy guy: Quote: A: LOL. Yes, we read them. And yes, the caliber of comments on the Internet is...well, what it is;) That's a stupid non-answer. Most of the comments I have read that are against the costume are well-written, and not of the "OMG PURPLE H00DIE THIS SXS SO MUCH LOLZ" kind. If he paid any attention to these and other Phantom forums in particular, he'd see most Phans have a more logical way of thinking than whoever-designed-the-costume. The best piece of writing I've seen on the new outfit comes from "our own" Geaghs, which he posted at the Moonstone forums (he might have posted it here too, I can't remember). I hope you don't mind me posting it again here, Luke! I know we are complaining a lot about the costume but I am going to try and play Devil's Advocate. I think the new costume kind of makes sense, if I have been told that it is my destiny to take on heavily armed bad guys that all want to kill me and my only skill is my ability to bounce around of buildings (I can't remember what his is called, you know, the thing where people run around the city using the walls and rails and such to get where they are going quicker), I would be trying to get the most armour I can on. There is no way I would wear a purple lycra suit that offers no protection at all. We need to remember that this version of the Phantom has not had the Jungle up-bringing or training that the previous Phantoms have had. As for the Mask, I don't like it either, but seeing I am trying to defend the suit, lets see what I can come up with . I think the only reason you would go with it is that it hides the face a whole lot more then a domino mask. I've always been a little surprised that people don't recognise Mr Walker and The Phantom as the same person a whole lot quicker then they do. Also with Kit being based in New York a lot of people would know him without a mask so just hiding your eyes would probably not be enough to hide your identity. The other upside I think is that, by looking at it, it can be rolled up and down, meaning that if Kit wants to transform into the phantom, all he has to do is roll down his "beanie" and his mask is on. It could save time looking through your pockets for your Domino Mask (I just had an amusing thought, imagine Mr Walker going into the Morristown, seeing something going on and deciding it's time for the Phantom to make an appearance, only to discover he has left his mask in the Treehouse ). Almost makes me like the thing ("almost", mind!). Edited by Paul Andreas, Nov 25 2009, 07:20 AM.



Xander	Nov 25 2009, 11:06 AM Post #154
Singh Mastermind Posts: 874 Group: Members Member #309 Joined: March 16, 2008	I would take it they read the SyFy forum comments and maybe ones that are sent to them however because I have no way of knowing unless they mention the phantom forums or come post here i have my doubts they are reading our posts after all the Internet is a big place filled with mostly negative comments about this show which for someone associated with the making of the show would be fairly depressing (they obviously think they have a good thing going) And i know that if i ever got the chance to make some kind of phantom related media (one can dream can't he ) and received this much criticism before its even been released and only about a minute or so has actually been seen via the trailer (Which i still maintain looks pretty awesome) I would probably take it pretty hard as i am sure most people would whether they would admit it or not after putting so much time, money and effort into it. only to have several thousand random people on the internet go "guys you do know that costume looks ridiculous" (which i maintain it does but thats not the point)



Bill F.	Nov 25 2009, 11:18 AM Post #155
Evil Doer Posts: 386 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: April 4, 2006	Paul Andreas Nov 25 2009, 06:43 AM I've always been a little surprised that people don't recognise Mr Walker and The Phantom as the same person a whole lot quicker then they do. Also with Kit being based in New York a lot of people would know him without a mask so just hiding your eyes would probably not be enough to hide your identity. I think it's the same lame situation as no one waking up to Clark Kent being superman because he wears spectacles.



JD	Nov 25 2009, 10:17 PM Post #156
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	I have to disagree with Geaghs. You can keep the costume looking similar to it's comic counterpart and still have it being functional. Just look at the new Batman films.



Paul Andreas	Nov 26 2009, 06:00 AM Post #157
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Bill F. Nov 25 2009, 11:18 AM Paul Andreas Nov 25 2009, 06:43 AM I've always been a little surprised that people don't recognise Mr Walker and The Phantom as the same person a whole lot quicker then they do. Also with Kit being based in New York a lot of people would know him without a mask so just hiding your eyes would probably not be enough to hide your identity. I think it's the same lame situation as no one waking up to Clark Kent being superman because he wears spectacles. Ah, yes, that's a major case of "suspension of disbelief".



Geaghs	Nov 26 2009, 06:26 PM Post #158
Singh Leader Posts: 1,267 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	Quote: The best piece of writing I've seen on the new outfit comes from "our own" Geaghs, which he posted at the Moonstone forums (he might have posted it here too, I can't remember). I hope you don't mind me posting it again here, Luke! No worries Paul, I meant to post it over here and it totally slipped my mind. Quote: I have to disagree with Geaghs. You can keep the costume looking similar to it's comic counterpart and still have it being functional. Just look at the new Batman films. Maybe JD, but even in the new Batman movie series, we had scenes of Bruce Wayne adapting items to his suit/arsenal before it turns into what we have known and grown used to. A perfect example would be what is currently the Bat Mobile (sp??), it's nothing like it is in the comics I have read (admittedly only the early stuff, nothing recent). What I was trying to achieve with this post was to put myself into the mindset of the character they are portraying. I am sure if someone told anyone of us on the forum that you had to take on an "army" of armed bad guys, we would want as much armor as possible on. Hopefully the show will end with Kit having enough confidence in his abilities to wear the "proper suit". Personally I am not going to criticize the suit to much until I physically see it on TV in the completed show.
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JD	Nov 26 2009, 06:53 PM Post #159
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Yes, but look at the Marvel mini, or even the current Moonstone series. The costume is made out of Kevlar and (in the Marvel series) the mask has infra-red, all kinds of crime fighting gizmos and it still actually looks like a recognizable Phantom costume. I understand where you are coming from but I think they have strayed way too far from the mark. As for the Batmobile, it has constantly evolved and changed so there is precedence within the comics to have an all new and different one.



JD	Nov 29 2009, 09:31 AM Post #160
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Just saw the premiere up-date Paul posted. Didn't realize it's be so soon. So I'm guessing thats a US date though. Wonder if it'll be seen in other parts of the world? Edited by JD, Nov 29 2009, 09:34 AM.



Xander	Nov 29 2009, 09:45 AM Post #161
Singh Mastermind Posts: 874 Group: Members Member #309 Joined: March 16, 2008	Good to see its coming out this year now will finally be able to pass final judgment on it. which i have been trying to hold off on doing for a long time now and failing mostly.



puggdogg	Nov 29 2009, 10:48 AM Post #162
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	I was expecting it to be on the Syfy channel. I don't even have the Movie Network. Guess it's torrent time again. Edited by puggdogg, Nov 29 2009, 10:49 AM.



Paul Andreas	Nov 29 2009, 07:01 PM Post #163
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	puggdogg Nov 29 2009, 10:48 AM I was expecting it to be on the Syfy channel. I don't even have the Movie Network. Guess it's torrent time again. I'm very much against illegal downloading, but this might have to be an exception (will buy it on DVD/Blu Ray too when it comes out). Not sure when I will watch it, though, I was thinking of watching the Tom Tyler serial again some days before Christmas, and I have to say that is still more tempting than the mini. It's possible it will air at SyFy at a later day, or so I could imagine. The mini is as far as I understand a collaboration between SyFy and TMN, so I expected it to air on both channels. More channels means more people becoming aware of the Phantom, which is obviously a good thing. Also, it's interesting that they're listing the show as being PG (Parental Guidance). I guess they might have had to tone down some of the violence seen in the trailer. Edited by Paul Andreas, Nov 29 2009, 07:46 PM.



puggdogg	Nov 29 2009, 10:08 PM Post #164
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Paul Andreas Nov 29 2009, 07:01 PM I'm very much against illegal downloading I only download things that aren't available. I've bought quite a few things that have become available since downloading too. Which means for me no one has been hurt financially and I don't have a guilty conscience.



Mike Bullock	Dec 2 2009, 09:11 PM Post #165
Phantom Scribe Posts: 244 Group: Phantom Creator Member #20 Joined: April 8, 2006	puggdogg Nov 29 2009, 10:48 AM I was expecting it to be on the Syfy channel. I don't even have the Movie Network. Guess it's torrent time again. That's a Canadian channel... looks like the US won't see it either...



puggdogg	Dec 2 2009, 11:29 PM Post #166
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	Mike Bullock Dec 2 2009, 09:11 PM puggdogg Nov 29 2009, 10:48 AM I was expecting it to be on the Syfy channel. I don't even have the Movie Network. Guess it's torrent time again. That's a Canadian channel... looks like the US won't see it either... Oh. Here in Australia we have a series of movie channels. One set is called the Movie Network. I assumed it was all connected in some way.



JD	Dec 3 2009, 06:11 PM Post #167
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Be thankful you have pay TV. I only have free-to-air so I'll probably have to wait for the DVD.



Mike Bullock	Dec 3 2009, 10:15 PM Post #168
Phantom Scribe Posts: 244 Group: Phantom Creator Member #20 Joined: April 8, 2006	puggdogg Dec 2 2009, 11:29 PM Mike Bullock Dec 2 2009, 09:11 PM puggdogg Nov 29 2009, 10:48 AM I was expecting it to be on the Syfy channel. I don't even have the Movie Network. Guess it's torrent time again. That's a Canadian channel... looks like the US won't see it either... Oh. Here in Australia we have a series of movie channels. One set is called the Movie Network. I assumed it was all connected in some way. We have Showtime, HBO, The Movie Channel, Starz, Cinemax and one or two others, but I'd never heard of that one before...



JD	Dec 4 2009, 06:48 AM Post #169
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Yeah, our set up here is different to the US's. All the networks have to acquire their own rights to show programs here in Australia, even if their is already a US "version" of that network, such as Sci-Fi and which is why the US get the new Doctor Who before us (and, I think, because the ABC has dibs here in AU).



puggdogg	Dec 4 2009, 07:10 AM Post #170
Mick Collins Posts: 1,153 Group: Team CC Member #79 Joined: January 29, 2007	JD Dec 4 2009, 06:48 AM which is why the US get the new Doctor Who before us (and, I think, because the ABC has dibs here in AU). Doctor Who is shown on the UK channel with Foxtel/Austar.



Geaghs	Dec 4 2009, 08:19 AM Post #171
Singh Leader Posts: 1,267 Group: Moderator Member #196 Joined: December 5, 2007	puggdogg Dec 4 2009, 07:10 AM JD Dec 4 2009, 06:48 AM which is why the US get the new Doctor Who before us (and, I think, because the ABC has dibs here in AU). Doctor Who is shown on the UK channel with Foxtel/Austar. True, but only after free to air show it first. It's something to do with the anti-syphoning laws in Australia, where free to air TV get the first crack at everything. If they don't want it, then it goes to Pay-TV, in this case, Foxtel (as the only pay TV provider in Oz, Austar just use their channels), who decide which channel it should go on. However, I think the Movie channels are set up a little different and kind of follow their American cousins (Showtime & The Movie Network) hence why there are movies that are shown first on pay.
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berkyj	Dec 4 2009, 01:34 PM Post #172
Thug Posts: 23 Group: Members Member #29 Joined: April 12, 2006	Geaghs It's something to do with the anti-syphoning laws in Australia, where free to air TV get the first crack at everything. If they don't want it, then it goes to Pay-TV, in this case, Foxtel (as the only pay TV provider in Oz, Austar just use their channels), who decide which channel it should go on. It will be interesting to see what happens if the government go ahead and change this which I read they are thinking of doing although that might only be around sport
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Paul Andreas	Dec 5 2009, 07:29 PM Post #173
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	puggdogg Nov 29 2009, 10:08 PM Paul Andreas Nov 29 2009, 07:01 PM I'm very much against illegal downloading I only download things that aren't available. I've bought quite a few things that have become available since downloading too. Which means for me no one has been hurt financially and I don't have a guilty conscience. Glad to hear that mate... More should follow your example, and we'd get more quality films and television series than we do at the moment.



germ	Dec 6 2009, 06:09 AM Post #174
Evil Doer Posts: 313 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: April 7, 2006	So in other words its Torrent time...
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JD	Dec 6 2009, 08:51 AM Post #175
Evil Genius Posts: 4,813 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: April 4, 2006	Pretty much...



Paul Andreas	Dec 22 2009, 06:57 PM Post #176
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	The first opinion about the show is in: "It aired on the Movie Central HD channel (Channel 182) from 8:00 - 9:30 p.m. on the 21st of December. I live in northern Alberta (don't know if that helps). I just watched the first part of it. I'm not that much of a reviewer, sorry. I thought it was okay. The way it was filmed reminded me a lot of Smallville. The Phantom's costume and the outside façade of the training facility were kind of dorky. I'm not really a superhero fan, except for Superman, so I really don't know too much about the Phantom; however, "The Phantom" was entertaining to watch. I really don't want to say too much about whether it was good or bad since I just don't know what people require for it to be so. Good luck at trying to get a hold of it sooner. Maybe you could convince the SyFy network that you have done a lot to promote the shows of theirs on Kryptonsite and they might give you a nice Christmas present. The only reason I watched "The Phantom" was because you posted the information on the site. Otherwise, I hope you know someone who knows someone who could get you an advance copy of the show. " http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121046&page=3



Vivek	Dec 22 2009, 07:56 PM Post #177
Vivek Bhat Posts: 534 Group: Team CC Member #426 Joined: May 10, 2008	Okay so both Parts have been aired in Canada. http://www.moviecentral.ca/schedule/schedule.aspx?sd=12/20/2009%2010:30:00%20PM Dec 20, 2009. 8:00 PM - Part I http://www.moviecentral.ca/schedule/schedule.aspx?sd=12/21/2009%2010:30:00%20PM Dec 21, 2009. 8:00 PM - Part II Can't believe there aren't any more reviews online yet, guess I have to wait until it airs on SyFy.
	- Vivek


Paul Andreas	Dec 29 2009, 04:50 AM Post #178
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	Review posted by "rgcustomer" at IMDb, with some VERY minor spoilers: Quote: (* spoilers *) Having just watched it, I was let down. Frankly, if Ryan wasn't so much fun to watch, I might have changed the channel. The first half was slow and dull, but it did do the job of making you interested in seeing the second half. But the second half was just ludicrous. Some of the lines were so unintentionally hilarious, it really distracted from the show. I wish I had written them down to mock here, but I didn't. But as an example, a TV reporter points out the "purple" suit, which is clearly black. Maybe even the new suit is supposed to be purple, but it's not, and the reporter certainly wouldn't know that anyway. And of course, the "to be continued"-style ending with the new head of Singh Brotherhood just made me want to throw the whole TV off the roof. After three hours, we deserve a conclusion, not an intro to part 3. The impression I get is that this is a failed TV pilot, being dumped out as a miniseries. But, I'd like to see this re-made as a cinema film. I think Ryan is a good fit for the role, and I think the story of The Phantom is interesting. The Halloween III Season of the Witch plot line has to go though. How many times do we have to see that remade? And what do they have against TiVo (TIVkOm)? Anyway, three hours is far too long for the material presented. 90 minutes would have been enough. The cinematography and sound is typical of cheap Canadian schlock, which I assume this is. Really, this kind of video is a far more evil adversary than any Singh Brotherhood could ever be. 6/10 Doesn't sound too good, sadly, but I look forward to making up my own opinion.



Andreas	Dec 29 2009, 05:11 PM Post #179
Evil Doer Posts: 446 Group: Team CC Member #23 Joined: April 9, 2006	Paul Andreas Dec 29 2009, 04:50 AM The impression I get is that this is a failed TV pilot, being dumped out as a miniseries. But, I'd like to see this re-made as a cinema film. I think Ryan is a good fit for the role, and I think the story of The Phantom is interesting. This actually sounds good to me.. that the SyFy version isn't getting good reviews, but makes people curious about the Phantom concept. Good promotion for Legacy



Paul Andreas	Dec 31 2009, 04:02 AM Post #180
Singh Leader Posts: 2,188 Group: Team CC Member #5 Joined: April 4, 2006	That would be fantastic. I suppose it's good PR for the comic too if this really is the case. The Phantom needs some exposure to come back into the public's consciousness.



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