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2010 Season; Combined Competition
Topic Started: Jan 4 2010, 06:44 PM (37,344 Views)
oparnz82
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I think the games this weekend set up an exciting days footy, Iam very concerned however about the state of Victoria park at Picton. I have seen first hand the terrible state of the field and With the group allocating both Saturday and Sundays games to Picton, one has to wonder why?? When there are numerous grounds in group 6 and campbelltown that are in much better condition! Fair enough hosting one of the days but two days in a row? on a ground that is in such poor condition and has been for some time makes absolutely no sense to me at all! The teams, players and supporters deserve better, and if the rain keeps up teams might as well play stuck in the mud! Not good enough for such important games.. Why not give Saturdays games to a ground like Camden who hasnt hosted a semi this year and at least give Pictons surface a chance to be half decent for the blockbuster games on Sunday...... That idea seems to make too much sense for the powers to be... Poor planning group 6 :letmesee:
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Any opinions on who will win Coach of the year or 1st, 2nd or 3rd grade player of the year?????
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oparnz82
Sep 9 2010, 05:22 PM
I think the games this weekend set up an exciting days footy, Iam very concerned however about the state of Victoria park at Picton. I have seen first hand the terrible state of the field and With the group allocating both Saturday and Sundays games to Picton, one has to wonder why?? When there are numerous grounds in group 6 and campbelltown that are in much better condition! Fair enough hosting one of the days but two days in a row? on a ground that is in such poor condition and has been for some time makes absolutely no sense to me at all! The teams, players and supporters deserve better, and if the rain keeps up teams might as well play stuck in the mud! Not good enough for such important games.. Why not give Saturdays games to a ground like Camden who hasnt hosted a semi this year and at least give Pictons surface a chance to be half decent for the blockbuster games on Sunday...... That idea seems to make too much sense for the powers to be... Poor planning group 6 :letmesee:
Camden hosted the Grand finals last year so there not missing out thats badly i would have had 1 of the games at Appin or one of the group third grade clubs (Yes this is a biased opinion) but these things can help the smaller clubs grow so they to can oneday be apart of the 1st grade scene.

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Yes definately! Appin would be perfect, among others, just used camden as an example. As for coach of the year in first grade, I think its fairly obvious to all that Brendon Reeves from Oakdale should get the gong, an almost perfect season with a club that had lost 6 regular first graders from last years squad, as well as dealing with the controversy of the stripping of Oakdales points earlier in the year, he is $1.01 to get it and deservedly so.. but I have seen stranger things happen with regards to group 6 awards over the years! Moss Vales Willie Macdonald has done a great job down there as well, but Reeves to win it for mine.. What about player of the year??? There has been some strange winners of this award in the past.......
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Picton should hold the finals this week after being promised the Grand Final and lossing that, it's only fair and the surface couldn't be any different then what clubs have had to put up with all year especially when playing Campbelltown teams. :finger:

The Eagles have in doubt their try scoring machine Craig Moustakas that struggled at training tonight and will surely be out, Sakeasi Rokotabini is out, John Da-Silva and Tom Morrison would be 50/50 and will go through a fitness test on the day, couldnt train tonight and Mazeen Taavili is suspended, there backs will be against the wall! :cry:

Rumour has it, Richard Barnes from the Eagles is coach of the year! :winner:
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if easts campbelltown are at $4 i would get on them to win the comp there great odd lol where do we place the bets footy_g6...but would be a cracker of a GF if oakdale and easts are in there playing for the top prize ...
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My pick for coach of the year is Reeves from Oakdale. Oakdale have lost players from last year
and he has coached them to a near perfect season. And also had to deal with the off field dramas of losing points. Which in my opinion has only made them more determined to go all the way.

Best of luck to the boys from the Workers you have showed a lot of guts and spirit.And i hope you go all the way.
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You spot on about Player of the Year having some strange winners, My pick this year is David Lowe from Oakdale who has had a great season with the added pressure of being the treasurer at Oakdale. In regards to Picton hosting 2 games Blue-Devil you are right Picton were promised the Grand Final this year, and it is the only promise Management have stood by. I also remember that Oakdale are to host it in 2011.
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Sep 10 2010, 06:46 AM
You spot on about Player of the Year having some strange winners, My pick this year is David Lowe from Oakdale who has had a great season with the added pressure of being the treasurer at Oakdale. In regards to Picton hosting 2 games Blue-Devil you are right Picton were promised the Grand Final this year, and it is the only promise Management have stood by. I also remember that Oakdale are to host it in 2011.
David Lowe has had an awesome season, it just goes to show how poor the judges are of this award because he is not in the running.
Here's an example of why,
Oakdale flogged Narellan back in round 13, 54-6.
On the day the standout player was probably David Lowe, but i think the 3 points went to Todd Pes. Now the 2 points didn't even go to an Oakdale player, they went to Ben Baker, how and why i have no idea. If the referees have a token gesture of giving a losing player 2 points, i would have given it to either Daniel Young, or Gavin Wilson, however no Narellan player deserved points on that day, they seemed to not try.
David was awarded 1 point, which is not an indication of his dominance.
Unfortunately our points system is poor, the referee has a tough enough job as it is, let alone remembering how good someone was, and invariably i've found, if you are a captain, or goal kicker, the referee remembers you at the end of the game, and points may go your way.
What's that about Oakdale to host in 2011?
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At a meeting 2 years ago it was drawn out of a hat the Grand Final hosts for the coming years, Camden 2009, Picton 2010 and Oakdale 2011 can not remember the rest, but it would be in the minutes of the meeting. But if the points system stays as is Oakdale will not be in next years comp.
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Sep 10 2010, 08:50 AM
At a meeting 2 years ago it was drawn out of a hat the Grand Final hosts for the coming years, Camden 2009, Picton 2010 and Oakdale 2011 can not remember the rest, but it would be in the minutes of the meeting. But if the points system stays as is Oakdale will not be in next years comp.
If that's the case, we'll sit out the 2011 season, host the GF, and then buy a team full of 10 pointers, like Camden
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Not bagging Camden by the way
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Sep 9 2010, 10:22 PM
The Eagles have in doubt their try scoring machine Craig Moustakas that struggled at training tonight and will surely be out, Sakeasi Rokotabini is out, John Da-Silva and Tom Morrison would be 50/50 and will go through a fitness test on the day, couldnt train tonight and Mazeen Taavili is suspended, there backs will be against the wall! :cry:

I guess we'll see on sunday or is this mind games at work?? :letmesee:
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I do like your way of thinking TC, your club would have at lot of money, but the way i understand the points system by 2012 your player points would be 200, this would give Oakdale only 20 players ( at 10 points). So i hope Oakdale come up with another system to survive.
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Sep 10 2010, 04:04 PM
I do like your way of thinking TC, your club would have at lot of money, but the way i understand the points system by 2012 your player points would be 200, this would give Oakdale only 20 players ( at 10 points). So i hope Oakdale come up with another system to survive.
Merge with The Oaks :correct: if they wish to compete in Group 6 .

I mean this with sincerity and no disrespect as this would be beneficial for rugby league in the burragorang shire. 3 grade sides plus an u/18 side plus and importantly juniors coming thru. More than a sustainable option, but tradition and pride are hard obstacles to overcome for both teams to be a reality.

Once the nucleus of Oakdales team one day retires (lowes,pes,mcbeths etc) then what next ??? What is their plan for the future ??

On a different note i was having a conversation recently in the pub and it came up how Picton actually had another team called the Picton Knights but they didnt play in group 6 down but down in wollongong?? Does anyone remember this ??
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Why should two perfectly okay first grade clubs have to merge????
What for? Because the group have come up with a point system that favors the big clubs in the comp?
All these two clubs want is to be left alone, and don't make life hard for them by making them squeeze under some ridiculous cap number that doesn't suit their area or population.
You would think the management would be trying to HELP them along, or even be praising them for outstanding work over the years.
Just because Oakdale are winning the comp this year doesn't mean they are perennial competition winners. To my knowledge, in their 40 or 50 year existence, they've only ever won the comp once.
The Oaks are in a similar pozzy, having only lifted one cup in the last forty odd years.
No clubs should have to merge just because someone higher-up says so, and if anything, the other clubs in the group should back them up more when they come under unnecessary fire.

let mossvale and bowral merge.
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A bit more.

The salary cap in the NRL is there primarily to protect and help the smaller clubs in their competition.
The group 6 points system, if anything, only seems to hurt the smaller clubs.


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Its only my opinion i think they should merge not from higher up, yes both teams there are going ok now but what about 5-10 years time.

Moss Vale and Bowral dont need to merge, :laughing: far from it, they have both have jnr leagues which is sustainable and will provide players for the future one thing Oakdale havent got.

What "help" should management do here then ??? Like i said once Oakdales main nucleus of players eventually retire what will happen ??
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What they have always done in the past.



And the help would be, make the points system not so savage.
More later.
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Sep 10 2010, 05:17 PM
Why should two perfectly okay first grade clubs have to merge????
What for? Because the group have come up with a point system that favors the big clubs in the comp?
Every team has complied with the points system this year so no one team has had any advantage here except Oakdale which this issue has been dealt with.

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