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Some facts on the GM 7 license; that probably you don't know
Topic Started: May 31 2007, 03:30 PM (1,048 Views)
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I found these thing on this site, have a look :blink:

From the GM7 license
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2.1.  You agree and acknowledge that all right, title, interest and ownership rights in any and all copyright, design right, database right, patents and any rights to inventions, know-how, trade and business names, trade secrets and trade marks (whether registered or unregistered) and any applications therefor and other intellectual property rights ("Intellectual Property Rights"), in or connected with the Software and any and all copies thereof (including in particular but not limited to any data, database, designs, titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialogues, catch phrases, places, concepts, artwork, animation, sounds, music, audio-visual effects, text, methods of operation, moral rights and any related documentation) are owned by YoYo Games. All such rights of YoYo Games are hereby asserted and reserved.

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Yoyo Games claims ownership of all such resources "in or connected with the Software". Since "connected with" is not defined, we are left very much in the dark about what exactly Yoyo Games owns--after all, aren't our games in some way "connected with" the Game Maker Software?

So, you can also read the license in this way...
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Yoyo Games owns your game, your patents, your objects, sprites, sounds, your character names, your "catch phrases."  Heck, somehow Yoyo Games even owns your "Moral Rights..."
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Wow. This license agreement is actually a bigger impertinence than the one of Windows Vista. It gives me one more reason to continue offering Game Maker 5 files for Ultimate 3D, since Game Maker 5 has a better license agreement. According to this EULA YoYo Games owns Ultimate 3D, because Ultimate 3D is connected with software that's being created in Game Maker 7. That really makes me angry.
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They own nothing from me and and they certainly never would even if I ever had used GM7 because I wouldn't give up without a legal fight and the so called "license" is far from legal in my eyes.
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Now I really happy that I stick in version 6, becouse my crap computer can't run gm7.
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if they technically 'own' everything related to gamemaker, that means that they probably have the right to claim a portion of any money made with something made from gamemaker, if they choose to do so...

maybe someone should post this on the gmc forum and see what happens...;
you know, see if we can get this changed.
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http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=302012
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I asked for an official answer: maybe I should open a new topic and put a link to the site :think:
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I also emailed YoYo Games. Creating a topic about this on the GMC can't be wrong for sure.
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Yoyo Games owns your game, your patents, your objects, sprites, sounds, your character names, your "catch phrases."  Heck, somehow Yoyo Games even owns your "Moral Rights..."


Yoyo games can't own nothing from me, and from nobody, the idea of the game aren't from them. Well, they have to explain it better, because sometimes people may don't understand what they really want to tell.
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Jun 2 2007, 01:28 AM
Yoyo games can't own nothing from me, and from nobody, the idea of the game aren't from them. Well, they have to explain it better, because sometimes people may don't understand what they really want to tell.

Yoyo games can own everything from you, if you would reword your sentence.

In essence, that is true, by using gamemaker, you agree whatever EULA they have (within reasonable terms, they can't say "I OWN YOUR LIFE" in a EULA), and if that EULA sais they own any content created with the program, you'll have a hard time overcoming that in court.
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Jun 2 2007, 09:13 AM
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Jun 2 2007, 01:28 AM
Yoyo games can't own nothing from me, and from nobody, the idea of the game aren't from them. Well, they have to explain it better, because sometimes people may don't understand what they really want to tell.

Yoyo games can own everything from you, if you would reword your sentence.

In essence, that is true, by using gamemaker, you agree whatever EULA they have (within reasonable terms, they can't say "I OWN YOUR LIFE" in a EULA), and if that EULA sais they own any content created with the program, you'll have a hard time overcoming that in court.

That's deffinately not true. That's called a scam/robbery in my country. Besides, you only agree to the EULA by using Game Maker 7 and not previous versions so they can forget that I will be using Game Maker 7.
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Does nobody understand that they are talking about Gm in the paragraph? NOT software you create with it?

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in or connected with the Software


All there saying is that they own all rights to Game Maker. Not what you make with it.
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elmernite
Jun 2 2007, 03:22 PM
Does nobody understand that they are talking about Gm in the paragraph? NOT software you create with it?

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in or connected with the Software


All there saying is that they own all rights to Game Maker. Not what you make with it.
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They should have made a better effort then to state what they really ment in the license. "The software" doesn't really tell me that they are talking about Game Maker, but rather my own software which I develop with Game Maker.
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Oh, I'm not saying they worded it the best they could. They could have been a lot clearer. But by the software you can tell they are leaning towards meaning Gm.
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Well, even if this part is not meant to be understood like this (which I'm not quite sure about, due to the phrase "in or connected with the software"), the one which stipulates the contents of your games is a mess and YoYo Games definitely should remove it. I'd appreciate if some of you would also email YoYo Games about this.
The writer of this article about the license is not quite wrong saying that each of us had to destroy his copy of Game Maker 7 if he would comply with their terms, because it stands in conflict with the right of free speech, so we can't accept the license agreement.
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