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Group 6 - Season 2011
Topic Started: Nov 5 2010, 09:46 AM (134,541 Views)
Blue Devil
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tc6_11
Apr 4 2011, 02:51 PM
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Apr 4 2011, 10:53 AM
I still think the $8 per head, even for players is a bit rich. The mrs says she isn't coming every week now.
Can't 100% confirm, but i think it is still in the clubs hands as to what they charge.
$8 is the max
What do you charge TC?
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Apr 3 2011, 09:16 PM
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Apr 3 2011, 05:33 PM
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Apr 2 2011, 09:06 AM
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Apr 2 2011, 07:43 AM
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Apr 1 2011, 11:22 PM
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Apr 1 2011, 03:44 PM
oparnz82
Apr 1 2011, 09:25 AM
I think that is a common sense approach tc. Does the points committee just take a clubs word for it that a player is worth a certain amount of points? Is there any comprehensive background checks on player histories? Being a research and footy tragic I know for certain that you would be surprised about a number of players and where their junior origins are... There needs to be full transparency and rigorous background checks on players, the internet is a marvelous tool and unfortunately no one can hide from their past anymore. In relation to Easts, there are a very well run club with a strong playing roster and loads of depth. I find it unusual that they have seen the need to seek so many new players when I thought they had been building a strong club for a number of years?? By signing blokes like, dunley, waqa, neemya, blunden, hoare etc, it seems to go against what easts have been building for a number of years now, especially now players are going to miss out who have been there a while. Looks as though they are trying to buy a comp? The points system was introduced to prevent teams from simply doing that. As for their points situation.. They should never have to worry about it, however I think this year they will.
When you say "buy a comp" you should ask around how much Mossvale spent last year to win that comp. If what I am told is correct they spent huge bickies last year.

And as I have said in an earlier post, Blunden is a 2 point Easts junior, so why wouldn't they want him and as far as the others go, I am sure the numbers have been crunched to make it work.
I find Blunden hard to believe. He played 2 years at Easts prior. He's already been at all saints for 3 years.
Poor form.
easts should punt thier developement co ordinater bloke :hey: his letting em down and he needs to give himself a few upper cuts :fight:
maybe fence sitters dad can do a better job he seems to be in the know and can keep thier player recruitment and points in order :rofl:

going out to check out camden and narellan tonight for a few :drink: i hear camden will run riot over a below par narellan outfit ;) by all reports narellan will struggle this season so ill jump on the odds for them to stir the pot at seasons end :yeah:
Where is Blue Devil? Has he been banned? Would be good to get some answers, do you know Disco?
I watched this young Blunden play last year and wasn't all that impressed and apart from the hit at Oakdale he hasn,t really stood out and I don't think it matters what point player he is and regardless of his past playing record is, he has to prove himself in group 6. I am not putting him down and wish him well, this is just my observation, he has been talked up a fair bit I just hope he can live up to it.
How long is an apprenticeship in G6? He played G6 last year for All Saints and was picked by the Eagles as their starting prop for this year. I dont think he has to prove himself to you or anyone else as long as the Eagles are happy with him. The talking up was more about the hit on Dave Lowe which was talked about by many (and deservedbly so) and the the other talk was more about the interpretatation of the 2 point rule between myself and TC. Last year he would be guaranteed a start with All Saints every game where this year he has to earn his spot every week. If he cant perform I am sure the Eagles will replace him.
Ok, sorry guys I'm back, we have looked strongly at our points and have no doubt Mat Blunden is 2 points, he started his rugby league career as an Eagle and played the Majority of his juniors as an Eagle, so as a number of other players we contracted!

The players like Hoare have been at our club for 4 years now, all the guys mentioned have already been at our club except Blunden that has returned to our club as he didn't want to play in the West Comp,

Damien Kennedy wasn't released or let go, he had some family matters to attend to and hopefully we will see him return!

Our club has also asked to sit down with the Group 6 Secretary and go through our entire club regarding points, we are more than happy to work within the points.

Us and City had a fantastic weekend and it's going to be a great season, it's so good dealing with the Group 6 management and Clubs!
Edited by Blue Devil, Apr 4 2011, 08:58 PM.
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This is an extreme grey area, Players like Hoare have been at your club for 4 years (i thought he played in England last year?), but they have not been in your A-Grade. I don't think this should count as service. They came to your club as JBC players so i think they should be classed as JBC. I think it would be considered an unfair advantage to recognise this as service. Ctown already has the benefit of the biggest junior base in the comp.
Just my thoughts
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I went to the easts city game as well
congrats to both clubs watched 2 top games in reggies & 1sts
easts are good there 9 ran amok but city will win there fair share this year as well
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Apr 4 2011, 09:49 PM
I went to the easts city game as well
congrats to both clubs watched 2 top games in reggies & 1sts
easts are good there 9 ran amok but city will win there fair share this year as well
is it right what they are doing on wests website, i think this is censorship in developed countries
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Apr 4 2011, 09:38 PM
This is an extreme grey area, Players like Hoare have been at your club for 4 years (i thought he played in England last year?), but they have not been in your A-Grade. I don't think this should count as service. They came to your club as JBC players so i think they should be classed as JBC. I think it would be considered an unfair advantage to recognise this as service. Ctown already has the benefit of the biggest junior base in the comp.
Just my thoughts
For the record we have classed Sammy Hoare as a 40 point player, he didn't play in England but did go over for a holiday, Sammy played at our club as a bundy player so we never put him Down as 2 points, I was just reffering to the fact he has been involved with us for 4 years!
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Apr 4 2011, 09:49 PM
I went to the easts city game as well
congrats to both clubs watched 2 top games in reggies & 1sts
easts are good there 9 ran amok but city will win there fair share this year as well
Yeh well said Warrior, hope you supported the Eagles!
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Apr 3 2011, 10:41 PM
also... more news on the oaks tigers i forgot to mention that we will be entering a team into the 2nd division competition aswell as having a 1st, 2nd grade and u18's :correct: :correct: :correct: :correct: :correct: :correct:
Congratulations to The Oaks, great effort which gives 2nd Div 8 teams, if any other club has an excess they could do the same, Appin should look at the Oaks, three years ago they were a 2nd Division club only, you have done your Group proud well done :winner:
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Apr 4 2011, 11:14 PM
tc6_11
Apr 4 2011, 09:38 PM
This is an extreme grey area, Players like Hoare have been at your club for 4 years (i thought he played in England last year?), but they have not been in your A-Grade. I don't think this should count as service. They came to your club as JBC players so i think they should be classed as JBC. I think it would be considered an unfair advantage to recognise this as service. Ctown already has the benefit of the biggest junior base in the comp.
Just my thoughts
For the record we have classed Sammy Hoare as a 40 point player, he didn't play in England but did go over for a holiday, Sammy played at our club as a bundy player so we never put him Down as 2 points, I was just reffering to the fact he has been involved with us for 4 years!
That's good.
This is where we need to be transparent
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Apr 5 2011, 04:22 AM
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Apr 3 2011, 10:41 PM
also... more news on the oaks tigers i forgot to mention that we will be entering a team into the 2nd division competition aswell as having a 1st, 2nd grade and u18's :correct: :correct: :correct: :correct: :correct: :correct:
Congratulations to The Oaks, great effort which gives 2nd Div 8 teams, if any other club has an excess they could do the same, Appin should look at the Oaks, three years ago they were a 2nd Division club only, you have done your Group proud well done :winner:
good stuff well done the oaks how good would it be if all clubs could field 3 grades and 18s and i agree it shows clubs like appin if you have good committe and advertise and generate sponsors and revenue it can be achieved :correct:
no jacket hunters at the oaks bar 1st grade and reggies which is how it should be :clap: good luck in 1st garde 2012 appin :hey:
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Apr 4 2011, 06:34 AM
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Apr 3 2011, 08:57 PM
Bulls 2div premiers good call
Once again appin look the goods well played
Boys
dont count your chickens before the hactch bulls had a few out and a few more to come in yet my mail is will become alot a stronger in coming weeks :correct:
appin beating kids from bowarl by 80 well done boys achieves alot for 2nd div and shows you should be in 1sts :hey: 2nd div is about blokes having fun not trophy hunters no one cares for em ask valley 09 collies 2010 once they have to go up the pull the pin and appin will do teh same been hiding in 3grade for years now and you hang do-do on the bulls who will have 1st grade next year after 1 year in the comp will appin?
your starting to sounds like a broken record. All of us players want to be playing reserve grade and to keep referring to us as jacket hunters shows you have no idea what you are talkign about. We are basically just a group of mates that are playing footy and having a beer afterwards, and the 5 or 6 new players we have didnt turn up until late in the pre season, so for a while we were actually short on numbers. We had 16 blokes on the weekend so had a few 18's on the bench, just dont have the players for firsts but hopefully that will change coming into the next 2 years but we would all much prepare to be testing ourselves in reserve grade at the moment. Credit to bowral on the weekend, they could have easily pulled the pin at half time but kept going for the full 70.
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BD the g6 website has your home ground listed as Hannaford Park, Wilton. Is this correct, temporary or what?
The name of the park doesn't come up on google maps.
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Apr 5 2011, 08:32 AM
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Apr 3 2011, 08:57 PM
Bulls 2div premiers good call
Once again appin look the goods well played
Boys
dont count your chickens before the hactch bulls had a few out and a few more to come in yet my mail is will become alot a stronger in coming weeks :correct:
appin beating kids from bowarl by 80 well done boys achieves alot for 2nd div and shows you should be in 1sts :hey: 2nd div is about blokes having fun not trophy hunters no one cares for em ask valley 09 collies 2010 once they have to go up the pull the pin and appin will do teh same been hiding in 3grade for years now and you hang do-do on the bulls who will have 1st grade next year after 1 year in the comp will appin?
your starting to sounds like a broken record. All of us players want to be playing reserve grade and to keep referring to us as jacket hunters shows you have no idea what you are talkign about. We are basically just a group of mates that are playing footy and having a beer afterwards, and the 5 or 6 new players we have didnt turn up until late in the pre season, so for a while we were actually short on numbers. We had 16 blokes on the weekend so had a few 18's on the bench, just dont have the players for firsts but hopefully that will change coming into the next 2 years but we would all much prepare to be testing ourselves in reserve grade at the moment. Credit to bowral on the weekend, they could have easily pulled the pin at half time but kept going for the full 70.
stats dont lie you guys been in 3rds 4 years now and won last year and now you adding another 2 years on to that to go up :cstars: you talk of reggies why not aim for 1sts as the oaks have :winner: appin and bulls in 1st next year gives a 12 team 1st grade :winner: if bulls can do in 2 years why will it take appin 6 years :finger: both clubs will be based as close to ctown as each other next year so the player pool is there to recruite from :correct:
ps not much difference i hear from reggeis and 3rd grade this year anyway so is res really that big a jump up :dunno:
Edited by mickrobbo, Apr 5 2011, 09:21 AM.
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All Saints jumped from 3rd to 1st grade last year after getting beaten by Appin in the GF. They didn't win many games but were competitive and their reggies made the semis. They would be there again if not for the split. If Appin's side was better than them why are they not forced to go up by G6 as they would be in any other graded competition. Its not fair to all the other sides in 3rd grade and is sounding like Valley in reserve grade the year before that all over again.
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Apr 5 2011, 09:58 AM
All Saints jumped from 3rd to 1st grade last year after getting beaten by Appin in the GF. They didn't win many games but were competitive and their reggies made the semis. They would be there again if not for the split. If Appin's side was better than them why are they not forced to go up by G6 as they would be in any other graded competition. Its not fair to all the other sides in 3rd grade and is sounding like Valley in reserve grade the year before that all over again.
got your info wrong, appin didnt even make the gf that year it was collies who won it
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Apr 5 2011, 10:17 AM
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Apr 5 2011, 09:58 AM
All Saints jumped from 3rd to 1st grade last year after getting beaten by Appin in the GF. They didn't win many games but were competitive and their reggies made the semis. They would be there again if not for the split. If Appin's side was better than them why are they not forced to go up by G6 as they would be in any other graded competition. Its not fair to all the other sides in 3rd grade and is sounding like Valley in reserve grade the year before that all over again.
got your info wrong, appin didnt even make the gf that year it was collies who won it
i think the message is still spot on but apinndog the fact is they went up to 1st no intention of aiming for reggies and thats being a runner up not winning a premiership :correct:
if appin win 3grade again this year group 6 have to tap them on the shoulder and its 1st or bust is the mail im hearing
teams like bowral and warragamba/robbo dont have the closeness of an area like ctown to draw on as appin does so they are geniune 3grade clubs appin showed in 94 they can have a 1st and res senior club time to re live teh glory days it can be done :cheers:
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How is Appin & Warragamba different? Warragamba have been in 3rd grade for as long as Appin and are quite competitive plus are a stones throw from a large rugby league nursury in Penrith, as Appin are with Campbelltown.Do we tell Warragamba to step up also?
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Apr 5 2011, 11:04 AM
How is Appin & Warragamba different? Warragamba have been in 3rd grade for as long as Appin and are quite competitive plus are a stones throw from a large rugby league nursury in Penrith, as Appin are with Campbelltown.Do we tell Warragamba to step up also?
as soon as they show they are capable and win the 3rd grade and are stronger the year after as appin are i belive you do need to tell them they have to push up as well as any other team in 2nd division should its about building for 1sts or playing 3rd string players or social pub footy for players of that standard
once a team dominates a lower division and get stronger it should be a given they go up grades
Edited by mickrobbo, Apr 5 2011, 11:11 AM.
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Some interesting results on the weekend, well done to the winning teams. Comp looks to be wide open this year as predicted. First rounds are sometimes tricky to get a good guide on. I believe Mossy were probably a little underdone with their preparation, but full credit to Mitta who put them away convincingly. The Oaks also were surprising winnersin a game that was dominated by penaltie
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Apr 5 2011, 10:17 AM
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Apr 5 2011, 09:58 AM
All Saints jumped from 3rd to 1st grade last year after getting beaten by Appin in the GF. They didn't win many games but were competitive and their reggies made the semis. They would be there again if not for the split. If Appin's side was better than them why are they not forced to go up by G6 as they would be in any other graded competition. Its not fair to all the other sides in 3rd grade and is sounding like Valley in reserve grade the year before that all over again.
got your info wrong, appin didnt even make the gf that year it was collies who won it
I apologize for getting the side wrong, but my point is that if you win the comp one year you should have to move up the ladder to at least the next division the following year. It has always been that way in any sport where you have different grades playing. Most teams know and expect they will have to push up when they win a comp and if they dont compete the following year they may come back down again the year after that.

P.S Will Appin get any real enjoyment or excitement from the game winning by cricket scores every week?

Edited by Maverick, Apr 5 2011, 01:56 PM.
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