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| skarik | Jul 29 2010, 05:18 AM Post #1 |
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Post whatever is on your mind at the moment. It doesn't matter what, just post it! |
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| alexmach1 | Oct 17 2013, 12:42 AM Post #2851 |
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I will never understand the support putin receives on the internet. |
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| RonBurgundy | Oct 17 2013, 06:33 AM Post #2852 |
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Forum Borat
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Government is shutdown but they still know how to take taxes out of my paycheck. They can't pay there bills, and they def aren't helping me pay mine. Canada sounds pretty good right now have to admit, at least they take care of their people better. |
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| zelda4evr | Oct 17 2013, 07:22 AM Post #2853 |
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I was thinking this exact same thing today, they NEED us to pay their bills for them and they still can't get it right with millions of people helping. Yet I have no one helping me, I only help myself and I do it right every time. But I just saw a post that the federal government is up again. |
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| Despellanion | Oct 17 2013, 08:31 PM Post #2854 |
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Have it really gotten so far to that we cannot joke about US politicians anymore? I won't be oppressed by a government that's not even mine. |
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| zelda4evr | Oct 17 2013, 08:57 PM Post #2855 |
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Well us Americans are being monitored... They track a huge list of keywords that are typed and spoken, they also track what we, "like" on facebook to identify and label us easier. I'm honestly almost afraid to even like something political on facebook. It's because the NSA is exempt from all laws except laws that are specifically directed towards the NSA. The NSA knows what the president doesn't, and the president simply tells them to do whatever it takes to get it done. All of our rights are gone, the constitution doesn't matter any more and our forefathers would be disappointed. IMHO |
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| Dr. Best | Oct 17 2013, 11:24 PM Post #2856 |
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Actually it seems, that the NSA tracks US Americans slightly less than the rest of the world. The Snowden documents hint at that and so do the official statements. The US government and the NSA do not even bother to deny most of the surveillance of foreign citizens. Either way this whole scandal is horrific and disturbs me deeply. Privacy is gone. It is that simple. Secret services and some companies get to know more about you than most of your trusted ones. Almost all meta-data of communication is being gathered, be it via phone, email, instant messengers, social networks or by (snail) mail. There are hardly any ways to circumvent this. If you communicate with somebody, who is not in the same room, the secret services will get to know that this communication took place, who the communicating parties were and where they were at that time. Additionally, movement profiles can be created for all cell phones (not only smart phones). US legislation does not protect meta-data efficiently at all. And there is strong evidence that even the contents are being gathered, stored and processed automatically in very advanced ways. Just think about the detailed image that this generates of your professional and private life. How much is there to know about you that has not been communicated through some digital medium at some point in time? And how much has been communicated in such a way although it demands privacy? All of this becomes even more disturbing if you think about the future. The aggregated personal profiles can be stored for indefinite amounts of time. Server capacities grow as fast as the amounts of data. From year to year everybody becomes more transparent to the secret services. This amount of knowledge comes with great power. It is foreseeable that it is going to be abused at a large scale eventually. Search the internet for "FinFisher Arab Spring" to see some examples of what that might mean and keep in mind that FinFisher provides nothing compared to the capabilities of the NSA. And then there is the chilling effect. If every citizen knows, that he is under surveillance this inhibits free speech and undermines the concept of free democratic states. The fact that this surveillance is paid by tax dollars (52,6 billion dollars in 2011) gives the whole matter a cynical coating. I have no trust at all in politics to overcome this complete surveillance. The most effective thing we can do at this point in time is to use as much cryptography as possible. The only problem is that both ends have to use the same cryptographic protocol and that's where things become difficult. We need widely accepted software solutions. People need to develop a sensibility for the issue and they need to be willing to sacrifice some convenient features (like cloud synchronization with password recovery) to gain privacy back. Unfortunately, it does not seem that this is going to happen any time soon. The Snowden disclosures have had their impact but still many people willingly exhibit sensible personal information in ridiculous amounts without considering this problematic at all. On a side note: Putin reigns like a dictator and is a homophobic or at least allied with homophobics. Currently the maximal number of participants in a legal demonstration in Russia is one and anybody who talks positively about homosexuality in public is considered criminal. |
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| zelda4evr | Oct 18 2013, 12:02 AM Post #2857 |
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I read somewhere that windows 8 laptops have a new chip that grants the NSA a very easy to access back door to the pc, and basically lets them remote view anything you may even type into notepad. Also if you google search things like, Marijuana, sick, hurricane or anything else in their list you become highlighted. The only problem with coming up with an encrypted or protected system, is that simply discussing it lets it be discovered. Did you hear about that guy that uncovered the NSA because he was using TOR network and noticed he was being tracked and all his personal info was being viewed, he is now accepted in Russia and got some sort of award for directly confronting the NSA and will probably never return to America. TOR prevents you from being tracked, it creates anonymity but they can tell when you're using it, just not what you're doing. And yes I am very aware(afraid?) of freedom of speech. It feels more like sarcasm, like, " go ahead, say what you want and we may or may not punish you for it". The fact that they can turn the phone in my pocket on and access the hardware on it to listen in on a conversation in the room that I'm not even using the phone for scares me. |
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| alexmach1 | Oct 18 2013, 12:30 AM Post #2858 |
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the NSA does not use a keyword system, as tested by multiple people multiple times. the original purpose of the NSA was to supply authorities with info collected on suspects to provide the most accurate leads on a crime so as not to convict the wrong person. there's literally nothing they can do to stop you from saying whatever you want about our government; as long as no one reports you to the authorities you will almost never become a person of interest. the whole entire "list of words we can't say" thing is simple scaremongering by the media. |
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| zelda4evr | Oct 18 2013, 01:44 AM Post #2859 |
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I wish I could find links to the same stuff I saw edit: even though i may not have all the facts, I can tell you what scares me is the fact that if we wanted to overthrow the government we couldn't unless the entire military personnel decided to do it at once. Back in the day the government and armies had the same technology and tools as the people, so there was more respect when a group said they were gonna take action. Sure we may have militias with armor piercing rounds, but the government has stealth bombers, unmanned drones, and a whole lot of man power. Edited by zelda4evr, Oct 18 2013, 04:50 AM.
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| alexmach1 | Oct 18 2013, 05:41 AM Post #2860 |
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then don't overthrow the government. go for an impeachment, nominate someone better suited for the job or, even better, advise the voters as to what they're dealing with. you'd be surprised at all the stupid reasons people choose to vote. |
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| Gandalf20000 | Oct 18 2013, 05:49 AM Post #2861 |
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I don't know, I'm not convinced the NSA actually tracks everything we do as much as the media implies. If they did, TSA agents wouldn't be scanning old ladies in wheelchairs at the airport for bombs. Besides, the government doesn't need to inhibit free speech; most of the major news networks are so politically biased that unwanted disagreements can be prevented just by making sure the right news companies are reporting on a particular story. Extremists on both sides of the political spectrum make ridiculous statements every day, and the only censure they experience is that of dismissal and ridicule by the American people. Incidents like the Westborough Baptist Church protesting at military funerals are enough evidence of this. As long as they aren't trespassing, nonviolent protest, however stupid the cause may be, is legal. Ironically, the government shutdown is also evidence of free speech. Harry Reid and Obama got up there every day to scream, "It's all the Republicans' fault!" while Ted Cruz and John Boehner screamed, "It's all the Democrats' fault!" The shutdown ended today largely because Congressional and presidential approval ratings are in the toilet, not because Obama secretly ordered the FBI or the NSA to blackmail every dissenting Congressman. This is not to say American politicians aren't corrupt, since most of them are. However, widespread martial law and censorship are not feasible until bribery and pork barrel legislation cease to be useful (which is likely to be never). And the most convincing evidence of all that free speech infringement is a crock: come visit Texas sometime. If you look at the average redneck's truck, it almost always has at least one of these things: a Confederate flag, a cross or some other expression of religious beliefs, a sticker either promoting the NRA or depicting a gun, or an endorsement for a Republican politician. If you want to test this further, you can also take a look at the other side of the political spectrum by examining a militant vegetarian's or a crazy hipster's car: it will usually contain an endorsement for a Democratic politician, a statement of how evil meat eaters are, a promotion for the local organic health food store, and/or a sticker promoting gay rights. |
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| zelda4evr | Oct 18 2013, 06:53 AM Post #2862 |
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If they were tracking us very well, most criminals couldn't succeed. I heard what was supposed to be an actual order from a police chief or whatever to his patrols over radio that in Minnesota if anyone has a political bumper sticker opposing Obamas campaign that they are to be approached as a terrorist. I drove into Minnesota once and the welcome sign says, welcome to the #1 state in vote fraud. I'm just curious what Obama is going to try to accomplish before his term ends, and how things will change with a new president. People keep making predictions and at least one is going to happen.
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| Gandalf20000 | Oct 18 2013, 07:14 AM Post #2863 |
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Obama is going to keep fighting against a split Congress as he tries to force legislation through as if he's a monarch, not an executive. The shutdown "remedy" only puts it off until January, so expect more squabbles over the budget. Expect more squabbles over illegal immigration. Expect more squabbles over gun control. Expect more squabbles over the health care law half the country doesn't want. Oh, and expect more scandals. Basically, expect more politics from the president who promised transparency and bipartisanship in everything (which has roughly translated into, "Shut up and do what I want"). |
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| RonBurgundy | Oct 18 2013, 08:01 AM Post #2864 |
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Yes the shutdown is over. What happens next fiscal year when we run into the same problem? Raise the debt ceiling so we can suffer even more? Who's to say what next time brings? honestly I'm a little scared. It's hard times bro. Whats that thing called again? Oh yea humor. Edited by RonBurgundy, Oct 18 2013, 08:08 AM.
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| Reikyrr | Oct 18 2013, 02:16 PM Post #2865 |
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Too bad that in quite a few countries encryption is illegal in some way, For example in England you are punishable by law if you encrypt something and you refuse to decrypt it when the police asks you, (Wheter you don't want to, or forgot the password) http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/unitedstates http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/russia http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/netherlands http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/germany http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/china http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/ I wonder who the world is 52,008,809,598,864 dollars in debt to. (US has more than 1/3rd of the world debt) Edited by Reikyrr, Oct 18 2013, 02:16 PM.
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