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2010 Season; Combined Competition
Topic Started: Jan 4 2010, 06:44 PM (37,365 Views)
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disco stu
May 10 2010, 04:15 PM
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May 10 2010, 01:21 PM
Draw for the new Sydney shield comp is up on the NSWRL site to commence next weekend with East Cambelltown listed to play Winsor
Bundy cup easts or group 6 easts ?? I think this shield comp is the reserve grade for Bundy Cup, correct me if im wrong
GO EASTS
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Any see the scores from the weekend?
2 losses in a row for City, and a big loss this time round to thirlmere? Anyone see?
East Campbelltown beaten by Mittagong. Oakdale played Mitta last week and they showed no potential (Mitta).
What is going on?
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tc6_11
May 10 2010, 05:07 PM
Any see the scores from the weekend?
2 losses in a row for City, and a big loss this time round to thirlmere? Anyone see?
East Campbelltown beaten by Mittagong. Oakdale played Mitta last week and they showed no potential (Mitta).
What is going on?
Mossy flogged Picton 40-8 in firsts and 32-8 in reserves,Picton arent the powerhouse side like they were last year, lost some handy players. The Oaks beat Ingleburn in firsts and lost to collies in reserves.
Edited by disco stu, May 10 2010, 05:19 PM.
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watched the game between City and Thirlmere, the first half was a contest but sadly after that it all fell apart for City must admit if it were not for Leo in the Thirlmere squad they too would have been completely lost.
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East Campbelltown v Windsor A grade, yes it's happening, to what extreme will it effect the group 6 side is yet to be seen, the club has asked questions regarding the group 6 competition but have had no answers, what other option does East have, Will this new competition be the future for East?
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May 10 2010, 08:45 PM
watched the game between City and Thirlmere, the first half was a contest but sadly after that it all fell apart for City must admit if it were not for Leo in the Thirlmere squad they too would have been completely lost.
yep dynevor kicked city off the park was to smart
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May 10 2010, 09:25 PM
East Campbelltown v Windsor A grade, yes it's happening, to what extreme will it effect the group 6 side is yet to be seen, the club has asked questions regarding the group 6 competition but have had no answers, what other option does East have, Will this new competition be the future for East?
What questions would that be?? Must be serious if they want to leave or is it a storm in a teacup? :dunno: Maybe this new competiton would be better for them especially as they wont have to worry about portability rules, but where would that leave their minor grades??
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All Saints and Narellan had a tougher game than the score might suggest. All Saints were made to pay for handling errors in the first half and at one stage were down 24-0 but these kids do not give up and came out in the second half fired up and won the second half 14-8. Again silly errors cost them points against them. Some awesome hits from All Saints front rower Matt Blunden made the crowd stand up more than once and younger brother Tim did the same.

Photo's from the match can be seen at the link below in the photo gallery.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?c=7-1126-19707-72974-0
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I'll agree with that, i am really suprised that All Saints haven't won a game yet. They hit hard, they run good strong lines, and they dont give in. They offered a lot more than mittagong or ingleburn, yet Mittagong had a win on the weekend. The form is all over the place, apart from Oakdale and Thirlmere
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disco stu
May 11 2010, 09:21 AM
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May 10 2010, 09:25 PM
East Campbelltown v Windsor A grade, yes it's happening, to what extreme will it effect the group 6 side is yet to be seen, the club has asked questions regarding the group 6 competition but have had no answers, what other option does East have, Will this new competition be the future for East?
What questions would that be?? Must be serious if they want to leave or is it a storm in a teacup? :dunno: Maybe this new competiton would be better for them especially as they wont have to worry about portability rules, but where would that leave their minor grades??
East's are not leaving the combined comp. The Bundy Reserve side is going to be made up of players who arent playing Bundy that week and excess players that the club has.

And the questions i guess would have been about eligibility for these players.
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Some interesting reading ( food for thought )'



We've been Melbourne Stormed': Oakdale stripped of points
BY SEAN CUNNINGHAM
05 May, 2010 09:45 AM
OAKDALE is a club in crisis following last week's decision to strip eight competition points from the Group 6/Wests rugby league first grade team for breaching the player points tally.

This is the equivalent of the NRL's salary cap.


Unbeaten in six rounds of the competition, Oakdale had the competition points taken from them for the opening four games for exceeding their quota of 300 player points for first grade and reserves combined.


Unlike other Group 6/Wests clubs, Oakdale has no junior teams, so they have to rely on signing players from within the group or from other competitions, which racks up their points tally at an alarming rate.


In the local competition, the points system deems an overseas, NRL or Jim Beam Cup player to be worth 40 points; a player signed from within Group 6 is worth 25 points; a representative player at region, division or group level is worth 20 points; a player from outside Group 6 is worth 10 points and a locally developed player and local players returning to their junior club is worth two points.


The same player points tally rule imposed on Oakdale is not applied to Wests' clubs playing in the same competition. Oakdale coach Brendon Reeves said: ``we've been Melbourne Stormed.''


``The players are absolutely ropable and shattered,'' Reeves said.


``If the current powers that be don't give us reasonable concessions the blood will be on their hands; we could be finished as a club.


``For a player at Oakdale to be considered a local player worth two points, he has to be with us for three years, yet it's only a year for the Campbelltown clubs that's not a level playing field.


``Group 6/Wests committee better be in for a fight, because that's what we're going to give them.''


The group's secretary Warren Horsfield explained how the player points system differed for the Campbelltown-based clubs.


``They (Wests clubs) were not playing under the points system last year,'' Horsfield said.


``The ruling regarding points for Wests clubs is if any player from 2009 season returns and registers with the same club for season 2010, he is deemed a two-point player unless he attracts a 40-point category.''

Thirlmere/Tahmoo r coach Noel Wood said Oakdale knew the rules at the start of the season, but realises it's difficult ``to operate'' without drawing from any junior teams.

``Oakdale have been true supporters of Group 6 for as long as I can remember,'' Wood said. ``I seem to find Group 6 management is doing everything in their powers to help the Campbelltown clubs.''

Many of the Group 6/Wests first grade coaches agreed Oakdale had been harshly treated due to their circumstances having no junior teams to draw on. Oakdale plan to appeal the decision.


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I guess players travelling to oakdale to train and play for a 3 year ,and more commitment has probably been too much for some hence the high turnover of different players. Its probably why outside their core group of players , they haven't accrued too many 2 point players. I remembered they had an u/18 side in 2006 what has happened to most of these young blokes???
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Considerring the population of Oakdale and the closure of the majority of mining operations out there, its an impressive effort that they are even able to field an A-grade side.
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At present Oakdale have 6 of those 2006/2007 under 18's boys on their roster, 5 are in reserve grade and only 3 of them play regularly. Only 1 of them plays first grade (Lachlan Gray). The rest either quit football or moved on to other clubs. Russell Odgers is at The Oaks, Ben Baker is back at Narellan, and several others are in Narellan Reserve Grade. Oakdale does have a large amount of 2 point players, it's just the fact that if you have 8 players leave the club in a year, you are up for 200 points to replace them. Hardly seems fair if you don't have under 18's coming through to take their place. Oakdale had 6 first graders leave this year, and if you look at their team for this year, there are only 2 names in that team that weren't part of the Oakdale squad last year, Them being Graeme Martin (Who played with Oakdale from 2004-2008, and only left the club due to a disagreement with the coach of the time), and Glynn Bester (Who was taught at School by Brendan Reeves).
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Players come and go every year and with no jnrs to draw they have to come from somewhere?? Surely someone will give the workers a break??

Chin up lads
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I was told by a Group 6 official that Oakdale can draw from another neighbouring clubs 18's and they would only be 2 point players. ( i am unsure which club he said though, somebody maybe able to clarify which team )
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the oaks?
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The under 18's thing is untrue. The only club Oakdale can get 2 point under 18's from, is the Oaks, on the provision that the player is an Oakdale local. It does not build good harmony among the clubs if Oakdale are pinching their juniors
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Your reply still confirms my comment to be "True"

Please dont get me wrong, i am not on any side in this debate but I believe in an open forum all the details should be told.
Edited by Maverick, May 14 2010, 08:18 AM.
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Even if Oakdale can get 2 point players from The Oaks, I know for fact that The Oaks JRLFC
do not have Under 16s this year and only just have numbers in 15s & 14s, therefore i cannot see
this will help Oakdales fight to survive past this season.
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