WE WANT A FAIR GO FOR OUR AREA, MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND MORE THAN 4 NRL GAMES AT CAMPBELLTOWN STADIUM
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| E.A.S.T CTWN | Oct 21 2010, 01:41 PM Post #961 |
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All very interesting comments from everyone, where does this all end? It would seem that there is no body on the fence, battle-lines have been drawn and everyone has settled down into there respective trenches. Am i suprised it has come this far "NO". Can this all be resolved? It would seem not. What happens to all of the key people in all this, people have voted, people have commented, people have taken sides, but i rarely read anything about the key people in all this. Who are the key people you ask? The player's. Where is our say? Most people in key positions have had there day's of football and now continue to volunteer there time, ever so grateful from player's. How do we plan when we do not see an end to all this? |
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| disco stu | Oct 21 2010, 02:38 PM Post #962 |
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Where would you prefer to play Group 6 or Canterbury if the choice was there? Secondly there was an easier way to do things,..................under Group 6, less paperwork,less hassles. |
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| Camden-nite | Oct 21 2010, 07:50 PM Post #963 |
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Disco you are sadly blinded by your bias it's high time you took a deep breath and started to think how or if any resolve can be found in my humble opinion the winners of the past two seasons have been the players and suddenly it is no longer, whats next to be voted on? the demise of say Oakdale or The Oaks or both. |
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| Blue Devil | Oct 22 2010, 07:40 AM Post #964 |
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The good thing about Forums such as this, is everyone can have a say, freedom of speech, yes you talk about players, but the reality is some players have been the result for the down fall of the competition, off field behavour seems to be mentioned alot in local media, now that's not Presidents, or Secretarys involved in that, this does come back to the running of the individual clubs, do they have the resources and people in place that can control senior rugby league? Seniors and Juniors must be seperate, and that's not the case this side of the border, it's not bagging our clubs but our clubs need to get some heavy handed people, not mums and dads of the under 6's running there seniors, just another avenue if the combined comp was to ever survive, reading the local media, there is no chance of that happening, looks like it's back to Wests A Grade
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| disco stu | Oct 22 2010, 10:26 AM Post #965 |
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Camden-Nite ,you claim to have no affiliation or association with any club so why not make waves,write letters,bang fists on the table if your that passionate about the continuation of the combined comp . I can see quite clearly thanx in response to you,at me being biased ,but what your essentially saying also is all group 6 clubs are sadly blinded by bias as well, they did vote unanimously remember! |
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| AllSaints | Oct 22 2010, 01:35 PM Post #966 |
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Blue Devil - I totally agree with your comments re the seperation of senior and juniors. At All Saints in the 2010 season the club was one incorporated body but a Senior Teams Executive Committee was formed and it administered the senior teams. Interesting I had a reliable source ask a leading senior player at one of the higher finishing Group 6 clubs if he was asked his opinion re the merger. The player advised that he was NOT asked his opinion. The player advised that whilst there were a few problems he was happy for the merger to continue. At the Wests Board meeting of 11 October it was expected that a reply concerning the proposal from the NSWRL/CRL to Group 6 would take at least two weeks for an answer but I wouldn't hold your breathe. |
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| Camden-nite | Oct 22 2010, 06:59 PM Post #967 |
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Disco you sound disturbed that i dare question your thought pattern however the reality is that i like all persons who frequent this site have an opinion on whether the competition should be changed from it's present format. I actually do have family members that play in the group six competition at first grade level and can assure you and all concerned that they were not consulted or asked for an opinion as to how the club or clubs should vote in relation to disbandment of the comp in it's current form. I as an adult and thinking person form my own opinion on what is right and wrong and do not approach problems with a knee jerk reaction. What i say is that i do not agree with those that supposedly voted on behalf of players that had not been consulted in this matter. |
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| Highlander | Oct 22 2010, 08:52 PM Post #968 |
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Camden Do the players attend the clubs AGMs?? Do the players raise sponsorship? Do they sell raffle tickets 12months a year? Do they order the jerseys shirts and equipment? Are ther the first to put there hand up on working bees!! What utter do-do your spitting about the players having a say at the end of the day the people working and voluntering there time deserve the right to do whats in there best interst of there club!! Players can always have a say we Asked them at Bowral to attned any meetings that they choose we also have a club captian who attends all meetings and raises and issues that any player brings up! Im pretty sure most clubs would be similiar Ive spoken to players from Thilmere,Mossy, Mitta, Robbo and Narellan and there fine with the decision hell Robertson even voted to stay in group 6 due to the decision!! And im not a grey hair old bugga either by the way!! |
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| Camden-nite | Oct 22 2010, 10:05 PM Post #969 |
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Highlander you as a club representative owe your position at your club to those players who for the love of their sport go out each week and entertain you and the public at large with skills they display on the field. To adopt an attitude of if it were not for your toil and constant endeavours none of this would be possible well in reality people engage in club activity for the love of sport and not the accolades bestowed upon oneself. So in response to your constant reference of what you do, if its reward you want then i suggest you find another interest in life. Age has nothing to do with what one does for the good of others. |
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| Blue Devil | Oct 24 2010, 09:36 PM Post #970 |
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Camden fellah, you write as if your from the Campbelltown Mafia, I must agree with highlander and that is we have to organise and support what's best for our players and coaching staff, I notice that you stat the players you talk to want to keep the combined comp, are they 3rd grade, or under 18's group 6 that have really been effected by the combined comp, yes all our players want the combined comp because they fear going back to a west A Grade, so your statements are obviously from this side of the border. looking forward to Saturday night, should be a good night Edited by Blue Devil, Oct 24 2010, 09:38 PM.
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| Camden-nite | Oct 25 2010, 05:05 PM Post #971 |
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Blue Devil "mafia" thats a rather bold statement! actually i reside in Camden hence the name, i have voiced my opinion on the abandonment of the current comp i have always adopted an attitude of (no knee jerk) reaction to problems, judging by the few problems that have happened during the course of the year if matters had been discussed and handled jointly by both Group 6 and West a resolution could have been found. |
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| Maverick | Oct 26 2010, 08:47 AM Post #972 |
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Blue Devil... You keep saying this side of the border and that side of the border? If you want to play in the G6 comp you have to convince those that are opposed that there is no border and that we all want to play as one. You are enhancing the "us" and "them" scenario, and those that want the merger to continue have to convince and or prove to the ones opposed that the merger, long term is best for all. |
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| Blue Devil | Oct 26 2010, 08:58 AM Post #973 |
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If there isn't a border, why have we had 2 commitees? 2 sets of rules, I never invented the border, it was always there! I asked for a combined meeting at the start of this year, have you ever been to one? Why are we registered West and them Group 6, sorry everything you look at comes back as us V them, if this was done correctly from the start, we may be in a different situation right now! If this was all under the group 6 rule, we all would be group 6, but that's the problem, it's a numbers game and egos will be effected! |
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| disco stu | Oct 26 2010, 11:31 AM Post #974 |
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Camden-nite you should nominate yourself for a position at the Group 6 AGM on the 8th November and turn opinions into actions??You seem to be knowledgable on conflict resolution and problem solving. Wether the other Group 6 clubs share your opinion is another matter. Edited by disco stu, Oct 26 2010, 11:32 AM.
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| Maverick | Oct 26 2010, 01:00 PM Post #975 |
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You are correct there is a border. And that border will not go down until we can be one big happy football family and continually dividing the sides only makes it worse. I must be pretty stupid and naive because I think the whole thing is ridiculess, this is about The game of Rugby League and the young men who play it. Surely there would not be anyone out there that would say that the actual football coming from the combined comp is the best thing for the strength and future of the local game. And yes folks we are talking about a game not a f@$^&ing War, lets come back to reality.I put this scenario to those who want to go alone......Arguably, Group 6 is not a strong comp if not for the bought $$$ players. A lot of the G6 players come out of West sides eg ex State Cup, Bundy, SG Ball and the near misses to those sides.(As well as other districts) Those players are attracted to travel down to you by the $$$. This has been the way it is for lots of years gone by. Wests have not allowed their clubs to be paid for as as long as I can remember and if Wests have to go alone they will have to start pushing clubs to pay their players to attract players, and even help attract sponsers. Do you think the players you have, that travel distances to train will still "all" stay if they can get the same money much closer to where they live? and the young guns emerging (ex u/20s players etc that cant get a run at NRL) Where will they go? If Wests Clubs have money to offer then maybe they they wont head South. This will not happen overnight but within a few years the strength of the G6 comp may start to dwindle and you then may have shot yourselves in the foot for disbanding such a good thing. I dont have a crystal ball but that is a possible future and I only ask those opposed to the merger reconsider their options and work out their differences. For the good of all and for a strong future for all. Edited by Maverick, Oct 26 2010, 03:37 PM.
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| Highlander | Oct 26 2010, 06:03 PM Post #976 |
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Maverick thats a double edge sword there what happens when ctown sides stay in a merger pay there players and the group 6 sides get flogged each year? No different then mate group 6 has been around for along time and yes its had its lean times but it always hangs in there!! Most teams have a production line via there Jnrs!! last couple of seasons of group 6 they had 2 divisions in 18s so the players are there You all keep saying its good for the area and good for all!! If that was the case why did a room full of people from 3 different regions all vote the way they did?? We all have answers and solutions take these to local clubs admins and commitees and try to enforce action!!!
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| oparnz82 | Oct 26 2010, 07:07 PM Post #977 |
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I have heard that 2010 grand finalists, Moss Vale and Picton have not and will not be recieving their deserved prizemoney.... I think its 5 ODD GRAND FOR WINNING the premiership, apparently the reason is because the money was used in relation to the hire of campbelltown stadium, insurance etc.... If this is correct and I'M not 100% sure it is.... What a disgrace! Those clubs are entitled to that money regardless of any other expenses, poor planning?? or budgeting... from what I hear the Moss Vale club is furious.. |
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| Highlander | Oct 26 2010, 07:42 PM Post #978 |
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WOW you would expect more to come of this |
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| Black&White | Oct 26 2010, 10:07 PM Post #979 |
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If this is true then it is really going to "hit the fan"! |
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| Blue Devil | Oct 27 2010, 06:52 AM Post #980 |
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Wests juniors gets the stadium for a bargin price, and at 12 a pop to get in surely they would of made plenty on the day, must say with our experiance of the stadium, if you play there it will send your club broke, the best thing we done was leave the stadium, it is a big white elephant and without the canteen and beer sales you make nothing! |
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and continually dividing the sides only makes it worse.
because I think the whole thing is ridiculess, this is about The game of Rugby League and the young men who play it. Surely there would not be anyone out there that would say that the actual football coming from the combined comp is the best thing for the strength and future of the local game. And yes folks we are talking about a game not a f@$^&ing War, lets come back to reality.

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