WE WANT A FAIR GO FOR OUR AREA, MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND MORE THAN 4 NRL GAMES AT CAMPBELLTOWN STADIUM
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| Blue Devil | Nov 4 2010, 07:56 PM Post #1 |
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Inside information, I have through many of my reliable sources the teams for the 2011 season, Airds Colts, Woodlands Park, J.E.V.C, Leumeah Wolves, Macquarie Cobras, Lithgow Bradbury, Austral Rams, Claymore Panthers and Liverpool City, Going to be a big year! Edited by Blue Devil, Nov 5 2010, 02:58 PM.
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| Warriors78 | Nov 4 2010, 10:25 PM Post #2 |
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Shouldn't this now be on the wests jl forum now? Ha my son used to play against Lithgow Bradbury. |
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| Highlander | Nov 5 2010, 06:13 AM Post #3 |
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Lads we dont want anymore trouble thats why 2010 was closed down. Lets not get it shut down again please. I fear it would be closed for good next time!! |
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| disco stu | Nov 5 2010, 09:40 AM Post #4 |
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Yes it is now.
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| Highlander | Nov 8 2010, 08:07 AM Post #5 |
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just sending a check msg |
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| disco stu | Nov 8 2010, 09:46 AM Post #6 |
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I hear Easts and are dropping their name are renaming themselves as the Campbelltown Eagles and City also renaming themselves as the Campbelltown Kangaroos dropping the city of their name??If its true why is that ??
Edited by disco stu, Nov 8 2010, 09:48 AM.
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| simmo | Nov 8 2010, 04:28 PM Post #7 |
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Memories there. I actually played for Macquarie Cobras and JEVC |
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| Maverick | Nov 9 2010, 07:56 AM Post #8 |
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I just read on the G6 Season 20111thread that East Campbelltown and Campbelltown City have as of last night, been affiliated with G6 and therefore not play in the West Comp. |
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| Blue Devil | Nov 9 2010, 09:32 AM Post #9 |
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It was also mentioned that 3 other clubs had contacted the group in playing, are you one of those clubs? |
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| Maverick | Nov 9 2010, 04:46 PM Post #10 |
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First I heard about this was on the G6 thread, and as I have said before I am not on the committee and as such I haven't heard anything, but I will be asking. |
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| Maverick | Nov 10 2010, 07:44 AM Post #11 |
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In an email I recieved this morning it indicates that All Saints will definatley be playing in the Wests Comp and Wests will not pursue playing in the G6 Comp. 9 teams that nominated for 1st grade as well as more for reserve and u/18s were listed in a meeting last night. In that same email I received it indicates that Easts and City still have a fight on their hands with NSWRL if they wish to play in G6. Edited by Maverick, Nov 10 2010, 07:53 AM.
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| Highlander | Nov 10 2010, 08:19 AM Post #12 |
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Cheers Maverick You could see the NSWRL would sooner or later get involved! |
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| DevelopmentCoach | Nov 10 2010, 02:17 PM Post #13 |
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Haha, "a fight on their hands"?. In all honesty, they want to be in Group 6, Group 6 want them a part of their competition, and they would dominate the Wests comp without question. Why fight? Campbelltown City have a historical link to the comp, and Easts are using their non-Wests affiliated Bundy Cup club, which is their own prerogative. It's no different then a whole team of Campbelltown locals moving over and playing for Narellan, or Mount Annan, or Camden, but at least now they get to keep their own club identity. Good on the two clubs for standing up for what they think is right, and finally having the guts to tell the junior league NO. NSWRL won't do a thing, and everyone will move on |
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| Maverick | Nov 10 2010, 02:58 PM Post #14 |
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I totally agree with what you say, I was just passing on what was sent to me. Although I am unsure though if NSWRL will go any further. |
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| disco stu | Nov 12 2010, 09:05 AM Post #15 |
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Renaming the clubs effectively is creating a new club, hence theres no link or affiliation anymore to Wests jrl. Also citys history is deeply entrenched in group 6 theyve played more seasons in that comp then under Wests jrl. |
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| The Bigshow | Nov 12 2010, 09:16 PM Post #16 |
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Hello All, This is my first post so hello to everyone. Boys lets be positive. As a 25 year All Saints player, I want to hear about the teams that want to be in the comp and not the ones that dont. Yes I had a lot of fun playing in the group 6 comp for the last two years but Group 6 teams have voted and they have moved on, we have to do the same. Good luck to Easts and City in the group 6 comp, They are strong well run clubs, I know they will do themselves proud. Its up to the rest of us to try and get this senior competition moving in the right direction. The only way we can do that is to be positive and support our clubs and the decisions they make for our futures. Im excited to see who fields teams in 2011. I know who has nominated and I am now looking forward to see some of the traditional A grade sides come back into the comp that I first started playing against in 2001. We used to have some of our best contests against Macarthur Saints, Ingleburn Bulldogs and the like. Im very happy to see Mac Fields nominate for 1st grade. Looks like most clubs are heading in the right direction. From All Saints point of view, we have appointed our 1st Grade, Reserve Grade and Under 18s coaches and looks like we will retain the bulk of our squads plus some new local talent. Plus we have most of our under 16s from 2009 coming back plus with some of the new kids coming through, we will have an under 18s again and should be pretty competitive. I also hear the minto are already training and are averaging around 50 players per session. Im looking forward to sitting on the hill at Hillier in late March 2011 thats for sure. Its good to be talking footy, any one else heard any rumours? |
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| Maverick | Nov 13 2010, 08:16 AM Post #17 |
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I heard that a 25 year All Saints player, embarking on a coaching career, may still have some footy left in him.
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| The Bigshow | Nov 13 2010, 09:13 PM Post #18 |
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It Depends, id like to see a set of brothers you know pretty well go around again. |
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| AllSaints | Nov 18 2010, 02:57 PM Post #19 |
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Campbelltown Eagles official statement: The Campbelltown Eagles Rugby League Football Club was accepted affiliation in an historic Group 6 annual general meeting on Monday, November 8, 2010. The Eagles will plan to play three grades as well as two under-18 teams in the Group 6 competition. The Eagles senior teams vow to fight all the way to keep themselves with the aligned Group 6 competition. Campbelltown Eagles senior committee all agree ``it’s all or nothing, we need our club in Group 6 to survive, many players have stated playing in Wests juniors A-grade comp will not give our club or players any competition.’’ There were only four teams out of the 12 that contested in the 1st grade from the Wests juniors in the combined competition in 2010. The Kangaroos were the only competitive team against the Eagles from the Wests juniors. A 98-4 scoreline against Ingleburn Bulldogs and a 40-6 score line against All Saints isn’t good for rugby league in our area. It was stated at the last Wests juniors secretaries’ meeting that the Eagles and Kangaroos clubs would also have to let 30 players go from each club disbanding their 3rd grade teams. East Campbelltown Eagles junior president Daniel Draper stated: ``Our 3rd grade team was party central of our club, it consisted of mainly juniors of our club and we will not turn our juniors away from the club or the game of rugby league.’’ It is our job to support, encourage and promote the game of rugby league; the Wests juniors for the good of the game should accept our position and support our clubs in playing in the Group 6 competition that supports our needs. We have sat at many meetings in the past five years listening to clubs saying they have A-grade teams, and two weeks before the competition we are lucky to have six teams, with a number of teams saying we won’t have a team if we have to play East Campbelltown. In 2006 our competition was struggling massively and our club could see the need to find an alternative. In 2007 it dropped down to just four teams where they were separated in the Parramatta and Canterbury competition and spread over three divisions. This decision also saw the Eagles miss the first two competition rounds of the Canterbury competition. In 2008 our club asked for a combined competition with Canterbury only to be told we were white-anting the local competition and that Wests juniors had a local competition. That year the competition was played between six clubs with only three having many competitive games and the other three clubs struggling with high scores against and forfeits, and one club pulling out before the season finished. In 2009 we were told we had a competition only to have clubs pull out and a last-minute decision was made to amalgamate with Group 6. Group 6 have offered a high level of rugby league for our supporters, players, sponsors and officials over the past two seasons and we intend to have a long and prosperous relationship with the Group 6 Country Rugby League competition. Campbelltown City Statement: The Campbelltown City Kangaroos JRLFC will continue to play in the Wests Magpies DJRL competition. The charter of this club is to provide under-6s to under-16s rugby league. The Junior Roos are very happy in the Wests junior league and look forward to many further fruitful years in this strong and vibrant junior competition. The Campbelltown City Kangaroos RLFC is the resumption of the senior club which amalgamated with the junior club in December 1983. The charter of the senior club is to provide the best local rugby league opportunity to our 1st graders, reserve graders, third graders and under-18s. A unanimous vote of life members, members and players agreed that the best rugby league competition for us to seek affiliation with is Group 6. The seniors sought affiliation with the Group 6 competition and it was duly granted by the Group 6 management committee and clubs on Monday, November 8. We will be fielding 1st grade, reserve grade, 3rd grade, under-18As and under-18Bs in Group 6 in 2011 Wests Statement Statement: Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League Rugby League 15 Nov 07 @ 04:56pm In response to the recent article ``Clubs keen to jump ship to Group 6 comp’‘, published in the Macarthur Chronicle dated Tuesday, November 9, 2010, I wish to advise the position of the Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League Limited. The conduct of the combined competition with Group 6 was a challenge, however, there is absolutely no doubt it was a great success and was by far and away the largest, strongest and most competitive senior football competition with growth in each year of the competition. The Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League embraced the combined competition in a very open and transparent manner with Group 6 management, and has supported the NSWRL and the CRL in their desire to have a combined competition with Group 6 for the betterment of both areas and more importantly for the senior players. When considering the 2011 season, unfortunately an email was received from Group 6 on Wednesday, October 6, 2010 stating that: ``A Special Extraordinary General Meeting was held at Mittagong RSL Club last night Monday 4th October 2010. To discuss the 2011 Competition. A Secret Ballot was taken by the Representatives of all 13 Clubs to decide where the Competition was to be . Unfortunately the result of the Ballot was a Unanimous decision to have a standalone Competition of the Group 6 Clubs only. That is no Combined Competition for 2011.’‘ This decision was very disappointing as a lot of work was put in by this junior league and in particular our clubs to maintain the combined competition. Due to the decision of Group 6, in an attempt to continue the competition an offer was made by the NSWRL and the CRL to fund the appointment of an independent manager as a way forward for the competition to continue. This offer was accepted by Wests DJRL, but to this day we have not had any response from Group 6 management in relation to this offer, or if in fact if it has been discussed by their clubs. The Chronicle article informs that two of our affiliated clubs, being Campbelltown City JRLFC and East Campbelltown JRLFC have applied to Group 6 to participate in the Group 6 competition in 2011. These applications were due to be heard at the Group 6 annual general meeting on Monday, November 8, 2010. Group 6 management has not contacted Wests DJRL to advise of the outcome of consideration of the applications even though protocol would dictate that this should have been a priority. The alleged acceptance by Group 6 management of the applications is in direct conflict with the email received from the Group 6 secretary, on October 6 which states: ``Unfortunately the result of the Ballot was a Unanimous decision to have a standalone Competition of the Group 6 Clubs only’‘. Campbelltown City JRLFC and East Campbelltown JRLFC reside inside the NSWRL boundaries of the Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League. Contact has been made by Wests DJRL with the general manager of the NSWRL, Mr Geoff Carr, general manager of the CRL, Mr Terry Quinn and NSWRL coaching and development manager, Mr Martin Meredith, to seek direction on the issue of clubs crossing agreed boundaries. Martin Meredith has advised that after discussions with both the general manager of the NSWRL and the CRL, that both leagues indicated: That Western Suburbs JL Clubs would not be permitted to play in the Group 6 Rugby League unless sanctioned by the Western Suburbs JL. The NSWRL current policy regarding boundaries is ``that clubs must be play and train within the District they reside.’‘ It is also noted that in the 2010 CRL Constitution that (Rule 46 Clause 8): ``No Club or other Constituent Body shall permit any team to participate in any match competition or fixture with or against any organisation not subject to the control of or sanction by the respective Constituent Body, the League, the New South Wales Rugby League Limited or Australian Rugby League Limited without first obtaining the written permission of the League.’‘ The Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League will not sanction the participation of either Campbelltown City JRLFC or East Campbelltown JRLFC in the Group 6 competition nor will either club be permitted to use a name the same as, or similar to, a name used by another club. Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League Limited agreed to combine with Group 6 at the commencement of the 2009 season in good faith believing that the concept was advantageous for both districts working together for a common goal, that goal was to provide a strong, sustainable competition for senior players at all levels of ability. Unfortunately, with the current events that have taken place and the manner in which Group 6 management have allowed and accepted applications from Wests DJRL affiliated clubs has left us feeling abandoned by those who we believed and the game of rugby league at heart. Your comment in the article states: ``The defection by Campbelltown City Kangaroos and East Campbelltown Eagles follows the decision by Group 6 to bail from the combined senior competition with Wests in 2011, effectively leaving Wests without a credible A grade competition next year’‘. How do you qualify this statement? Did you seek to gain clarification from us? Would you like to explain to our other 13 clubs that you believe they won’t have a credible A Grade competition and on what grounds you base this opinion. Contrary to your comments Wests DJRL advise that at a recent meeting of our affiliated clubs to discuss the 2011 senior competition, the clubs in attendance indicated their full support and loyalty to the Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League senior competition for 2011. Currently we have a strong indication from our clubs that there will 18 teams nominating for positions in 1st and reserve grade from the following clubs: All Saints, Campbelltown Collegians, Campbelltown Warriors, Eaglevale St. Andrews, Hinchinbrook, Ingleburn Bulldogs, Ingleburn RSL, Liverpool Catholic Club, Macarthur Saints, Macquarie Fields, Minto Cobras and Valley United. An additional 12 teams will be entering the under-18s competition which will be a two-tier competition to accommodate the 17 year old players from the following clubs: All Saints, Ashcroft, Campbelltown Collegians, Campbelltown Warriors, Eaglevale St Andrews, Hinchinbrook, Ingleburn RSL, Liverpool Catholic Club, Macarthur Saints, Macquarie Fields and Minto Cobras. As you can see by the 2011 senior competition will be a strong and vibrant one, with all clubs vigorously supporting the 2011 Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League stand-alone competition, which will kick off with a pre-season competition commencing Friday, March 4, 2011. The above numbers do not however include Campbelltown City and East Campbelltown as they elected not to attend the recent senior competition meeting. With those two clubs included, and based upon 2010 team entries for those clubs, then our A and Reserve Grade numbers would increase to 24 teams and 18s would increase to 14. A total of 24 senior sides will more than allow for an A-, reserve and third grade competition, and two divisions of under-18s. The Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League Limited with the full support and encouragement of both NSWRL and CRL will vigorously oppose what you have called a defection. We do this not for our own egos and self-promotion, we do this for all players, not just some. The clubs teams and players who have shown loyalty and support of their competition deserve to be supported in return. And yes, we are concerned for the Campbelltown City and East Campbelltown players as much as those who have remained loyal. What could potentially happen to them is that may be left with no competition at all to play in. This is not what we are here for. We are here to provide a competition for players. We have provided a competition. Your previous articles have sighted Group 6 as stating Wests player and spectator behaviour as a catalyst for the dissolution of the combined competition. If this was indeed the case, why accept applications from Wests clubs? Group 6 approached Western Suburbs in 2009 to have a combined competition to prop up their competition. Western Suburbs believed it was the best thing for players and wholeheartedly agreed. If Group 6 truly believed in their ability to stand alone they would not have a desperate need to accept applications from 2 Western Suburbs clubs. Why is Group 6 management so keen to attract Western Suburbs Clubs to their competition when they stated when calling off the combined competition, that they would have a competition for Group 6 clubs only. We simply cannot say. We do not understand Group 6 management decisions. We want the combined competition for the good of the players, however, if this is not to be we will have our own. I would suggest in the future that the Macarthur Chronicle, in the interest of fair coverage, seek the views of all parties involved in any matter of public interest |
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| disco stu | Nov 18 2010, 04:15 PM Post #20 |
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Campbelltown City JRLFC are now only a club from u/6-u/16, they are not defecting from wests jrl as stated. Campbelltown City RLFC are simply ressurecting their old senior side once affiliated to group 6. Campbelltown City JRLFC reside in NSWRL boundaries ..yes ,but Campbelltown City RLFC dont so Wests jrl have no reason to deny them. Im understand the boundaries in group 6 have only been changed slightly but that was to accomodate appin warriors & goulburn so C/City RLFC would still reside within the crl group 6 boundary. Citys willingness to play in group 6 under their old senior club would be the same if Berrima Goal re entered a side , no different . A similar scenario happened to Goulburn Stockmen when they left group 6 to go to group 8 , they revived their old group 8 Goulburn Workers Bulldogs club to enter into group 8 to cut ties from group 6. So a precedent has been set, city are doing the same or similar. I also think that it will be the wests clubs that will determine what their own player strength & roster will bring to the level of competition in the Wests jrl A grade comp , not a hypothetical statement at the moment by Wests. Yes they have provided a competition with numerous teams ,but of what standard & credibility?? History has shown that hasn't been the case and its to early to be making statements on competiton standards & strength simply based on team nominations. Edited by disco stu, Nov 18 2010, 04:35 PM.
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