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| skarik | Jul 29 2010, 05:18 AM Post #1 |
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Post whatever is on your mind at the moment. It doesn't matter what, just post it! |
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| Gandalf20000 | Oct 18 2013, 10:04 PM Post #2866 |
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I can't speak for other countries, but in the US, close to half the debt is owed to the federal reserve and other government functions. That lines up just perfectly with the fact that our government prints off money every time they decide to spend money they don't have. I would imagine other countries are similar, although that's just conjecture. |
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| alexmach1 | Oct 19 2013, 12:39 AM Post #2867 |
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Obama's influence over the entire US government is incredibly small. literally everything he tries is turned down by the republican-controlled house, which was also responsible for the shutdown. if you still believe that Obama is responsible for the shutdown somehow, all you need to see is the final votes for the reopening of the government to see how wrong you are. as for the debt, the reasons why it's so high is because stupid people kept demanding lower taxes and Bush handed them out like candy, and even cut taxes during wartime. he even pulled a political move on a vote for a tax cut to reduce the number of votes required. Obama has no control over the economy, yet somehow people still try to find ways to blame it on him. basic economics. and now that a massive percentage of the american populace is about to retire, the debt is only going to keep rising higher and higher because nothing was ever done to prevent it. we can get out of debt, sure, but only if people think of the overall long-term instead of the individual short-term. |
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| Dr. Best | Oct 19 2013, 01:17 AM Post #2868 |
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There is so much wrong with these statements .
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| Gandalf20000 | Oct 19 2013, 03:23 AM Post #2869 |
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I hate to start a political argument, but please realize that the debt rose approximately $5 trillion during the eight years of Bush's administration. It rose that much during the first four years of Obama's administration, and it hasn't ceased to grow since. The deficit has decreased over the past few years (which isn't hard given the massive deficit in 2009), but most economists predict that it will start to increase again. If Social Security and Medicare had been used as intended (basically as a retirement fund and medical insurance for retirees), they would be solvent and we wouldn't have the impending retiree crisis. However, the programs have been expanded and modified and borrowed from such that they're spiraling out of control and will likely never be in the black again. The only other point I will contend is a logical fallacy you seem to have used: according to you, Bush handed out tax cuts. However, you say the president has no control over the economy, so Obama can't be blamed for a lousy economy. These statements are contradictory. Either Bush personally made tax cuts, which would imply Obama has some control over the economy as our current president, or Obama has no control over the economy, which would also imply that tax cuts during the Bush administration cannot be attributed to him. I won't argue with your other comments because they are more opinion than fact, which makes having a reasonable debate unlikely. |
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| alexmach1 | Oct 19 2013, 05:19 AM Post #2870 |
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Obama has little to no influence over the economy because he holds a minority in the house; anything he tries to do has to go through the majority, which is the opposing party. Bush, however, held the majority and could basically pass what he wanted because, believe it or not, the general public wanted tax cuts. nothing contradictory in that at all. I think this is a tight enough community that any argument we have won't devolve into mudslinging. Edited by alexmach1, Oct 19 2013, 05:22 AM.
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| Gandalf20000 | Oct 19 2013, 08:58 AM Post #2871 |
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Remember that Obama himself agreed those tax cuts should be extended. He has also gotten most of what he wants in spite of House opposition. The majority is slim enough that there are almost always enough Republican Congressmen willing to jump ship just to end the fighting. However, public opinion has not been kind to either the president or Congress. A majority of Americans think every single member of Congress should be replaced, and Obama's poll numbers have hit the same level as Bush's at his lowest. In my personal opinion, the shutdown is the fault of both parties and the White House. The Republicans could have picked a better strategy to fight Obamacare and the budget crisis, but the Democrats refused to negotiate. Every day featured Senator Reid screaming, "NO!" at anything the Republicans proposed. In fact, since Obamacare rolled out anyway (using funds from Medicare, I might add), it's much more likely the issue at hand was trying to get a real budget ironed out to prevent having to raise the debt ceiling again. It was agreed from the beginning that the debt ceiling needed to be raised, but the Republicans didn't want it to be raised without cutting spending to prevent raising it again, which was an excellent opportunity to target the healthcare law. All of these idiot politicians need to go. They keep focusing on the symptoms, not the problems. For example: the economy is in the dumps. People are broke, so giving them money will help them buy stuff to stimulate the economy. Unfortunately, once the money runs out, most people haven't increased their standard buying power, and the economy collapses again. The housing market is a perfect example of this. Random Joe decides he wants to buy a house, but can't really afford it. A public loan program (partnered with the federal government) decides this isn't fair, and gives him a loan anyway. Joe can't afford the payments and gets foreclosed on, and the federal government just lost money because the loan program just lost money. However, if you loan/give money to businesses or programs (such as through a development contract) capable of expanding and using the funds to create sustainable jobs, the economy will be able to continue running, even once funding runs out. Something has been produced that may be useful for more than just its original purpose (see NASA for plenty of examples), and so it stimulates production, not just retail. In other words, investment works, handouts don't. Healthcare is a similar situation. There are millions of people without health insurance. So, we'll just mandate that everyone buy health insurance and give subsidies to make it more affordable. Well, that sort of works, but it doesn't do anything to account for the fact that insurance is expensive because healthcare is expensive. Giving the money to the insurance companies doesn't make healthcare cheaper because the insurance companies aren't the ones setting the prices for medical procedures and medicine. It makes it appear cheaper to the consumer, but it doesn't hide the fact that the healthcare costs are continuing to rise. I don't know enough about the healthcare industry to state what might reduce the cost of medical care, but I know that trying to increase the insurance base to encourage lower premiums will only work for so long. Whatever the solution is, I'm sure it's a top-down approach similar to investing, rather than the bottom-up approach of throwing money somewhat in the direction of the problem and hoping it goes away. The same logic applies to our education system. The US spends more money per student than any other nation in the world. However, a quick visit to the comment section of any American news site or social media website quickly shows that more money doesn't equal better education. As a wonderful example, we'll use my (not so long ago) high school days. A few years ago, the school district was going through a massive budget shortfall thanks to the economic collapse (it took much longer to hit Texas than some other places). The school, much to their delight I'm sure, had been given a grant (how old it was, who knows). What was this grant for? New computers? New textbooks? Study guides for all AP students? Giving performance reviews on questionable teachers? How about redecorating the perfectly acceptable cafeteria? I rest my case. |
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| Despellanion | Nov 6 2013, 09:54 PM Post #2872 |
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I got a new setup.
Edited by Despellanion, Nov 6 2013, 09:54 PM.
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| RonBurgundy | Nov 11 2013, 07:31 AM Post #2873 |
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@Desp Lol! Never seen a monitor angled like that, that's a good idea though for programming, or if your mailbox is full of spam! |
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| Despellanion | Nov 11 2013, 03:44 PM Post #2874 |
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Yeah, I bought 2 monitors specifically for the purpose of coding on one side (portrait mode) and design on the other (landscape mode). You can still use the portrait view for other things. Browsing through YouTube comments and forums is a breeze
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| zelda4evr | Nov 21 2013, 04:58 AM Post #2875 |
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googles strategy http://i2.wp.com/memecollection.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/h7mpdq4.gif?w=900 |
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| Reikyrr | Nov 21 2013, 03:07 PM Post #2876 |
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Haha so true |
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| Despellanion | Nov 21 2013, 03:52 PM Post #2877 |
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Yeah, well it seems to have paid of since everyone is automatically using Google+ now. So they have the last laugh. The only thing I don't like about it is that the new YouTube comment system doesn't make any sense. I have no idea from where the comments come from, what they are replies to and why I am not allowed to reply to some of them on my own videos. |
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| alexmach1 | Nov 22 2013, 01:58 AM Post #2878 |
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comments are now organized by upvotes rather than post date, and any comments posted before the update cannot be replied to except your own. on the plus side, it looks as though(on my side) rewinding on certain videos no longer rebuffers the whole thing. |
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| Reikyrr | Nov 26 2013, 12:34 PM Post #2879 |
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Forum God
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It's a sad day, when spam bots are more active than actual users. |
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| Dr. Best | Nov 26 2013, 01:57 PM Post #2880 |
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True that. I suppose it would take some cool new release to revive this forum. Too bad that I don't have the time to prepare one .
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