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Wests JRL Senior Season 2011; A Grade
Topic Started: Nov 4 2010, 07:56 PM (48,282 Views)
Mad Tiger
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Feb 6 2011, 07:04 PM
Has anyone discussed West 18's all the focus on west A grade, I hope the 18's don't get left out! Something I heard today that was interesting ESA have contacted Group 6, to play out there, Mad Tiger, can you confirm this? Are you jumping a sinking ship? It come from a very reliable source.
NOT TRUE!!! 100% confirmed!!!!!!! We WILL be in the Wests Comp...
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Feb 6 2011, 07:43 PM
there was a time when group 6 only had 5 teams in 1st grade and same in reggies.They then started a third grade to re build there comp wests A and A reserve can be built up.Lets concentrate on Footy .
Finally someone with a positive outlook...
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Feb 6 2011, 07:54 PM
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Feb 6 2011, 07:04 PM
Has anyone discussed West 18's all the focus on west A grade, I hope the 18's don't get left out! Something I heard today that was interesting ESA have contacted Group 6, to play out there, Mad Tiger, can you confirm this? Are you jumping a sinking ship? It come from a very reliable source.
NOT TRUE!!! 100% confirmed!!!!!!! We WILL be in the Wests Comp...
Look, I don't want to get into any pollitical debate, I only reported what I was told by a Group 6 official, he even told me it was your coach, I would still like to see comps together, 12 team Res and 1st grade with 3rd grade option, yes there was only 6 1st grade group 6 teams, in west that year there was only 4, why wouldn't nswrl want to keep it together, what a no brainer.
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Feb 6 2011, 09:21 PM
Mad Tiger
Feb 6 2011, 07:54 PM
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Feb 6 2011, 07:04 PM
Has anyone discussed West 18's all the focus on west A grade, I hope the 18's don't get left out! Something I heard today that was interesting ESA have contacted Group 6, to play out there, Mad Tiger, can you confirm this? Are you jumping a sinking ship? It come from a very reliable source.
NOT TRUE!!! 100% confirmed!!!!!!! We WILL be in the Wests Comp...
Look, I don't want to get into any pollitical debate, I only reported what I was told by a Group 6 official, he even told me it was your coach, I would still like to see comps together, 12 team Res and 1st grade with 3rd grade option, yes there was only 6 1st grade group 6 teams, in west that year there was only 4, why wouldn't nswrl want to keep it together, what a no brainer.
Mate, Im one of the coaches at ESA and i can tell you i know nothing of the approach to Group 6.

I agree with you in that i think the best thing for the area is a combined comp, but unfortunatley its not going to happen so both sides need to get on with their own thing. Slagging off the other side (as many have done) isnt going to do anyone any good.

Im becoming increasingly excited that the Wests comp with build into something very good over the next few seasons if people support it.
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Feb 6 2011, 07:43 PM
there was a time when group 6 only had 5 teams in 1st grade and same in reggies.They then started a third grade to re build there comp wests A and A reserve can be built up.Lets concentrate on Footy .
group 6 had one bad year out of 80 seasons. good luck to the teams left in wests but I'd be begging the board to release control to the group so the comp can stay together in some way. Who cares who runs it? the players don't
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parra eels
Feb 6 2011, 07:43 PM
there was a time when group 6 only had 5 teams in 1st grade and same in reggies.They then started a third grade to re build there comp wests A and A reserve can be built up.Lets concentrate on Footy .
group 6 had one bad year out of 80 seasons. good luck to the teams left in wests but I'd be begging the board to release control to the group so the comp can stay together in some way. Who cares who runs it? the players don't
You seem to be forgetting Group 6 don't want the Wests sides.. That was made clear... So if Wests do release control where do they go??

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group 6 don't want wests management, the violence of some teams particularly the excuse that this is just the way it is out here. Esa would be affiliated overnight Ive heard to the group cause there well run & disiplined
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Feb 7 2011, 10:47 AM
group 6 don't want wests management, the violence of some teams particularly the excuse that this is just the way it is out here. Esa would be affiliated overnight Ive heard to the group cause there well run & disiplined
I've heard that as well, the group has never said they don't want West teams, hence Eagles, Roos and Bulls all getting the ok, they have never knocked back a club so you can't say that, it was the management they couldn't work with, you should also ask your President, he knows who contacted group 6.
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Well guys considering i was at the meeting to vote wests out i can say this some clubs assisted in the split those clubs know who they are and when there playing in a lesser comp they can blame themselves. Its sad when actions of the few ruin it for everyone!! :cry: :cry:

But im sure that a club like ESA would grow from a boy to man in group 6 in seniors ranks!! :agree:
Edited by Highlander, Feb 7 2011, 03:30 PM.
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Anyone who has a good working knowledge of the points system for players, could you please post it here, just have a few questions as to what players are worth what..
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Feb 7 2011, 03:28 PM
Well guys considering i was at the meeting to vote wests out i can say this some clubs assisted in the split those clubs know who they are and when there playing in a lesser comp they can blame themselves. Its sad when actions of the few ruin it for everyone!! :cry: :cry:

But im sure that a club like ESA would grow from a boy to man in group 6 in seniors ranks!! :agree:
Stop trying to fan the flames H :P
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Does anyone no how many teams have entered in the 9s
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Im just stating the obvious there mr tiger

Untill wests Clubs seperate from there jnr clubs there seniors will not run at there potential!!

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Feb 7 2011, 03:35 PM
Anyone who has a good working knowledge of the points system for players, could you please post it here, just have a few questions as to what players are worth what..
COMBINED COMPETITION POINTS SYSTEM - 2010

Category – A 40 POINTS – Per player that has participated in any of the grades/competitions outlined below in the current season or the previous 3 seasons.
• Overseas player
• NZ Barter Card Competition
• Second Tier Competition from other Countries
• NRL / ARL / NSWRL including the National Under 20’s Competition
• Representative player from another code
• Jim Beam Cup / Bundaberg Red Cup

Category – B 25 POINTS - Per player that has participated in any of the grades/competitions outlined below in the current season or the previous 3 seasons.
• Any player transferring from another club within Group 6 / Western Suburbs DJRL registering in1st Grade – Reserve Grade –
3rd Grade – Under 18’s

Category – C 20 POINTS – Per player that has participated in any of the grades/competitions outlined below in the current season or the previous 3 seasons.
• Region Representative / Divisional Representative / Group Representative / NSWRL Junior Representative

Category – D 10 POINTS - Per player that has participated in any of the grades/competitions outlined below in the current season or the previous 3 seasons.
• Players from outside Group 6 / Western Suburbs District JRL
• Players transferring from another code

Category – E 2 POINTS – Per player
• Locally developed players and local players returning to their Junior Club regardless of status or grade previous.

Note – Definition of a local player;
• where a player commenced his rugby league participation from under 6’s to under 16’s
• Majority of years played at junior club – under 6’s to under 16’s
• Should the majority be equal between clubs – Local Club will be deemed the players’ first registered club
• 3 Consecutive years with the club – Under 18’s and above
COMBINED COMPETITION POINTS SYSTEM – 2010 ...Continued
Note accompanying the Points System for the Combined Competition 2010
Qualifications –
1. First Grade Clubs - Defined by Clubs fielding teams in 1st Grade and Reserve Grade
• Points – Allocated a maximum of 300 POINTS per round per First Grade Club

2. 3rd Grade Clubs – Defined by clubs fielding teams in 3rd grade –
This grade is independent of the 1st and Reserve Grade Competitions
• Points – Allocated a maximum of 250 POINTS

3. 2nd Grade only - Defined by clubs fielding a team in 2nd grade only –
• Points – Allocated a maximum of 200 POINTS

4. Under 18’s – Clubs who participate in the Under 18’s competition
• Points - Allocated an additional 50 POINTS per team

5. Points will hold the same value for a period of three (3) years

6. After three (3) consecutive years service with one club the player will be deemed a local – Under 18’s and above

7. Group 6 only – Any player from the above categories who reside within the residential boundary of the club that he is registered with will receive 20% discount. (Proof of residential status must be provided)

8. Group 6 only – Players coming out of the Junior Competition must remain with their Parent Club until they progress out of the Under 18’s competition. At that time they will come under the above points system.

8.1 Western Suburbs DJRL – Players coming out of the Junior Competition into the under 18’s competitions or higher grade will come under the above points system.

9. Forfeits - Any club who forfeits a round will be reduced to half the allocated points allowed.

10. The Combined Committee reserves the right to make determinations on the Points System where extraordinary circumstances may occur.
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congrats to the kangaroos & eagles u18s, who both played in the group 6 9s yesterday at picton & people said they would never play,
well play they did both clubs did themselves & there area proud kangaroos have made the final & will play camden, eagles have made
the plate final & will play picton. a great days entertainment & a very good counter lunch at the imperial.

when i was at picton on sunday i also overheard a conversation that all wests sides were going to get an open invitation to apply for entry into the group 6 comp, but under there rules, can anyone confirm this or is this just another rumor. this is a great idea & if true i would hope that other wests clubs would consider there options, hopefully this will stop the whinging about, the were not wanted stuff, as warriors & fence sitter said it wasnt the clubs it was the management they coudnt work with.
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Feb 7 2011, 03:35 PM
Anyone who has a good working knowledge of the points system for players, could you please post it here, just have a few questions as to what players are worth what..
Hey Mad Tiger, why would you want to know about the Group 6 points? You are better off contacting G6 yourself, or get the person who contacted Group 6 in the first place to ask, some of your members are obviously keen to give it a go!
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congrats to the kangaroos & eagles u18s, who both played in the group 6 9s yesterday at picton & people said they would never play,
well play they did both clubs did themselves & there area proud kangaroos have made the final & will play camden, eagles have made
the plate final & will play picton. a great days entertainment & a very good counter lunch at the imperial.

when i was at picton on sunday i also overheard a conversation that all wests sides were going to get an open invitation to apply for entry into the group 6 comp, but under there rules, can anyone confirm this or is this just another rumor. this is a great idea & if true i would hope that other wests clubs would consider there options, hopefully this will stop the whinging about, the were not wanted stuff, as warriors & fence sitter said it wasnt the clubs it was the management they coudnt work with.
No way that would be true. It would destroy the wests league thus forcing NSWRL hand.. to act

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Feb 7 2011, 08:04 PM
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Feb 7 2011, 03:35 PM
Anyone who has a good working knowledge of the points system for players, could you please post it here, just have a few questions as to what players are worth what..
Hey Mad Tiger, why would you want to know about the Group 6 points? You are better off contacting G6 yourself, or get the person who contacted Group 6 in the first place to ask, some of your members are obviously keen to give it a go!
Simple BD, Wests are using the same points system...

No need to contact Group 6, We already have a comp...
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Rome wasnt built in a day!!!!
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Exactly Highlander ....no one is disputing that the G6 Comp have a stronger Comp NOW and Yes as clubs and a district we have to rebuild its no secret.... its not something that will happen over night but it will happen (no pantene pun intended) it will be up to all involved Starting from the top with the board the advisory committee to club committees down to the players themselves to work towards a professional and viable comp we need to look at models of ALL successful comps and yes Group 6 would be included but there are other comps out there that are equally if not more professional/successful that we should be looking at all their models and basing our model on what looks like the best and most successful formula
In my opinion it would have to be a three year plan its just a shame those that defected didn't stick around to assist in steering the rudder
Does the seniors need a separate governing body hmmm I'm on the fence with this one only because I do think we need someone else in there running the seniors separately but seriously who would you put in charge of running the seniors there is slim pickings out there with the right experience and don't have there own personal agendas
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