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Wests JRL Senior Season 2011; A Grade
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Highlander
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NO You dont Couch potatoe because at the end of the day this forum was shut before because people were slaging people/council and officials and the forum nearly got sued for it!!!. If this gets shut again you will all get NO say!!

If you or anyone can't stay within boundaries set by the moderators YOU WILL BE BANNED simple really.

Express your view but no do not bag out clubs,officials or anything negative that can get the forum in trouble we dont need or want any trouble!!

Please keep everything civil for the sake of everyone enjoying the forum!! :drink:

The forum is for everyone and every club to enjoy we are not here to slander any clubs as that is unfair!!
Edited by Highlander, Jan 4 2011, 05:04 PM.
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Jan 4 2011, 05:02 PM
NO You dont Couch potatoe because at the end of the day this forum was shut before because people were slaging people/council and officials and the forum nearly got sued for it!!!. If this gets shut again you will all get NO say!!

If you or anyone can't stay within boundaries set by the moderators YOU WILL BE BANNED simple really.

Express your view but no do not bag out clubs,officials or anything negative that can get the forum in trouble we dont need or want any trouble!!

Please keep everything civil for the sake of everyone enjoying the forum!! :drink:

The forum is for everyone and every club to enjoy we are not here to slander any clubs as that is unfair!!
Sorry Highlander my intention was not to talk negatively about anyone at all. To be specific for the Wests comp to thrive we need to have a better experience for the players and the spectators. This would equal to good teams playing at a good rugby league grounds. Not sitting around the fence of a cricket ground and as a player the last place i wanted to be in a game was on a cricket pitch.

Maybe if we were able to lobby council to help get a few fields in Campbelltown that can be used for rugby league. I even had to watch a bundy game at waminda oval with a cricket pitch. We all should have been a little embarassed that we had a team in a NSWRL comp and couldn't have a field specific for rugby league. Even if we could have a few pitches taken out of the grounds at some places we could have great fields. I think this would be important for the wests comp to improve its product.

Even the training of the referees can improve a competition. If the referees are of good quality i would think the games themselves would be good. Getting people to referee is the problem though. Myself being a former player i am looking to try and start doing some refereeing when time permits.

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Coach Potatoe you wanted some answers - The Wests 2011 Senior competition will be run on similiar grounds to last years successful 2010 combined competition. When you're on a good thing - stick to it. That means entry fees. The gate receipts from the Wests Pre-Season competition will be used as prize money for Wests Grand Final day. As previously advised 8 Wests clubs have nominated First Grade and Reserve Grade with another 4 clubs nominating for Reserve Grade only (12 in total) but I'll be the first to admit that number will not make it to the starting post but at least Wests clubs are trying. As far as the draw is concerned - we'll until team nominations are confirmed that would be a wasted exercise. As far as player recruitment goes - that's up to the individual clubs but I personally know players that are getting their boots out of the moth balls and will lace up for the 2011 Reserve Grade competition in Wests as they can now play with their mates at a local club in a competition standard more to their talent or lack of talent. These guys just want a run. Lack of facilities, player recruitment, volunteers, finances, player and crowd behaviour are all concerns but if Group 6 has never sinned let them cast the first stone. Most Wests clubs are positive about the 2011 seniors competition - as I don't have a crystal ball - time will tell if this optimism pays any dividends but please be positive on this forum and not so negative.
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Jan 4 2011, 06:41 PM
Highlander
Jan 4 2011, 05:02 PM
NO You dont Couch potatoe because at the end of the day this forum was shut before because people were slaging people/council and officials and the forum nearly got sued for it!!!. If this gets shut again you will all get NO say!!

If you or anyone can't stay within boundaries set by the moderators YOU WILL BE BANNED simple really.

Express your view but no do not bag out clubs,officials or anything negative that can get the forum in trouble we dont need or want any trouble!!

Please keep everything civil for the sake of everyone enjoying the forum!! :drink:

The forum is for everyone and every club to enjoy we are not here to slander any clubs as that is unfair!!
Sorry Highlander my intention was not to talk negatively about anyone at all. To be specific for the Wests comp to thrive we need to have a better experience for the players and the spectators. This would equal to good teams playing at a good rugby league grounds. Not sitting around the fence of a cricket ground and as a player the last place i wanted to be in a game was on a cricket pitch.

Maybe if we were able to lobby council to help get a few fields in Campbelltown that can be used for rugby league. I even had to watch a bundy game at waminda oval with a cricket pitch. We all should have been a little embarassed that we had a team in a NSWRL comp and couldn't have a field specific for rugby league. Even if we could have a few pitches taken out of the grounds at some places we could have great fields. I think this would be important for the wests comp to improve its product.

Even the training of the referees can improve a competition. If the referees are of good quality i would think the games themselves would be good. Getting people to referee is the problem though. Myself being a former player i am looking to try and start doing some refereeing when time permits.

Mate im not aiming at you aslong as it keeps nicely i have no problem with people lobbying for better facilities for our game.

We just cant have bagging as people that watch this forum could have it shut then we all loose.

Thats all :cheers:
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I dont think anyone wants to be banned, it would seem that the comments are perhaps relevant as to why there is a lot of frustration, to not have a a ground suitable is a blight on the people whom control the grounds, i too watched the bundy team play on Waminda, very shameful for rugby league in Campbelltown, lets not forget, bundy games do get some TV coverage.

I do see your point Highlander, no point in bagging i am sure the views of most have been expressed, perhaps now we could see some solutions to the problems, but to simply say they must go ( maybe they need to) in my opinion does not solve the problems.

If i were running the West comp, i would have started with 2nd grade, 3rd grade and 18's and build from there. My understanding also is that the current Mayor of Campbelltown is also a director at West's if true then why doesnt all clubs lobby him for improved grounds.

Lets here some more solutions on here.
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Jan 3 2011, 09:02 PM
It may take a couple of seasons to strenghen up the comps here but hopefully it will happen. I would like to ask you Blue Devil if this committee is so shocking, why is your junior base not moving. Also a couple of seasons ago didn't your club try to get a vote of no confidance against the committee but not one other club supported you. Don't say they were all scared to, they just didn't want to support you. IMO group 6 clubs will probably start complaining about Easts & City before the end of the season.
It's obvious that you have connections to thewests jrl, firstly we didn't put a vote of no confidance to the Wests Juniors Board, it was dramtised theratrically in a hardly smart way, and yes clubs were ask to support Wests Juniors and clubs then asked for a secret ballet that was refused, yes clubs were scared, and a secret ballet would off been a different result. Still not the result we would of wanted, we wouldn't bother asking for a vote of no confidance, most clubs are run by Mums and Dads of the under 6's, that care about 6's, our club has a buisness man, accountant and Chairman of a board running our club, yes our juniors will remain apart of West, why? Cause junior competition is about kids playing sport!

You talk about us being a problem in G6, get this one num nut, since our time in Canterbury Comp, they have asked us every year to go there, open arms, when we approached G6 for 2011 open arms, our club has dicapline that makes our club special, have a look and see if there has been any on or off field incidents that doesn't include our committee standing up and fighting for what's right, we get rid of troublemakers and do what's right for the game! This will be my last posting on the Wests Juniors Forum, better things to talk about on the Group 6 forum, good luck with you comp and look forward to see you merge with Parra or Canterbury!
Edited by disco stu, Feb 24 2011, 02:17 PM.
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so what is the number 2 league field in ctown? wests tragic spot on, totally embarrasing the areas league grounds compared to other areas & in a nswrl comp as well like waminda. yep its a critism of council whats the solution? keep complaining because the squeaky wheel gets the oil
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Jan 4 2011, 07:52 PM
Coach Potatoe you wanted some answers - The Wests 2011 Senior competition will be run on similiar grounds to last years successful 2010 combined competition. When you're on a good thing - stick to it. That means entry fees. The gate receipts from the Wests Pre-Season competition will be used as prize money for Wests Grand Final day. As previously advised 8 Wests clubs have nominated First Grade and Reserve Grade with another 4 clubs nominating for Reserve Grade only (12 in total) but I'll be the first to admit that number will not make it to the starting post but at least Wests clubs are trying. As far as the draw is concerned - we'll until team nominations are confirmed that would be a wasted exercise. As far as player recruitment goes - that's up to the individual clubs but I personally know players that are getting their boots out of the moth balls and will lace up for the 2011 Reserve Grade competition in Wests as they can now play with their mates at a local club in a competition standard more to their talent or lack of talent. These guys just want a run. Lack of facilities, player recruitment, volunteers, finances, player and crowd behaviour are all concerns but if Group 6 has never sinned let them cast the first stone. Most Wests clubs are positive about the 2011 seniors competition - as I don't have a crystal ball - time will tell if this optimism pays any dividends but please be positive on this forum and not so negative.
i applaud your honesty, but where are all these player coming from easts & city are taking almost 200 players to group
6. Where were all these players last year to play in the grades you metioned, you do your own maths there will not be
enough players. I hope you can prove me wrong but i dont think you will.
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As a former club committeman myself and our experiences in dealing with council, we found that council treat sporting clubs much like developers in so much they expect some sort of co - contribution to costs for any interested sporting infrastructure works . Council will first look at clubs who help themselves firstly than those who simply have their hand out all the time.Unfortunately thats how it is. Moss Vale for example wouldnt have had their clubhouse built, oval sprinkler upgrade,road sealed and lighting upgrade if they didnt dip into their own pockets also.

One thing we found is you must be constant and always declaring your interest in what you want done to council regardless if you have money to spend or not. If you start to be quiet then your concerns will fall of their radar and they will focus their attention to someone or somewhere else.
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Disco - Agree with your comments re Councils - spot on.
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Blue Devil
Jan 5 2011, 12:18 PM
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Jan 3 2011, 09:02 PM
It may take a couple of seasons to strenghen up the comps here but hopefully it will happen. I would like to ask you Blue Devil if this committee is so shocking, why is your junior base not moving. Also a couple of seasons ago didn't your club try to get a vote of no confidance against the committee but not one other club supported you. Don't say they were all scared to, they just didn't want to support you. IMO group 6 clubs will probably start complaining about Easts & City before the end of the season.
It's obvious that you have connections to the Campbelltown mafia, firstly we didn't put a vote of no confidance to the Wests Juniors Board, it was dramtised theratrically in a hardly smart way, and yes clubs were ask to support Wests Juniors and clubs then asked for a secret ballet that was refused, yes clubs were scared, and a secret ballet would off been a different result. Still not the result we would of wanted, we wouldn't bother asking for a vote of no confidance, most clubs are run by Mums and Dads of the under 6's, that care about 6's, our club has a buisness man, accountant and Chairman of a board running our club, yes our juniors will remain apart of West, why? Cause junior competition is about kids playing sport!

You talk about us being a problem in G6, get this one num nut, since our time in Canterbury Comp, they have asked us every year to go there, open arms, when we approached G6 for 2011 open arms, our club has dicapline that makes our club special, have a look and see if there has been any on or off field incidents that doesn't include our committee standing up and fighting for what's right, we get rid of troublemakers and do what's right for the game! This will be my last posting on the Wests Juniors Forum, better things to talk about on the Group 6 forum, good luck with you comp and look forward to see you merge with Parra or Canterbury!
I would have to agree with Blue Devil regarding the vote of no convidence unfortunately in my opinion had it be handled differently by both his club and the board I am sure a different result would of happened that night truth be known no one has faith in the board but why would you stand up and vote against them to be vilified first opportunity they get then you have other clubs run by spineless suckholes that have their heads so far up others backsides that they get told how to run their club and bow to their ever needs as to not to upset the status quo... then to be screwed over by them at every opportunity
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Not sure were but i think it was on this forum but someone wrote tht the mayor of Campbelltown was on the Wests board. If this is correct can't we simply get some information of him to look at how we could establish a few quality rugby league grounds in Campbelltown. I am actually very jealous of the Harlequins ground. It is in prime position and does not get touched by any other sport. I don't even think they have juniors on there.
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Jan 5 2011, 09:19 PM
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Jan 5 2011, 12:18 PM
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Jan 3 2011, 09:02 PM
It may take a couple of seasons to strenghen up the comps here but hopefully it will happen. I would like to ask you Blue Devil if this committee is so shocking, why is your junior base not moving. Also a couple of seasons ago didn't your club try to get a vote of no confidance against the committee but not one other club supported you. Don't say they were all scared to, they just didn't want to support you. IMO group 6 clubs will probably start complaining about Easts & City before the end of the season.
It's obvious that you have connections to the Campbelltown mafia, firstly we didn't put a vote of no confidance to the Wests Juniors Board, it was dramtised theratrically in a hardly smart way, and yes clubs were ask to support Wests Juniors and clubs then asked for a secret ballet that was refused, yes clubs were scared, and a secret ballet would off been a different result. Still not the result we would of wanted, we wouldn't bother asking for a vote of no confidance, most clubs are run by Mums and Dads of the under 6's, that care about 6's, our club has a buisness man, accountant and Chairman of a board running our club, yes our juniors will remain apart of West, why? Cause junior competition is about kids playing sport!

You talk about us being a problem in G6, get this one num nut, since our time in Canterbury Comp, they have asked us every year to go there, open arms, when we approached G6 for 2011 open arms, our club has dicapline that makes our club special, have a look and see if there has been any on or off field incidents that doesn't include our committee standing up and fighting for what's right, we get rid of troublemakers and do what's right for the game! This will be my last posting on the Wests Juniors Forum, better things to talk about on the Group 6 forum, good luck with you comp and look forward to see you merge with Parra or Canterbury!
I would have to agree with Blue Devil regarding the vote of no convidence unfortunately in my opinion had it be handled differently by both his club and the board I am sure a different result would of happened that night truth be known no one has faith in the board but why would you stand up and vote against them to be vilified first opportunity they get then you have other clubs run by spineless suckholes that have their heads so far up others backsides that they get told how to run their club and bow to their ever needs as to not to upset the status quo... then to be screwed over by them at every opportunity
spot on jolly couldnt have said it better myself
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Jan 5 2011, 03:47 PM
As a former club committeman myself and our experiences in dealing with council, we found that council treat sporting clubs much like developers in so much they expect some sort of co - contribution to costs for any interested sporting infrastructure works . Council will first look at clubs who help themselves firstly than those who simply have their hand out all the time.Unfortunately thats how it is. Moss Vale for example wouldnt have had their clubhouse built, oval sprinkler upgrade,road sealed and lighting upgrade if they didnt dip into their own pockets also.

One thing we found is you must be constant and always declaring your interest in what you want done to council regardless if you have money to spend or not. If you start to be quiet then your concerns will fall of their radar and they will focus their attention to someone or somewhere else.
may be your council is easier to lobby than ours or may be your controlling body sypported you more than
they do here.
for those that dont know city was moved from dfo to orana park with a 99yr lease, then when wests/newtown
relocated here city were kicked off & put on the athletics track, then kicked off that & moved to stromferry reserve.
Council promised them they would look after them, but now they have a unfenced ground that they have to share with
cricket, this ground is not suitable for senior football, it is more of a cow paddock, with tiny facilities.
If this how they treat the oldest club in campbelltown, what chance of my club, or anyother club getting anything from our council.
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Jan 6 2011, 05:43 PM
Some rumors/trumors of late -With Ron Cameron no longer involved at the club Bulldogs team manager gary scott has shifted to Macarthur Bulls as has several players who have commenced training with the Bulls and are certain Bulldogs will not be fielding a side this year even Tom Perry reserve grade is said to have pulled the pin and looking at other options concerned at player numbers - also word around the Ingleburn Hotel is RSL are planning a jump to Mt Annan to play 3 rd division with serval others training at the new Titans or a merge with Eaglevale is also been mentioned to form 2 teams and stay in West comp. I hav been advised the west comp may resemble a little like this below -
1st Grade - Titans - All Saints - Eaglevale - Minto
Reserve Grade - Warriors - Hinchinbrook - Mac Fields ??? - LCC ??? - Titans - All Saints.

Hopefully only talk but info is coming through players from all clubs so not looking promising for 2011 which is a shame for a club like All Saints that will have 2 geniune teams of standard.

I know nothing of the RSL/Eaglevale rumour... If it was happening i would know about it...
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Rumor was generated from an RSL contact who let thier intensions be known to all listening - source was a runner for last years 3rd grade and is still involved in the club. i hear on the grape vine that All Saints will look to join Parramatta comp if Wests cannot field a viable comp and certian wests clubs sitting on the side lines watching Easts/Citys movements will look to make a late dash at applying to Group 6 although the chances of that are as good as wests putting together a 5 team 1st grade comp of any quality - sorry to sound negative but if i were a wests club id be wary of a merger with Parramatta similar to a few years ago when collies/bulldogs/all siants were sent packing but i hope i am wrong for the sake of footy in the local area.
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The Clubs sitting on the sidelines better get the act in order and assist in building a wests comp as they wont get in group6!! Alot of clubs have said they dont anymore than the 2 thats been agreed.

And Mt annan like us or any third grade team cant sign to many players from the wests comp as it will affect there points third grade clubs only get 180 points(I think) and players from wests ive been told are upto 25 points per player. Our captain came from Ashcroft last year and even though they didnt have a snr team it cost us 25points

I think this is to try and keep thirds as even as possable not have one side just get a full imported team and win it hands down.
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Just wanted to add to this discussion. If the Wests comp were to merge with say Parramatta and the players do not wish to travel there every weekend and would prefer going out to group 6 (i'm omly talking hypothetically) there is every possibility that these guys will get turned away because there isn't enough room in the points system for them to play.

I understand the need for a points system no doubt but there are circumstances where someone will get turned away from a club and they would be looking for a sport to play. I would hate to think we couldlose young players to rival codes because of the points system.

I'm all for the points system it is sorely needed but we don't want to lose players to rival codes if the wests comp does not form.
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I totally understand wests tragic 12 but its a system where if a club is over its points there is always a club that is under!! If for expample Moss vale are at there limit id say Mittagong or bowral/robbo would be under and they could go there!!
Points system is good as it pushes clubs to retain there local talent which in group 6 keeps the locals at the games to watch there friends and family at there local club :correct: .
If players get turned away by a club they can always contact the group committee where im sure Warren or Greame would gladly point these players to a club that is under there points or low on numbers. As im sure the wests JL would do for there clubs aswell :correct:
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Let it be known that All Saints are committed to the Wests competition and have not discussed the Parramatta competition. If the Wests seniors competition doesn't get the numbers for a viable compeition than in my opinion I'd imagine Wests would look at joining the Sydney Metropolitan competition that was successfully run last year with 16 teams in 2 divisions of A grade and A Reserve grade with teams from the South Sydney, Balmain, St George and Canterbury-Bankstown junior leagues. This would be a better option than Parramatta but you can't make a decision now as Parramatta and the above mentioned Sydney Metro competition are subject to team nominations. The next Wests secretaries meeting will be interesting as there will be a very strong indication of which clubs are serious about nominating senior teams and which are dreaming. Liverpool Titans will be strong as rumour says they have recruited from the 2009 Valley side that won Reserve Grade undefeated in Group 6/Marconi's Reserve grade premiership winning 2010 team and some from Easts.
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