WE WANT A FAIR GO FOR OUR AREA, MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND MORE THAN 4 NRL GAMES AT CAMPBELLTOWN STADIUM
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| Blue Devil | Jan 2 2011, 10:43 PM Post #101 |
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Yeh we will wait and see, wait for your round 1, you should go to a secretaries meeting, everyone has teams that night, come round 1 and 50% success rate, you are forgetting I've been around, if these teams were all guaranteed why are West doing everything in there power to stop us, because they need us and that's the argument they are putting to NSWRL, They need us, if you did have enough teams would they do this? I wish you all the best but remember, there is a real world out there and your not in it! |
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| Couch Potatoe | Jan 3 2011, 10:33 AM Post #102 |
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burner you say most clubs have 18s coming through, but look at collies, most of there 18s have left, not jackets for winning comp, most of these players have gone to group 6 clubs. You talk about high paying group 6 clubs & the parramatta comp, but what do wests offer is there any prize money if so what is it, are clubs allowed to pay players, can they charge a gate, there is no incentive for players to stay in the wests comp. Is the draw out, how many teams 1st grade, reserve grade, how many teams in the pr-season cup, why has all this information not been released yet, ill tell you why wests havnt got a clue, this is all smoke & mirrors. You wll be lucky to get a 5 team first grade & 4 team reserve grade comp, if you have more than this at the start of the year, you wont have the same amount at seasons end, as teams will pull out when the going gets tough. |
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| Couch Potatoe | Jan 3 2011, 10:39 AM Post #103 |
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well said |
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| Mad Tiger | Jan 3 2011, 11:56 AM Post #104 |
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Couch, You say there is no incentive for players to stay in the wests comp, I say loyalty... We have had 2 of our juniors who have been playing elsewhere (Both being paid, 1 who has been playing Bundy Cup) and both are returning because they want to be part of the junior club they grew up with... On top of that, 2 of our 18's from last season have knocked back money from a certain poacher who is out at group 6 to stay with our club because they want to play with the club the grew up with and their mates... Its not about money for everyone... Some people play for the love of the game and their club, and i can tell you i would much rather have those players then the guys who go wherever they get the most coin... |
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| lovinfooty | Jan 3 2011, 12:32 PM Post #105 |
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Mad Tiger, wouldn't you like to see your boys playing in a strong comp not a diluted one that only has a couple of teams that are of first grade standard? It would only help the young blokes get to whatever potential they have instead of just a moderate level. |
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| Warriors78 | Jan 3 2011, 12:47 PM Post #106 |
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a lot of people dreaming about hope and loyalty here, more fantasy league. tiger when you're young blokes start seeing lesser players getting $200 a game in group 6 and are tired of playin the same teams week in week out, good luck with the transfers out |
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| Mad Tiger | Jan 3 2011, 03:07 PM Post #107 |
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Mate one of those young blokes knocked back a Toyota Cup deal with Penrith so that he could play with his mates, so i really dont think its about the money for him... Lovin - Of course i would love to see the boys playing in a strong competition, but thats not happening this year (who knows for the future). Im realistic that our side wouldnt be of first grade standard in group 6, but we are building our senior ranks at the club and who knows where we will be in a few seasons time... We are aiming to give our young blokes a path to senior football, we have one of if not the best junior clubs (depth wise) and up till now these players have dissapeared because we didnt have seniors, now we are working to rectify that and keep them at the club. We have a few people who have done great work for our seniors pulling in large sponsorship dollars etc and that is only helping build the club and change the negative attitude that so many have towards senior football in the area. |
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| Highlander | Jan 3 2011, 03:32 PM Post #108 |
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I cant beleave the attitiude some of the players from other clubs that have been approaching us not all group 6 clubs are offering massive money i dare most dont pay $200 a game which has been floated around on this forum. ive had heard storys of 5 players from Wests comp contact us wanting LMAO $500 a game thinking its a the standard rate we pay!!! |
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| lovinfooty | Jan 3 2011, 05:20 PM Post #109 |
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Do you believe that the side would be competitive in 3rd Grade? That seems to be a better level to build a club, then a small Wests Comp, just look at Appin. some of the Appin boys from last year were with Eaglevale years ago, even I played a season there 15 years ago. I don't believe they left because of the Seniors at your club as there has always been plenty of players available, just the standard of the competition, with mostly thugs running around, with a great standard in the Illawarra comp and Group 6. Good footy players want to play footy so they will go where the best footy is being played at the time. Unfortunately the negative attitude has been built over many years of a lot of talk and no action with the Senior competition as Wests have been reluctant to put any money into it, just look at the sides that have folded over the years. Also it does not help that the teams have to play on council grounds that have little to no maintenance and end up as solid as a rock. I know your home ground has recently had some top soil and other bits and pieces done but look at the other grounds in the area they do even have a fence around them and you can barely swing a cat in thier changerooms. With the large sponsorship dollars being bought in I can only applaud the club, as sponsorship is becoming harder to come by. I must ask though, if you can't pay players, you can only buy so much new equipment and you play on a council ground, where is this money going to? |
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| Couch Potatoe | Jan 3 2011, 06:00 PM Post #110 |
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well said, but its not the standard of the competition, its the mentality of the officials, the players, club officials & supporters, that have ruined the wests comp. It is about time wests had a complete clean out, the same people have been running this for 20 + yrs even multinationals dont have the same board for this long. Failure breeds faliure, you have a look at the last 20+ yrs. Madtiger you want to talk about loyalty, loyalty is dead & buried, there hasnt been loyalty in the wests comp for the past 20 yrs what will change now. LOL,LOL, Ha,Ha,Ha
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| Happyfan | Jan 3 2011, 09:02 PM Post #111 |
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It may take a couple of seasons to strenghen up the comps here but hopefully it will happen. I would like to ask you Blue Devil if this committee is so shocking, why is your junior base not moving. Also a couple of seasons ago didn't your club try to get a vote of no confidance against the committee but not one other club supported you. Don't say they were all scared to, they just didn't want to support you. IMO group 6 clubs will probably start complaining about Easts & City before the end of the season. |
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| WestsTragic12 | Jan 3 2011, 09:24 PM Post #112 |
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I landed in Campbelltown in the early nineties and the same people running it then are still running it now. Even back then the Wests comp was known for a few players taking cheap shots on people. Talk was if you were a player with some ability the safer place to play was group 6. I was playing then and thats what i was told. Hopefully the Wests comp can be a force within rugby league but there would seem to be a lot of obstacles in the way. They have 2 or 3 strong competitions around them which may or may not attract the quality players elsewhere. Obviously some players are wanting to play with their mates in the local comp but then that can also have a flow on affect with there being one strong side who gives other sides a good beating then possibly causing teams to forfeit because they don't want to play them or enforcing the mercy rule. They cannot play pay players and wether you like it or not having a bar facility helps improve the finances of the club. One massive point against Campbelltown as a whole is that there is no specific rugby league ground here. Even in the combined comp games at campbelltown were on cricket fields or glorified cow paddocks. Rugby can have a ground why cant league. Yes i know there is the stadium but the costs to the club to use the ground is very high and as far as i know the canteen is catered by a licenced firm. The more we keep setting up sub standard grounds or cricket pitches the more people aren't going to want you in their comp. I am from the country and the biggest appeal about rugby league out there is you can actually park your car inside the field and watch the football from your car. Think we all agree on one thing that we want rugby league to survive in this area but all this squabling isn't helping. The combined comp was destined to fail when both sides refused to release control of their respective teams or comps. If we could arrange a competition under one banner and have everyone going the same way it would benefit all. The competition in Illawarra is a good example that could be followed. I think we could have a much bigger and better comp here but if no one is willing to work together we are stuck in the position we are in now. just my thoughts |
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| Couch Potatoe | Jan 4 2011, 10:53 AM Post #113 |
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the bloked that knocked back a toyota cup deal, is not serious about his football, he is happy to play in a sub- standard 3 grade comp, this bloke is probably not even your junior, to use your words you probably poached him from another club, considering your club is well known for poaching players from other clubs. |
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| Couch Potatoe | Jan 4 2011, 11:12 AM Post #114 |
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everything you said is spot on, this will be the norm for the wests comp until they have a complete clean out & put some fresh blood with new ideas. as it is now wests have nothing to offer, this is why players go elsewhere. Also our council bend over backwards to help other sports, eg: Baseball/softball, cricket, soccer, afl, rugby etc, look at there grounds & facilitys, what dose council do for rugby league, nothing, sub-standard cow paddocks with cricket pitches in the middle, Sorry i must appologise council did spend 8 million dollars of tax payers money on wests stadium, they spent this money on a side that will play only 4 games there, do you call this money well spent. |
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| Warriors78 | Jan 4 2011, 11:42 AM Post #115 |
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and then demand $$$$$$ from volunteer sports clubs to use their white elephant stadium but you can't get the cost back coz the canteen is also whored out to sell stuff at kings ransom prices. I hope councillors supporting that waste of money got their votes. Tiger- whose your a and a reserve coaches? shame bout the split u guys would've bin a he'll of a senior club in 5 years time. seniors recruit, juniors poach what is the second best Footy ground in ctown? |
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| Couch Potatoe | Jan 4 2011, 11:49 AM Post #116 |
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come on, no one has let me know the answers to these questions, group 6 would be able answer these. I cant get a response as no one knows, great way to run a comp. Well i will answer a couple of these for you, collies will struggle to put senior sides on the park as they are damaged goods (jacket), easts & city will be in group 6, mac fields will struggle, bulldogs will struggle, add to this the new titans club who have no juniors, this will mean they have to poach players from other clubs, maybe thats whose poaching your players mad tiger. I here one of the wests clubs have a open cheque book. |
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| League-Forever | Jan 4 2011, 12:18 PM Post #117 |
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INTERESTING READING, BUT NOT AT ALL SUPRISED, SAME PEOPLE RUNNING THE GAME WHEN I PLAYED IN THE WEST'S COMP, SURELY THEY ARE AS STALE AS LAST WEEKS BREAD. HOW DOES ONE GET A GIG AT WEST'S, DOES ANYONE EVER VOTE THEM IN? OR IS IT NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO DO THE JOB. I HAVE HEARD SOME DISTURBING RUMOURS FROM YOUR NEIGHBOUR MAD TIGER, INVOLVING THE OFFICIALS, I AM SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THEM. |
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| disco stu | Jan 4 2011, 02:39 PM Post #118 |
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Finger pointing,
Council,Clubs & Wests bashing, is this what we are going to be talking about this season or are we going to talk about the footy ? Otherwise this thread will close fairly quickly. Yes people have opinions on the standard of footy which is good for debate but lets leave all the other stuff theres no need for it, i think we know what peoples feelings are on certain issues and theres no need to carry on with them here. If your unhappy with certain issues then carry out your grievances outside this forum. Lets tone it down a bit fellas otherwise the moderators will use the warning bars (under your avatar picture) which will raise members warning level if they keep overstepping the mark. |
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| Couch Potatoe | Jan 4 2011, 03:36 PM Post #119 |
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What do you want poeple to talk about, footy has been discused in every post i have read & every post i have put, i played in the campbelltown comp for a numbers of years & am now married & have children playing in the juniors, this the perfect forum for expressing my opinions & anyone else to express theirs, i have only stated the obvious. As long as i do not insult, de-fame or swear, why cant i express my concerns. this is the problem with rugby league at the moment, were not allowed to talk about the real issues of why our game is not moving forward. If you cant ask other clubs, your local councils, or your goverining bodies, who do you ask, this forum allows the people who would not normally get a say, to have there oppinion. Just remember this whole forum is based on rumor & opinion if you take peoples oppinons away you have nothing but rumors As an ex player & now as a father i have earnt the right to finnaly have a say. |
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| Mad Tiger | Jan 4 2011, 04:58 PM Post #120 |
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Serious are you any relation to the last fool that got banned from here... You say the bloke isnt serious about his football because he would rather play with his mates at the club he has grown up at.. You are an internet troll who is just trying to stir trouble... go and stick to your Group 6 forum and leave us to our own... You obviously care dearly about the wests comp otherwise you wouldnt be sticking your head in here every 5 minutes |
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is this what we are going to be talking about this season or are we going to talk about the footy ? Otherwise this thread will close fairly quickly. Yes people have opinions on the standard of footy which is good for debate but lets leave all the other stuff theres no need for it, i think we know what peoples feelings are on certain issues and theres no need to carry on with them here. If your unhappy with certain issues then carry out your grievances outside this forum.
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