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multiplayer; Despellanion need your help
Topic Started: Jun 21 2007, 12:39 PM (765 Views)
silverfire56
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Despellanion u r making a mmorpg

what multi player code did u use
mplay, 39.dll, or something else

and do u need any extra code because its 3d
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im pretty sure he used mplay but 39dll is the fastest and the most efficient. if you use mplay people with dsl(routers) won't be able to play at all....

its just like making a 2d game online, but you do need to send some extra variables for 3d like z, height, direction and basically anything that makes you move in 3d space that you don't use in 2d.

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Dazed and Cold
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mplay sucks

i use GMsock
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I use 39dll.dll ofcourse. It's no diffrent than making a 2D mmorpg. Instead of sending sprite data, I send model animation data. Other than that it's just the same variables that needs to be sent and the additional Z-variable so that the other players doesn't walk on the same Z-level all the time. Btw, GMsock sucks equally much as GM mplay.
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Btw, GMsock sucks equally much as GM mplay


^^ lol..
no actually it doesnt .. sorry but its about the exact thing as the 39dll... loll? wtf you smoking..

obviously u dont know how to use it or its to complicated for you.?? seems like it..

again ...gmsock and 39dll are about the same thing they do the SAME thing....

so maybe you mean ... U like 39dll better than Gmsock?
cuase gmsock doesnt suck at all.. niether does the 39dll
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39dll is way harder than gmsock.....

and 39dll is ultimately faster than gmsock.

i know this because i first started with gmsock and made an mmo(because gmsock is so easy)and i thought it wasn't fast enough so i moved up to 39dll and if you know what you are doing even people on 56k modems won't experience any lag at all.

39dll also has more features and examples and is still being worked on (i think) and gmsock is outdated(i think)

nothing is equal to mplay it is the slowest method, but i suggest for people that are wanting to learn online play that they look at mplay first.

you should learn in this order:
1)mplay-to learn the basics of sending information, and online play
2)gmsock-to learn some of the more advanced functions of online play.
3)39dll-to make your game with(because its the fastest)

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it is fast...
but they do the same thing

i know this because ive made stuff with both.

39dll sure i give it a A+
but i give Gmsock a A+ to
using sockets.. they both do. alrighty ladies and gents? lol
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silverfire56
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i had a look at 39.dll ill make a multiplayer game in 2d first (never made one)

p.s. im behind a router is that a problem
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Jun 22 2007, 01:58 AM
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Btw, GMsock sucks equally much as GM mplay


^^ lol..
no actually it doesnt .. sorry but its about the exact thing as the 39dll... loll? wtf you smoking..

obviously u dont know how to use it or its to complicated for you.?? seems like it..

again ...gmsock and 39dll are about the same thing they do the SAME thing....

so maybe you mean ... U like 39dll better than Gmsock?
cuase gmsock doesnt suck at all.. niether does the 39dll

Why is it that you always have to give me a mean comment everytime you see me say something you don't agree on? A simple "I don't agree" would have been fine but instead you have to go and post "What have you been smoking?" and stuff like that. It always seems to be me that you like to pick on...

Anyways, yes GMsock and 39dll does the same thing (at some points not) but that doesn't mean that they are the same thing. I've used both of them (and I couldn't even get a server started with GMsock). GMsock was far from what I expected with mostly lack of speed. When I said they sucked equally much I ment in speed and features and I certainly don't think 39dll is hard to use. That's my opinion. Btw, why would I not know how to use it when I have already made a mmorpg (2 actually)? That doesn't add up, don't you think? How many mmorpgs have you made, lol? So keep your comments about me to yourself, thank you.

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i had a look at 39.dll ill make a multiplayer game in 2d first (never made one)

p.s. im behind a router is that a problem

It would be if you use GMsock but that's no problem with 39dll.
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lol? ive made alot of them

and it doesnt matter how many ive made... u sound cocky about that.. and its just dumb...
i just know. We = both programmers and both have our opinions... but u straight up dissed on something u probably dont know about. i didnt diss on anything but Mplay, but probably 90% of the people that have used 39dll or gmsock would diss on mplay.. cause yah it sux lol...
using Sockets is the way to go.. (gmsock, 39dll) .. i cant explain it any other way, but they DO THE SAME THING..... sure in different ways... but they DO.. so performance IS NOT distant.... U know why? BECAUSE IVE TRIED EM BOTH, SAME GAME.. SAME CONNECTED PEERS... They both Do FINEE for what u need em for.

and u havent gotten a server started with Gmsock? well dude then thats your problem
dont diss on something u dont know how to work lol.

sure it could have been difficult , but GMsock is good so is the 39dll.

Since this topic, im gunnna release something that i didnt even care about working on.. that took me 2 days.

just for fun using GMsock so u all can see that it does and is decently fast compared up to 39dll.

thanks.. i willl post a topic soon with some Junk that i threw together
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Wait mplay cant connect through routers....that explains so much....ages ago i was developing a office poltergiest type program with more features. it worked when the server and program were on the same computer but not when it was on my other computer... i gave up and resigned myself to being crap at coding :D

so is 39dll easy to use?
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@oblivion:
39dll is easy to use if you have the right tutorials, and/or examples.
what makes it even easier to learn is if you have someone to teach you.
39dll is 1x harder to learn than gmsock and 2x harder than mplay, i dunno why, but it just is.

@dazed and cold:
gmsock servers mess up frequently, they have a leaking problem where the server can shut down in the middle of running it, and/or it can shut down right after you click run. i started making a topdown mmo with gmsock and i had to click run 3 times to make the server start and stay on.

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My servers i make in VB, cause thats a simple language and use winsock.. easy enough..

but.. gmsock is not bad ..

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silverfire56
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Woow Calm down
(i have nothing else to say)
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silverfire56
Jun 23 2007, 11:29 AM
Woow Calm down
(i have nothing else to say)

I agree, calm down. zelda4evr summed up what I said very good.
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