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Group 6 - Season 2011
Topic Started: Nov 5 2010, 09:46 AM (134,550 Views)
Blue Devil
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jeb
Mar 23 2011, 09:18 PM
7yearitch
Mar 23 2011, 07:49 PM
tc6_11
Mar 23 2011, 07:22 PM
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Mar 23 2011, 05:44 PM
oparnz82
Mar 23 2011, 04:13 PM
From all the signings and or rumoured signings claimed by east c'town this season it will be interesting to see how they can stay under the points cap.... Clubs may be tempting fate by trying to cut down on their points by claiming certain players as 2 or 10 point players, when perhaps technically they are not. Surely clubs will not be that naive or foolish this season given what happened to the Oakdale club last year.. good luck. I have also heard that the finals for the pre season knockout may be moved from Picton this sat night, to give the picton club some respite from the tragedy of last weekend..
wouldnt have a clue bout that but sounds like they may struggle ... I aslso herd that some teams get more than others can that be confirmed by anyone ???
This is the structure
A club is allowed 300 points for it's First & Reserve Grade,
add on an extra 50 if you have an 18's, and another 50 if you have 3rd grade.
So Easts must stay under 400 points for the weekend if all 4 grades are playing, whereas a club like Oakdale will have to stay under 300.
im sure easts monitor there points very closely, i think g6 committee has done a good job of getting points out there so it shouldnt be a hard job managing them
how does the points work with the bulls,eagles n roos as new clubs to the g6 gettin all there players from different clubs from the west comp
The bulk of our players are 2 point players, remembering we have built a club over the past 5 years, we still have a massive amount of players that played in our 2007 premiership winning team, we have selected a few bundy players and will commit to stay under the points system, we had a point system in Bundy cup so it's nothing knew to us.

We are all looking for a great year also celebrating The Eagles 50th Anniversary, you should know Jeb, your loyalty seen you there celebrating our clubs 40th Anniversary, the good old days, least you got a premiership jacket with us!
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footylover
Mar 22 2011, 08:58 PM
just talkin to mate and hot word is eagles to be at full strength for the first time this year plus 2 massive signings today aswell and both will be in this week ...
Yeh, who are the 2 signings, I'm excited
if you seen earlier i said who they were but can you confirme it bd ???
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We are in negotiations at the moment, and been weary of the points system, we do have 1 or 2 players signed that may be moving on to bigger and better things, I will know more by the end of the week
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[/quote]This is the structure
A club is allowed 300 points for it's First & Reserve Grade,
add on an extra 50 if you have an 18's, and another 50 if you have 3rd grade.
So Easts must stay under 400 points for the weekend if all 4 grades are playing, whereas a club like Oakdale will have to stay under 300.
[/quote]I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong TC but were you not allowed an extra 10% (30) points last year?because you dont have juniors.
Edited by Maverick, Mar 24 2011, 07:05 PM.
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After Oakdale had all their points taken off them last year (which were won fairly), they had to apply to all the clubs at a group 6 meeting for concessions.
Oakdale didn't get the ammendments to the points system (which would have been applied to all clubs) that they wanted, in the end they got 330 points, for 2010 season only. (Round 7 onwards)
It turned out to be useless anyways, because when the club lost these points, most of the reserve graders that cost Oakdale the penalty never returned, and Oakdale played out the season with about 13 players in Reserve Grade, never surpassing more than 250 points for the weekend.
This year, Oakdale has no problem, majority of the boys are into their 4th year with the club, and with 40 players on the books, a total of just over 200 points is quite good.
The point system used to be different, it was franked by demographics, so Oakdale and other small area's got more points as opposed to Camden, Narellan, Picton. Also player values were different.
Can someone tell me when the points system changed to it's current state? I think it was 2009
Edited by tc6_11, Mar 25 2011, 07:26 AM.
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Is Oakdale still allowed to claim The Oaks & Warragamba jnrs as 2 point players ?
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League club 'shattered'

http://www.wollondillyadvertiser.com.au/news/local/news/general/league-club-shattered/2110786.aspx

THE Picton Magpies rugby league club is in shock after the loss of two of their members in a car accident on Saturday.Both Peter Molden and Lachlan Simpson, who were killed in a car accident on Saturday afternoon, were long-time members of the club.

Senior club president Darren Jones said "the whole club was pretty shattered".

"They were both in the reserve grade side and in the same team," he said.

"They were pretty loveable kids; they were larrikins. Because we are such a tight club, they're all really good friends."

Mr Jones said Lachlan had been a member of the club since he was five and Peter had been playing with the club about the same length of time.

"They were both good players, they have been members of numerous premiership sides," he said. "They will be extremely missed by everyone."

The coaching staff brought club members together last night to talk about the accident.

Lachlan's mother Jane has been involved with the club for many years as a secretary and member of the junior and senior club committees.


Moderators Note: Sympathies & condolences to the families of the young boys that were tragically killed on the weekend and to the Picton Club also.
Edited by disco stu, Mar 25 2011, 12:39 PM.
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Mar 25 2011, 09:13 AM
Is Oakdale still allowed to claim The Oaks & Warragamba jnrs as 2 point players ?
NO,
We never were allowed to do that. It was put to us that we could claim warragamba juniors as locals, but we rejected it because it does not build good rapore with the other clubs.
There is an understanding that if an "Oakdale Junior" (Player that resides in Oakdale) returns to us from The Oaks, he is a 2 pointer.
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Mittagong and Moss Vale in hot water
BY LAUREN WRIGHT
http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/news/local/sport/rugby-league/mittagong-and-moss-vale-in-hot-water/2114216.aspx

MITTAGONG and Moss Vale rugby league clubs have found themselves in trouble in the Group 6 pre-season competition. Both have been accused by Group 6 of not taking the competition seriously. Mittagong have not fielded a full strength side for any of the four matches, and Chairman of Group 6, Grahame Andrews, said it was "disappointing".

"I'm very, very disappointed with the way they've treated the competition," he said.

Andrews said the idea of a pre-season competition was something the clubs wanted two years ago, and was then brought into effect.
The Lions fielded only 13 men for their matches on Sunday, and Andrews said they also failed to field a full strength side against Milton Ulladulla on Saturday.
Both clubs have said they have suffered from missing key players, and Andrews said this has been taken into account.

With over $3000 prize money up for grabs, Andrews said he expected more of both sides.

No action is expected to be taken against the clubs, but Andrews said the issue would be brought up at a committee meeting later in the year.

Moderators note: While i cant speak for Mittagong, Moss Vales absence of key players i posted on here previously , plus the article from wednesday paper also, you take any match seriously but it cant be helped if players are unavailable.

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Mar 25 2011, 09:53 AM
disco stu
Mar 25 2011, 09:13 AM
Is Oakdale still allowed to claim The Oaks & Warragamba jnrs as 2 point players ?
NO,
We never were allowed to do that. It was put to us that we could claim warragamba juniors as locals, but we rejected it because it does not build good rapore with the other clubs.
There is an understanding that if an "Oakdale Junior" (Player that resides in Oakdale) returns to us from The Oaks, he is a 2 pointer.
Fair enough , just wanted to clear the warragamba thing up as i never heard what the outcome was or it fell of my radar one or the other. :dunno:
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Hey Disco, it says $3000 prize money.
Do you know what the split is?
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so guys who does everyone think will win the pre season comp tomorrow night???
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Mar 25 2011, 10:13 AM
Hey Disco, it says $3000 prize money.
Do you know what the split is?
Dont know , only quoting the report from local paper
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Should be a good nights footy sat night. As for the who will win, I think its a very open affair. Given the games are short it depends who gets off to the best start, I have seen all bar Thirlmere play so far and there isnt much between the teams in this shorter format. I know the workers have a few injuries at the moment and that may work against them. Easts look good and have plenty of depth I think the shorter games suit them. Camden have been the sleepers and with some luck could be there as well. My tip Easts v workers in final... toss a coin, although the workers did have the edge in recent meetings.
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Mar 25 2011, 10:13 AM
Hey Disco, it says $3000 prize money.
Do you know what the split is?
If prize money for pre season comp is $3000 it would make more sense for a club to put in more effort to win this in four weeks than try to win the competition over 20 weeks for $5000.
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Mar 25 2011, 08:24 PM
tc6_11
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Hey Disco, it says $3000 prize money.
Do you know what the split is?
If prize money for pre season comp is $3000 it would make more sense for a club to put in more effort to win this in four weeks than try to win the competition over 20 weeks for $5000.
I dont think these guys play the whole year for just the money. Money may dictate who they play for, but at the end of the day these guys play because they just want to play footy, and the prestige of winning the comp should be the icing on the cake. Winning the pre season is a start but who remembers who won the pre season comp.

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Sorry Maverick I wasnt meaning to imply it was the players that played for the money I was more suggesting that perhaps the group need to look at the prizemoney assigned to the season proper as opposed to the preaseason comp. I might be wrong but I think the prizemoney for winning a comp 10 years ago would be alot more than what it is now.
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Arguably money is much harder to come by and not as many businesses which may be struggling put in what they used to.
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With regard to the preseason comp I have spoken to members of both Mittagong and Moss Vale and both clubs take the preseason seriously, I think the problem lies with Friday and Saturday night games as a lot of the lads are tradies and work on rural properties 6 pm games on fridays these guys are still at work, Saturdays are filled with weddings 21st birthdays etc; maybe if all the games were on Sundays a different result would have been possible, as most of the teams that played on Sundays were at or near full strength.
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Mar 26 2011, 10:21 AM
With regard to the preseason comp I have spoken to members of both Mittagong and Moss Vale and both clubs take the preseason seriously, I think the problem lies with Friday and Saturday night games as a lot of the lads are tradies and work on rural properties 6 pm games on fridays these guys are still at work, Saturdays are filled with weddings 21st birthdays etc; maybe if all the games were on Sundays a different result would have been possible, as most of the teams that played on Sundays were at or near full strength.
I agree,
The Sunday at Oakdale was fantastic, there was a full crowd, bright sunny day, and good footy. It kicked off at 3.30pm, so i dont see the harm in having everyone there, even if it were to kick off at 10.30am.
Also Moss Vale had been allocated the Sunday game, but knocked it back because Willie McDonald was getting married.
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