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2010 Season; Combined Competition
Topic Started: Jan 4 2010, 06:44 PM (37,375 Views)
Highlander
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I agree an even $5 makes sense.

I was told its ctown citys 3rds v bowrals 3rds (could be wrong) on friday nite.

Bowral are close to having enough numbers for 2 sides They picked up a few players from robbo which has helped there cause. :correct: :yeah:

Mittagong looked like they have a decent side for 2010 after watching them play bowral on Satday nite. very good crowd for trial aswell. :clap:

Robertson may have an U18s play in group 6 have heard this a few times unsure if true. But would be nice to see em back. :clap:
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Blue Devil
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Does anyone know the rules for the 2010 season, is there a point system? Can wests clubs pay players, I hear there is an examption for all Wests clubs on the point system because they can't pay, is that true? Does anyone know anything official!
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Blue Devil
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Sorry felahs, been busy I havnt added many posts, but getting in the grove for footy, watched All Saints V East, All Saints are young and fresh and when they get there players from S.G Ball, as long as they bleed them in 1st Grade, and don't waste the tallent in 18's they will go well, for East, Holly do-do they have the biggest pack I've ever seen, they hit hard and look mobile, City looks strong at training, havnt heard much about Collies, Camden got hammered by Thiroul, but they are a good side, Picton have lost a couple due to retirement but will be interesting when they play City pre season, looking like a great season, wish everyone well
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Citys reserve grade touched Bowral up last nite Bowral where missing a few players but City looked good.
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The group 6 clubs have been told that all clubs - wests & group 6 - are playing under the points system. No club is getting an exemption. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
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Blue Devil
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a review of the weekend trials, Bulldogs played All Saints and won but not many numbers at Bulldogs and they will struggle for two teams, All Saints on the right track but are considering 2nd 3rd grade, Bulldogs also considering res grade, Minto played City and done well against a star studded side which consisted of Ron Jones, Damien Kennedy and coach Kevin McGuiness looking on, Macquarie Fields will be the Valley of 2009, and will smash everyone in 3rd grade, they looked good and again will see a uneven competition in DNC, Collies played Warriors before the game getting called 15 minutes into the game due to the weaher, both teams will be 3rd grade at the best. but will the point system affect all clubs. East had a weekend off, but Bundy Cup will be a handful for teams in there competition defeating Bulls but showing a wealth of young exciting talent, good year for them coming up, Looking good for all League supporters, we will see some memorable games for 2010
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What do you fellow bloggers think of this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have 1 team you must play first grade ????

Why i think this should be the case is to prevent an injustice to clubs who should be rewarded for having more than 1 team i.e having the numbers to fill 2 or 3 sides which lets them breed talent for future years and not be bashed around by a big side who enter 3rd or 2nd just for the sake of winning a premership.

the floor is yours what you think ????????????????????????? :cstars:
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Brownie you cant do that!!
I agree clubs have got to stop putting there sides in easier grades but putting all clubs in that basket would kill of clubs ie Appin, Warragamba and Bowral in group 6 could fold!!!

Maybe have all teams watched over the 1sts few weeks if anyclub stands out push em up!!!!! it happerns in jnrs

In the end a source of mine said if clubs keep doing like Collies and Valley continue there club would look elsewhere and there not alone Robbertson dont want to return due to this.

Im sorry guys but the merger is only good for 1 area ATM
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What do you fellow bloggers think of this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have 1 team you must play first grade ????

Why i think this should be the case is to prevent an injustice to clubs who should be rewarded for having more than 1 team i.e having the numbers to fill 2 or 3 sides which lets them breed talent for future years and not be bashed around by a big side who enter 3rd or 2nd just for the sake of winning a premership.

the floor is yours what you think ????????????????????????? :cstars:
Totally agree, not only can they stack their sides with first grade players they dont have the constant drain of players being dragged up to First Grade to fill in for injured players. I do believe however if a team wants to enter the first grade comp then it should be mandatory that they also fill a reserve grade team. If they cant field both then they go back to 3rd grade with restrictions on player quality and numbers being imposed on these sides. If clubs can field competetive 1st and reserve grade sides in this type of competition they should be rewarded by having a level playing field and competing against other clubs that are facing similar issues as them such as player numbers, and costs involved in fielding 2 or more sides.

Last years reserve grade competition was a good example of this, whilst Green Valley was a very good football side for them to go through undefeated in a reserve grade comp was crazy. They seem to have an endless supply of quality players while other clubs particularly later in the season where trying to scrape together a side that could compete when half their players were on the side line injured and the other half were playing first grade to cover for their injured players. Having said this it was far from being Green Valleys fault and the competition administrators have hopefully learnt from this.
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Just in reply to Blue devil and Mac Fields DNC...the team is made up of guys in 2 age catorgories 1 being a core group of 19 yr olds from 18s last year mixed in with a group of guys ranging from 30-40 with no other ambitions other then helping out some younger kids come through and play for thier local side and stay in the area to play thier footy and are willing to go up a grade if the numbers are thier or even enter 2 sides...the game against All saints was fairly even and most of the guys that played were 18-19 with a few older heads to help out nothing remotly near stacking a side to win a comp just a bunch of blokes looking to have a run and helping rebuild a club at senior level to may be in 2-3 years compete at 1st grade...most Wests senior clubs are in rebuilding stages and im sure if they could field 2 sides of 1st-reserves standard they would but it takes time and with the concept of the combined comp hopefully local kids stay loyal to their club and all sides in a few years can all have strong senoir sides making for a better comp in all grades-i agree that if a side is winning a lower grade and demolishing sides then they go up to the next grade after a few weeks but until you gage this its hard to put a grade on a 1 side club before a few rounds are played.
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Yeh you are right Rookie in what you are saying, but we need to find another way around some clubs playing there best players while other clubs are playing there third teer players, good on mac fields and other clubs For building, but it needs to be monitored so super teams like valley don't ruin the season for everyone trying to compete in a Res grade
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From the Liverpool end: All Saints ran last in the 2008 Wests A Grade competition with a record of played 15, lost 15, scored 66 points & conceded over 850 points. Former Canterbury Bulldogs SG Ball Coach Alan Fry was asked to coach a bunch of kids that had come mainly to play under 20's (this age group scrapped after Wests & Group 6 combined). History shows that All Saints lost to Collegians in the 2009 Grand Final which was a great achievement. The club decided to aim higher in 2010. A Senior Teams Executive Committee was formed and set about building for a possible step up to the Group 6/Wests 1st Grade/Reserve Grade. This is no easy task, when you have just across the creek, licensed clubs like Cabramatta & Mounties supporting their junior rugby league clubs. Currently All Saints has sufficient players for two senior teams and an under 18's. All Saints top side have played East Campbelltown (lost 8 tries to 2 tries) & Ingleburn Bulldogs (lost 5 tries to 2 tries). Games were played in 15 minute quarters due to the heat. All Saints are undecided wether to enter 1st & Resereves Grades or Reserves and 3rd (DNC). Is this too big a step we are asking ourselves at All Saints? This Friday night's Pre-Season games against Moss Vale & Ingleburn Bulldogs will be a real guide to answer that question. Unfortunately there is not much experience in the squad just raw young talent. All Saints is probably the only club that is not paying its players and has recruited from who has just walked thru the gates at Hillier Oval looking for a game of league. Several talented players, after tyre kicking at Hillier Oval, moved on when offered money by other Group 6 clubs. With no match fees both work and family committments also eat into several players training schedules. Fortunately All Saints numbers have been swollen by former juniors who aren't asking to be paid but have returned to the club to play. I'm sure if the combined Group 6/Wests competition is to go from strength to strength a strong club from the Liverpool area playing out of Hillier Oval is a must. Any feedback would be most welcome.

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great to have all saints in 1st grade and reserve grade, even though liverpool was never a part of group 6 before the split, gee liverpool city playing out of hiller oval was a great senior club. many fine games between them and us warriors in the late 80s early 90s before we took the team to appin for better competition in group 6.
liverpool needs a strong 1st division club, good luck all saints, liverpool city proved that it is possible for a strong team to come out of there
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Not entirelly sure if it would work but maybe if there was a second division of sorts it would benefit all teams.

It doesn't benefit anyone to have a side go out there and get beat by plenty week in and week out. Possibly a criteria is if players are being payed they field a first division team and those that are strictly amateur can go into second division or DNC cup whichever is the competition they decide to run.

Obviuosly the hardest thing is to come up with a system that works well for everyone.

This is only my observation but it would seem thet Wests and Group 6 do not have an overall governing body for the competition. This may be something that needs to be looked at. You could even rename the whole thing with some major sponsorship in the campbelltown area and that could possibly bring in some revenue for the competition a little like the illawarra carlton league.
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If there is 12 teams in DNC (ive been told there is) after everyone has played eachother have the comps split into 2divisions of 6(top 6 bottom 6) and you can have a DNC CUP and 2nd Divison cup.
Just an Idea could prevent late season forfiets which happern alot.

Also i have heard rumours about renaming the comp the "Macarthur League"
Edited by Highlander, Mar 4 2010, 03:46 PM.
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Campbelltown Collegians have withdrawn from the Group 6 Pre-Season competition and are only fielding a Reserve Grade (2nds) team and not a 1st Grade team in 2010.
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Geez, that's a shame.

I like your idea Highlander. It would be a good way of grading teams, allowing sides to play different oppositions, but at the business end of the season we would have fairer match ups.
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I think for the sake of making the draw for the 2010 as beneficial for everyone it looks like that there will be alot of unattached teams travelling and playing alongside each other this year, for eg, Ingleburn Bulldogs & Valley did it last year. Thats the only way i can see the competiton will work and not having games being played all over the place and segregation of club teams.

With collegians pulling out of 1st grade it will be interesting who teams up with them.

Edited by disco stu, Mar 5 2010, 10:36 AM.
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hmm mite need to bring in 1st and second divison comps reserve grades for both clubs like east c'town & city can put there true 3rd grade teams into the 2nds reserves
strange why wouldnt collies at least want to see what they could do against picton and city, pulled out of g6 knokout afta winnin 3rd grade last year there coach must prize his winning %'s there comes a time when we all have to face the music
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Last years Collies side could have played 1st grade they would not have won the comp but would have been decent. Dont they get it if sides stack in lower grades the comp will fall apart.
Edited by Highlander, Mar 5 2010, 09:13 PM.
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