Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]

WE WANT A FAIR GO FOR OUR AREA, MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND MORE THAN 4 NRL GAMES AT CAMPBELLTOWN STADIUM

Want to talk all things Wests? Click here for our Facebook Page
Locked Topic
Wests JRL Senior Season 2011; A Grade
Topic Started: Nov 4 2010, 07:56 PM (48,298 Views)
E.A.S.T CTWN
Member Avatar
Club Footy
[ * ]
Very well said Disco, i have played in the West's run comp and will say i will never play in it again. As you say they are only nominations, correct me if i am wrong but didnt Minto say they would field 1st, 2nd and 3rd grade teams last year and yet came up with only 3rd grade, sounds easy to sit and say you will have teams, different matter when it comes to producing them.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
disco stu
Member Avatar
Country Origin
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Yes minto bailed a fortnight prior to the comp start and threw the draw into chaos which saw two teams having byes for the first 13 rounds. And also collies dropping out of first grade to only a reserve grade this year as well.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Blue Devil
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
Minto wasn't a fortnight before, it was Friday before round 1, I have the complaint letter I sent to NSWRL to prove it, I had a dissagreement at a secretaries meeting a few years ago regarding this subject, we had 8 or 9 clubs saying that they had A Grade teams, I knew this was false as we had members of clubs informing us on how many players attended training, that secretaries meeting it come to me and they asked how many A Grade teams we were entering into the competition, I replied 4, they replied"4 teams, that's great" I then said "exactly! What I say I have to what we have and what we actually got is two different things, and that's what's goes on every year, Secretaries big noting them selves!

E.A.S.T glad to see you write that, I contacted almost every senior member in the past weeks to get assurance that our senior club is doing the right thing, every reply was just like that!

Interesting is how many players from other clubs that have contacted us to come over, I let them know of the point system in place and we are concentrating on juniors, but all that will happen is those players will end up at Narellan and Camden, good luck to them
Edited by Blue Devil, Nov 19 2010, 09:23 PM.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Highlander
Member Avatar
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
Not Wrong there Devil we have been contacted by players ourselves some not even wanting payment(Some do and LMAO how much) but alot just wanting there petrol covered which we dont mind but where a fair drive away!! Shows what alot of the players are thinking!

Offline Profile Goto Top
 
disco stu
Member Avatar
Country Origin
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Blue Devil
Nov 19 2010, 09:19 PM
Minto wasn't a fortnight before, it was Friday before round 1, I have the complaint letter I sent to NSWRL to prove it,
I believe you, my memory is a little hazy but i knew it was close before the start of the competition.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Warriors78
Member Avatar
NSW Cup
[ *  *  * ]
this is exciting, wests a grade again. Who is coaching who? who is the captain coaches or is it the wests fantasy league?
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Blue Devil
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
Warriors78
Nov 21 2010, 04:23 PM
this is exciting, wests a grade again. Who is coaching who? who is the captain coaches or is it the wests fantasy league?
I have put together a factual reference that has been recorded from the minutes of West’s Meetings over the past years regarding the A Grade Competition. This will outline a number of issues that we have to compete in this competition:

Seniors committee
This is an idea that has raised its ugly head on a number of occasions in the past 5 years, now the seniors committee has been formed, it has members from clubs that does not have senior teams!

West’s juniors Secretary’s meeting, minutes of the 11th of April 2006, General Business, Campbelltown Warriors, “Are there any clubs interested in having a U/18’s, or U’20’s and A Grade for the 2007 season? Can a sub-committee be formed to see if an U18’s, U20’s and A Grade competition is viable for 2007”

Reply, The earliest that will happen will be after the Grand Finals and then clubs will be asked their opinion.

West’s juniors Secretary’s meeting, minutes on the 8th of May 2007, Proposal for clubs to consider 6.2, A Grade Committee- Require representatives from each club to help bring new ideas to the competition, Clubs asked to notify of person/s that may be interested (notice the date, grand finals must have been played in APRIL)

•West’s juniors Secretary’s meeting, minutes of the 8th of May 2007, A Grade committee is there any feedback?
Reply, Clubs- Warriors, Mr. and Mrs Beckman, Ingleburn Bulldogs– R Cameron (that’s the senior committee)

West’s juniors Secretary’s meeting, minutes on the 10th of July 2007, Campbelltown Warriors, A Grade Committee-What’s Happening?

Reply, Only 2 names indicated-Would like more to move forward.
Reply, Warriors JRLFC-nominated Mr Gorden Pinney

Memorandum, 1st of November 2010, To achieve a sense of ownership for all participants we advocate the formation of a Management Committee comprising club representatives elected by you and Board representatives.

Out of the 9 clubs the board consist off, 3 off those clubs did not have senior teams for 2010, and a further 3 were involved in very ugly incidents on and off the field throughout the 2010 season!


Phantom teams

Every year, secretaries nominate teams that think they may have for the upcoming season, some teams will have as little as 5 players turning up at training, but they will nominate an A Grade team anyway, this is what has happened at many secretary meetings over the past years.

•Team Nominations at West’s Secretary’s Meeting, Minutes of the 13th of February 2007,

A Grade Nominees for 2007
All Saints,
ESA,
Campbelltown Collegians,
East Campbelltown,
Ingleburn Bulldogs,
Ingleburn RSL
Macarthur Saints

Under 19’s Nominees for 2007
Campbelltown Warriors
Ashcroft
East Campbelltown
LCC
Macarthur Saints


Final Team nominations at the West’s Secretary’s Meeting, Minutes of the 13th of March 2007

A Grade teams for 2007
All Saints,
Campbelltown Collegians,
East Campbelltown
Ingleburn Bulldogs

Under 19’s Teams for 2007
East Campbelltown
LCC


Exactly a 50% success rate for 2007 :winner:

•Team Nominations at West’s Secretary’s Meeting, Minutes of the 12th of February 2008,

A Grade Nominees for 2008
All Saints, Ashcroft,
Campbelltown Collegians,
East Campbelltown
Hinchinbrook
Ingleburn Bulldogs
Ingleburn RSL
Valley United

Under 21’s Nominees for 2008
Ashcroft
East Campbelltown
LCC


Final Team nominations at the West’s Secretary’s Meeting, Minutes of the 8th of April 2008

Motion: Mr Jeff Aplitt 2nd by: Derek Maher
The Western Suburbs District Junior Rugby League under 21’s and A Grade Competition combine with the Canterbury District Junior Rugby League for season 2008. Competition is to be based on home and away format, CARRIED
An email circulated on the 15th of April 2008 stated that this proposal to Canterbury was denied and we were forced to play in a 6 team A Grade competition, Interesting stats from A Grade 2008, 3 sides competitive, 3 sides struggled, 5 Forfeits throughout the season and 1 team withdrawing before the season finished.

Team Nominations at West’s Secretary’s Meeting, Minutes of the 10th of February 2009,

A Grade Nominees for 2009
All Saints,
Campbelltown Collegians,
East Campbelltown,
Ingleburn Bulldogs,
Ingleburn RSL
Macquarie Fields
Minto Cobras
Valley United

Under 23’s Nominees for 2009
Campbelltown Collegians
East Campbelltown
Minto Cobras
Valley United


2009 we merged with Group 6 two weeks prior to the commencement of the competition.

1st Grade,
East Campbelltown,
Ingleburn Bulldogs,

Reserve Grade
East Campbelltown
Valley United

And we all know what happened in 2010!

•The West’s Juniors could not possibly run a 1st Grade competition that suits our needs, We have 3 Grades and we will not turn players away from the game of Rugby League. The current list of teams competing in first grade for 2011 are:

LCC,
All Saints,
Valley,
Minto,
Ingleburn RSL
Macquarie Fields
And the new Liverpool Titans

Out of these teams, 4 are within a 3 Kilometre radius of each other and are competing against two of the finest clubs in the state, Cabramatta and Mountie’s, for players in that area, you don’t have to be Smart to work out this competition like Warriors 78 stated is fantasy League! :upyours:

Edited by disco stu, Feb 24 2011, 02:10 PM.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
AllSaints
Member Avatar
Dancer
[ *  * ]
Blue Devil - Glad to see you so positive. As you have now jumped into bed with Group 6 - how about restricting your positive comments to the Group 6 forum and let the Wests clubs get on with forming their own senior competition with a positive attitude. Fingers crossed it will be a competitive/viable competition - time will tell. Negative talk doesn't help anyone. You must appreciate not all Wests clubs can jump ship to Group 6 - it's just not viable. It's a given that the standard of Wests A grade and Group 6 will be miles apart in playing standard - especially as Group 6 first grade clubs pay well. Good luck to Campbelltown Eagles and Campbelltown Kangaroos - I have no hard feelings - I wish you both well in Group 6. Maybe you have done the other Wests clubs a favour as our competition will be more competitive. Looking forward to reading your comments on the Group 6 forum. Eagles/All Saints premierships - now that's something to talk about on the forum. Kind regards.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Mad Tiger
Member Avatar
NYC U20's
[ *  * ]
Blue Devil
Nov 22 2010, 09:05 AM

•The West’s Juniors could not possibly run a 1st Grade competition that suits our needs, We have 3 Grades and we will not turn players away from the game of Rugby League. The current list of teams competing in first grade for 2011 are:

LCC,
All Saints,
Valley,
Minto,
Ingleburn RSL
Macquarie Fields
And the new Liverpool Titans

Out of these teams, 4 are within a 3 Kilometre radius of each other and are competing against two of the finest clubs in the state, Cabramatta and Mountie’s, for players in that area, you don’t have to be Hardly Smart to work out this competition like Warriors 78 stated is fantasy League! :upyours:

Don't discount ESA from having a 1st Grade side next season... We are aiming for that but if not in 2011 definatley in 2012..

In fact we have had quite a few players coming to us asking for a spot for next season already, including 1 ex NRL player. Not saying he will definatley be there but the interest surely is..
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Highlander
Member Avatar
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
Please keep this site positive!!!


No more name dropping or anything to get the site closed!!!

Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Blue Devil
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
AllSaints
Nov 22 2010, 01:21 PM
Blue Devil - Glad to see you so positive. As you have now jumped into bed with Group 6 - how about restricting your positive comments to the Group 6 forum and let the Wests clubs get on with forming their own senior competition with a positive attitude. Fingers crossed it will be a competitive/viable competition - time will tell. Negative talk doesn't help anyone. You must appreciate not all Wests clubs can jump ship to Group 6 - it's just not viable. It's a given that the standard of Wests A grade and Group 6 will be miles apart in playing standard - especially as Group 6 first grade clubs pay well. Good luck to Campbelltown Eagles and Campbelltown Kangaroos - I have no hard feelings - I wish you both well in Group 6. Maybe you have done the other Wests clubs a favour as our competition will be more competitive. Looking forward to reading your comments on the Group 6 forum. Eagles/All Saints premierships - now that's something to talk about on the forum. Kind regards.
Mate, I would love to stick to the Group 6 forum, but while we have people that you are in bed with doing everything in their power to stop us, I will gladly give you and other viewers our reasons for jumping ship.

You stat that you are glad to see us go as it will give everyone a more level competition, if you can see that and everyone else can see that, why cant the powers to be see that! maybe you should walk into the office and say for the better of the game let them go, no strings attached, remember we didnt destroy the combined comp, we have enjoyed our time in the combined comp and dont intend to go back to rotating games at the same venue with 5 other A Grade teams

I just returned from a trip away at the Gold Coast with the 1st and 3rd Grade players, there is no way I'm telling anyone in our club they have to leave our club because we cant accomodate. Just remember we have numbers and it is a numbers game! I wish All Saints all the best for 2011 but you shouldnt worry about the forum, you have enough worries on your hands, Valley, LCC, Liverpool Titans and Hinchinbrook, alot of teams for such a small area, some clubs will fold!
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
disco stu
Member Avatar
Country Origin
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Blue devil makes a valid point, if other clubs can see the Wests A grade comp would be better off without city and the eagles then why is there resistance to keep them there? While ever the drama keeps going with the power struggle over these two clubs then there isn't going to be anything positive to come out of it. Once the dust settles and this is resolved we can talking footy again but decisions need to be made quickly for the good of the game and the benefit of the clubs and put this to bed once and for all.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Outsider
Park Footy
[ * ]
as an outsider all boards & clubs have ruined the largest rugby league competition in Australia
you have made the AFL job a lot easier in the greater western area, there presence has already
been felt this has only made there job easier.
Bring on the Western Sydney AFL side. :drink:
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Highlander
Member Avatar
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
LOL outsider go away troll this is a forum for Rugby league weather or not we agree but everyone here is for League always have always will!!
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Outsider
Park Footy
[ * ]
Dont mean to offend you highlander, but wasn't a group 6 ground taken over by AFL about 15 - 20 yrs ago
not trying to offend anyone just stating facts. I find what has occured with the joint competition very
amusing, At a time when AFL are trying get a foot hold in the greater western Sydney.
AFL already have 2 very high profile players ( Izzy & hunt) with more to come, where do you think izzy's
brother might end up.
While AFL are doing everything they can to grow there sport Rugby League is doing nothing.
So i am LOL.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
DevelopmentCoach
Harold Matthews
[ *  * ]
I really hate feeding the trolls. But Eli (Izzy's brother - That guy AFL just spent millions on, without seeing if he could kick a ball) has just signed a 3 year deal with Parra
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Highlander
Member Avatar
NRL
[ *  *  *  * ]
Outsider
Nov 28 2010, 05:06 PM
Dont mean to offend you highlander, but wasn't a group 6 ground taken over by AFL about 15 - 20 yrs ago
not trying to offend anyone just stating facts. I find what has occured with the joint competition very
amusing, At a time when AFL are trying get a foot hold in the greater western Sydney.
AFL already have 2 very high profile players ( Izzy & hunt) with more to come, where do you think izzy's
brother might end up.
While AFL are doing everything they can to grow there sport Rugby League is doing nothing.
So i am LOL.
Try 8 years ago AFL with the assistance of Council ATTEMPTED to throw Bowral of there home ground of 70 years off. Bowral Jnrs fought hard and got there home ground back sharing it with AFL, Oztag and the Snrs which re formed due to AFL attacks on the jnr club by jnr committe members . And your right the CRL NRL didnt do a thing to assist but now in 2010 the jnrs have have doubled there numbers since then (still not a big club but improvment is the key) and the Snr club even though battling on the field off the field is getting stronger and like all clubs will have its day in the sun soon enough.

The dumbest thing about that is AFL could have taken Welby oval(recently redeveloped) or Moss vale showground which are in far better condition than Loseby but they wanted a scalp!! it should have been a early warning to all. Hopfully lessions learned
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
E.A.S.T CTWN
Member Avatar
Club Footy
[ * ]
Well i am not suprised the AFL is doing what it is, there program and funding that targets kids is really good, the only problem i see is that you have to like the game to play the game, and well not many like the game out this way. They have mega bucks to spend and no doubt will increase there presence as the 2nd Sydney team get closer to entering the comp. You talk about Izzy and Hunt, great Rugby league players but it shows us in Rugby League that your struggling when you have to raid our players and not produce your own.

But i am with Highlander, this is a Rugby League forum, get your own outsider, throw the money around but its a very basic game that will not fit into a true Rugby League Heartland.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
disco stu
Member Avatar
Country Origin
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Outsider
Nov 28 2010, 05:06 PM
AFL already have 2 very high profile players ( Izzy & hunt) with more to come, where do you think izzy's
brother might end up.
While AFL are doing everything they can to grow there sport Rugby League is doing nothing.
So i am LOL.
You'll find that the signings of those ex NRL players were moreso about the publicity and marketing of the new AFL franchises they will be representing which has been clearly stated by all forms of the media. The monies theyve been paid is from the AFL itself which was given to those new clubs to promote themselves in the market, what better way to grab peoples attention by signing ex league players who know nothing about the game :dunno: and the subsequent interest and curiosity with their development which will follow.

Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Outsider
Park Footy
[ * ]
DevelopmentCoach
Nov 28 2010, 07:45 PM
I really hate feeding the trolls. But Eli (Izzy's brother - That guy AFL just spent millions on, without seeing if he could kick a ball) has just signed a 3 year deal with Parra
What dose a contract mean, players get of there contracts very easily
these days.
Offline Profile Goto Top
 
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · W.S.D.J.R.L · Next Topic »
Locked Topic


www.wests.co.nr is an unofficial forum run by volunteer Rugby League Supporters
Posts, messages, views, expressions or opinions on this forum DO NOT represent the official view of ANY Football Club.

Free Domains Hosting at .co.nr