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2010 Season; Combined Competition
Topic Started: Jan 4 2010, 06:44 PM (37,357 Views)
Highlander
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Im sure he will get paid next year if he is that good though
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Jun 30 2010, 02:13 PM
charlie boy
Jun 27 2010, 10:59 PM
the way they keep playin i thing they deserve to win it galahs there a great side. there props r the best in the comp ive seen to be honest
Oakdale may have good props and so do Mossvale but I have been asking around for other opinions on this topic and after playing all sides but Mittagong I still believe that one of the best props in the comp plays for All Saints and doesn't get paid for it. Matt Blunden would be one of the hardest hitting prop forwards I have seen in this and other competitions and have not seen anyone this year come off best in a man for man hit. He plays for 80 minutes most games and hates coming off. Ask any of the highly paid boys that have played against him what they think of the guy in the blue head gear who turns up to train and play all the time and doesn't get a dollar to play.

I wonder if the top sides forwards would still be there if somebody said there was no money?
Much respect to Matt Blunden because i have played against him, and he does hit pretty well, and does give his all, but so too does a guy like Nigel Plum, and i wouldn't say he is one of the best. Do you think a guy like David Lowe or Matt McBeth from Oakdale is getting the figures that someone like Jayden Merchant from Thirlmere is getting? I have nothing to do with the Moss Vale club, but even Elliot Esquillant wouldn't be getting much cash, i think. Put it this way, i know the Picton players didn't get all their match payments last year, and their front row stayed true.
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Yeah but alot of players from Picton did leave! At the end of the day if there was no money involved we at Bowral would have alot more players than we do we had atleast 8 players come down this year and wanted to play for us this year but due to money (we dont pay) they went elsewhere and you can't blame them $100 and upwards a win or game is good cash for young men trying to get ahead in life.
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In respect to most local players from most clubs that I have spoken with this year it seems as though payments to local players has dropped considerably from previous years with most players opting to loose a little cash in order to free up a little money to allow their clubs to buy a marquet player or two. I think players might be starting to realise their is not an endless pit of money behind clubs and that if they want to play football this is what their club can afford. I dont believe there is a club in the comp that doesnt want to give its local players more they simply just cant afford it.
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Its all about economics. Clubs earn revenue thru sponsorship, gate ,doubles,raffles,fundraisers,functions etc. As clubs are registered as a non for profit organisations money earnt is put back and dispersed into the club to pay consumables, overheads, insurances etc . After all this players are paid at the clubs discretion and affordability. With the economic downturn in recent years sponsorship has decreased so therefore player payments have dropped , you'll find most players would be just happy to have money to cover out of pocket expenses such as fuel for travel to away games. I know that a few mossy players handed their cheques back to the club at last years presentation night , a rare thing this day an age but it says alot about those players. :clap:
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Jun 30 2010, 02:55 PM
Maverick
Jun 30 2010, 02:13 PM
charlie boy
Jun 27 2010, 10:59 PM
the way they keep playin i thing they deserve to win it galahs there a great side. there props r the best in the comp ive seen to be honest
Oakdale may have good props and so do Mossvale but I have been asking around for other opinions on this topic and after playing all sides but Mittagong I still believe that one of the best props in the comp plays for All Saints and doesn't get paid for it. Matt Blunden would be one of the hardest hitting prop forwards I have seen in this and other competitions and have not seen anyone this year come off best in a man for man hit. He plays for 80 minutes most games and hates coming off. Ask any of the highly paid boys that have played against him what they think of the guy in the blue head gear who turns up to train and play all the time and doesn't get a dollar to play.

I wonder if the top sides forwards would still be there if somebody said there was no money?
Much respect to Matt Blunden because i have played against him, and he does hit pretty well, and does give his all, but so too does a guy like Nigel Plum, and i wouldn't say he is one of the best. Do you think a guy like David Lowe or Matt McBeth from Oakdale is getting the figures that someone like Jayden Merchant from Thirlmere is getting? I have nothing to do with the Moss Vale club, but even Elliot Esquillant wouldn't be getting much cash, i think. Put it this way, i know the Picton players didn't get all their match payments last year, and their front row stayed true.
As this is our first year in your comp I cant argue your point. And in the "games that I" have watched maybe these players you mentioned didn't stand out as much as they normally do. But do players from the lower graded sides even get a look at as far as Rep Selections for Group 6. I noticed no Campbelltown or lower graded sides got any players selected. (and maybe there was nobody better, but were they considered?)
There are good players in lower graded sides that do not have as much talent around them that the top sides do, and having good players around you can make you look a lot better.

I still think Matt Blunden is up there and the Youtube link below should attest to that.
http://www.youtube.com/user/blundens
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Jul 1 2010, 12:50 PM
But do players from the lower graded sides even get a look at as far as Rep Selections for Group 6. I noticed no Campbelltown or lower graded sides got any players selected. (and maybe there was nobody better, but were they considered?)
Picton are near the bottom of the ladder and they had about 6 in the group 6 side so to answer your question lower sides on the ladder do get a look in. Campbelltown players were selected initially for the squad mainly from city and easts but as i mentioned in an older post maybe they had to step down due to work ,family or other commitments.
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Jul 1 2010, 02:10 PM
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Jul 1 2010, 12:50 PM
But do players from the lower graded sides even get a look at as far as Rep Selections for Group 6. I noticed no Campbelltown or lower graded sides got any players selected. (and maybe there was nobody better, but were they considered?)
Picton are near the bottom of the ladder and they had about 6 in the group 6 side so to answer your question lower sides on the ladder do get a look in. Campbelltown players were selected initially for the squad mainly from city and easts but as i mentioned in an older post maybe they had to step down due to work ,family or other commitments.
Look at the makeup of the coaching staff and the selectors.
Last year Geoff Thomson (Oakdale 2007-2009) was the coach and there were initially 3 Oakdale players picked, by the time players pulled out and were injured, Geoff filled them with Oakdale players, and i think there were 6 by the game.
Unfortunately for Matt, until All Saints start winning games, or he decides to come out to a Group 6 club, i don't think he will get a start in a rep jersey.
You guys at All Saints, being based at Liverpool should be able to pay your players.
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The thing that really amazes me about group 6 comp is the support you country guys get from your local business's. We are the only side playing from the Liverpool area which would be much larger than any of your country towns, yet we struggle to get local business support, or should I say enough support to have enough money to pay our players. Every time I drive into an away game I wonder how, with the demographical size of the area that you guys do it, but you do. Your local support is to be commended and with time I hope our local support will be as good and we can pay our players.
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I was told tonight that the Cambelltown players come under West's and are not eligible for group 6 reps as they are not classed as country options.

Can any body confirm or deny this?

This would really suck if true as this leaves our guys in limbo, not being eligible for country and where can they go with Wests?
Edited by Maverick, Jul 2 2010, 12:12 AM.
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We had three players selected in the G6 rep team at C'town City. Two of the boys withdrew because of injury and the other trained-on but didn't make the final team. Our boys were stoked to be originally selected. So the whole competition is eligible.
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Jul 2 2010, 12:05 AM
I was told tonight that the Cambelltown players come under West's and are not eligible for group 6 reps as they are not classed as country options.

Can any body confirm or deny this?

This would really suck if true as this leaves our guys in limbo, not being eligible for country and where can they go with Wests?
But you play under the NSWRL not CRL.

Why the NSWRL local districts dont play each other i dont know! they should have a interdistrict rep scene where Wests Jnrs take on Parra or cronulla districts and so on maybe a knockout or round robin.. then you could have a wests vs Group 6 game everyear for charity or somthing!!
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Highlander i'm astounded at your response to Maverick, if we play as a joint competition surely all players should be eligible for a rep team chosen by the group. If players from Liverpool and Campbelltown are not eligible why may i ask are they playing in the same competition? the only body that offers Representative reward for efforts during any season be it bias in selection or not then discards these players in my humble opinion it's a total disgrace if indeed this be the case. Was it not the NSWRL and CRL who encouraged this joint competition?

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I guess that comes down to the "joint" in joint competition. The whole thing was rushed through pretty quickly, and alot of the smaller things - like representative selection, were overlooked. For the most part, Wests are just playing in the Group 6 comp, because Group 6 already had an established senior structure.
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Maybe its time the two districts combined under 1 single management.
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Jul 2 2010, 09:38 AM
We had three players selected in the G6 rep team at C'town City. Two of the boys withdrew because of injury and the other trained-on but didn't make the final team. Our boys were stoked to be originally selected. So the whole competition is eligible.
Guys, campbelltown players were eligible and made selection but in the end werent in the final make up of the squad, there were plenty of campbelltown players in the u/18 rep squad when they played earlier in the year as well. Orana 87 explained why the city players didnt make the cut , we're procrastinating over nothing .
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Camden nite im only saying whats is told to me!!! I was told it came under registrations and insurance. im only a supporter im not on group 6 committee or anything.

And yes it was the NSWRL and CRL who pushed for this merger as it was NOT the clubs!!!! And you should be happy with it as it has ressurected a dead local league!!

and galahs you are correct until the group 6 and wests merge the committee the merger will not reach its potential.
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Highlander i'm delighted at the level of football that is being played however i firmly believe that the chaps from Campbelltown and Liverpool should be included in selection within the groups representative side, we in the group are currently enjoying a higher level of football than previously played hence the reason for all players to be rewarded equally and yes it's about time that the divide was done away with.
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Mate i think it would be great to get those boys involved maybe then Group 6 could once again be a force in the country carnival and maybe one day get up there with the illawarras and newcastle divisions of the world.
Maybe the comp should be run like as a division like the above comps?
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Highlander well said i'm sure you have the support of many in that regard.
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