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footybloke
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From what I understand... A decision will come down (no idea when) from NSWRL/CRL and both G6 and Wests will have to do what they are told...
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beefa
Sep 17 2011, 11:47 AM
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Sep 16 2011, 07:05 AM
Highlander
Sep 16 2011, 07:00 AM
Well the cat is out of the bag now IF TRUE
although it will be denied by Appin put money on it thats what ive been told ;) ;)
Does that mean No Appin 2012?
Appin 2012 will be in group 6 :P
That great to hear, but the question is, In what Grade?
Well fencey if the rumors r correct appins 18 s Wil push up to 3 rd s and there 3rds from this year off to collies
GOOD LUCK AT MACFILEDS BULLS PARRA HOPE YOU GOT A FUEL CARD WITH YOUR PACKAGE :laughing: :laughing: LONG DRIVE OUT TO OAKDALE :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: MAKE A FEW DROP OFFS AT CASCADES AND LEPPINGTON FOR THE OTHER DISLOYAL CLUBS ON YOUR WAY OUT :laughing: :laughing: PUT YOUR 3RDS BACK IN BOYS AND ITS ALL OVER BACK TO WAMINDA STOMFERRY AND SEDDON PARK :winner: WEST 2012 LOOK OUT WHAT A YEAR IT WILL BE :winner:
Your a clown beefa couldnt imagine y I'd need a fuel card training and playing in Camden :correct: MacArthur bulls Wil b as big as eagles in the near future :cheers: With the sponsors and committed people we have on board :winner: :winner: :winner:
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footybloke
Sep 17 2011, 08:23 PM
From what I understand... A decision will come down (no idea when) from NSWRL/CRL and both G6 and Wests will have to do what they are told...
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: good luck with that footybloke nswrl/crl telling poeple what to do stop the fight now :rofl: :rofl: is that the same as western sydey development dude telling me we wouldnt play in group 6 this year :laughing: :laughing: jl saying no players to be cleared to group 6 clubs or eagles banned for 2 years :laughing: or train play imposed :rofl: :rofl: love your work footybloke go have another beer with bobcat beefa and the rest of the brigade :drink: :drink:
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footybloke
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Mate, im neither for or against combined comp or individual comps.... All I am saying is that from my understanding, the situation has gone a lot higher than just local, and if the powers at be say to play combined, the clubs have to do what they are told.
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footybloke
Sep 18 2011, 06:26 PM
Mate, im neither for or against combined comp or individual comps.... All I am saying is that from my understanding, the situation has gone a lot higher than just local, and if the powers at be say to play combined, the clubs have to do what they are told.
The push was from "a lot higher" last time and it didn't work. Group 6 won't be forced into a combined comp again and this time G6 management will do what the clubs want. That ship has sailed & it's time to put the issue to rest and get on with both comps.
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footybloke
Sep 18 2011, 06:26 PM
Mate, im neither for or against combined comp or individual comps.... All I am saying is that from my understanding, the situation has gone a lot higher than just local, and if the powers at be say to play combined, the clubs have to do what they are told.
clubs do what there told :rofl: :rofl:your to use to jl regime and house maid secretaries being told what to do :rofl: :rofl:
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Sep 18 2011, 06:53 PM
footybloke
Sep 18 2011, 06:26 PM
Mate, im neither for or against combined comp or individual comps.... All I am saying is that from my understanding, the situation has gone a lot higher than just local, and if the powers at be say to play combined, the clubs have to do what they are told.
The push was from "a lot higher" last time and it didn't work. Group 6 won't be forced into a combined comp again and this time G6 management will do what the clubs want. That ship has sailed & it's time to put the issue to rest and get on with both comps.
to right both move on :correct: with east city bulls and appin to collies back in west what a comp it will be :clap: :clap: :clap:
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footybloke
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Fair enough black & White, however I don't like this idea of clubs not following directives from NSWRL/CRL... Too much Anarchy for mine.
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footybloke
Sep 19 2011, 08:34 AM
Fair enough black & White, however I don't like this idea of clubs not following directives from NSWRL/CRL... Too much Anarchy for mine.
Remember that clubs are run by volunteers - no one is paid by NSWRL or CRL - these people give up their time for no return just so their club can function. The Management committee are also volunteers - they are not employees of NSWRL or CRL either - they are voted in by the clubs. The management committee works for the clubs (though they seem to forget this at times) not for CRL. And while they are afiliated with the CRL they are not "owned" by them. In a "worst case scenario" situation Group 6 could vote to break away from the CRL and go it alone. I doubt that it would ever come to this but I suppose the option is there.
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footybloke
Sep 19 2011, 08:34 AM
Fair enough black & White, however I don't like this idea of clubs not following directives from NSWRL/CRL... Too much Anarchy for mine.
You have to remember if people are forced to do things a certain way will they volunteer there time on the weekend??

If you try and force your hand on people anarchy will always regin.

And who are the NSWRL/CRL to tell clubs who have been running these ways for years what to do?? Are they there on a sunday morning at 10am setting up canteens posts ETC ETC No thats silly buggers like us!!
Edited by Highlander, Sep 19 2011, 02:04 PM.
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Sep 19 2011, 08:34 AM
Fair enough black & White, however I don't like this idea of clubs not following directives from NSWRL/CRL... Too much Anarchy for mine.
good call :clap: we cant have clubs like east cambelltown and city do what they like and selfishly anondon where they come from and have other clubs think this is ok :finger: :finger: west would have been a better comp with these clubs and next year when told they have to come back they will have no choice but do what nswrl and west tell them not what blue devil and his city and mac fileds buddies want :nono: :nono: group 6 can be group 6 but without cambelltown clubs :winner:
good to see minto are the true champion team of cambelltown now east got beat :winner: :winner:
Edited by beefa, Sep 19 2011, 02:25 PM.
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the disbanding of the combine comp came from the old people out group 6 way hard workers yes what they couldnt do was admit that they too had rouge teams 1 game i seen was young Warragamba boy's 3 times in a game al in brawls started and once there supporters lent over fence drag opponents to fence and bash them it went to a hearing and wow did they see the fans do it NO they blamed a wests club that turned me over respect must be earned and yes it was lost that day at that hearing very sad Yes i would like to see a bigger comp for all but trust must come 1st consiliation 2nd and maybe a ruling from NSWRL &CRL is it EGOs there is alot on the forum it's just a game we all have to get up on mondays and go to work thats where we are all equal wake up an bury the EGO"S :correct: :clap: :rant: :rant:
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Beefa, i think you may need a history lesson, group 6 have had campbelltown teams participate in its competition since it's inception , notably is the kangaroos who were apart of group 6 when the CRL first formed as a governing rugby league body in 1946.

Clubs from the greater Campbelltown, New South Wales area participated in the 1st Division Group 6 competition from 1946- 1983. These clubs included:

Campbelltown City Kangaroos (1946–1983)
Campbelltown Warriors (1970–1983)
Campbelltown Collegians (1970–1983)
Ingleburn Bulldogs (1974–1983)
Leumeah Wolves (1971–1977)

Other clubs from Campbelltown to feature in the 2nd Division and 3rd Division leagues from 1973-1983 included:

Macquarie Fields Hawks
Cross Roads Tavern
Tharawal Ghosts
Airds Colts
Claymore Panthers
Campbelltown Sharks
Minto Cobras
Ingleburn RSL
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beefa
Sep 17 2011, 11:43 AM
WATCH TITANS TO BE AS BIG AS CABRRA NEXT YEAR AND BECOME THE SUPERPOWER CLUB IN NSW AND WITH BROWN AT THE HELM THEY ARE IN GOOD STED HE HAS DONE THE WEST JUNIOR LEAGUE PROUD AND DESERVES A MEDAL :clap: :clap: :clap:
bad call numnut
put titans in same area as 5 other struggling clubs
now thats the vision soon titans & lcc will kill off the smaller hinchbrook evu & ashcroft
5 clubs down to 2
just like the renamed ingo tigers killing off bulldogs minno & hawkies
ingleburn area 4 clubs down to 1 club
real smart stuff beef jerky
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You say they'll kill off the other clubs - but surely its up to them to step up their game?

LCC has been around forever now, and there used to be a hell of a lot more clubs in the area. Not to mention Valley and Ashcroft's grounds are what, 400m apart? How about Easts and Warriors? And ESA and City? Titans managed to pull in 7 junior sides this year - without any transfers from the Wests District, which means the players are out there.

Clubs should always be trying to grow, to improve, and if they don't, they die. Resting on your laurels is no way to run a football club.

Every club should try to become the next "Cabra" - because they are a success! If Easts didn't push to improve, they never play Bundy Cup. If All Saints didn't push to improve, Durrant Oval would have been the end of them. It's ignorant to think you shouldn't have to compete.
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beefa
Sep 19 2011, 02:23 PM
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Sep 19 2011, 08:34 AM
Fair enough black & White, however I don't like this idea of clubs not following directives from NSWRL/CRL... Too much Anarchy for mine.
good call :clap: we cant have clubs like east cambelltown and city do what they like and selfishly anondon where they come from and have other clubs think this is ok :finger: :finger: west would have been a better comp with these clubs and next year when told they have to come back they will have no choice but do what nswrl and west tell them not what blue devil and his city and mac fileds buddies want :nono: :nono: group 6 can be group 6 but without cambelltown clubs :winner:
good to see minto are the true champion team of cambelltown now east got beat :winner: :winner:
This is like dealing with dumb & dumber! Eagles, Kangaroos & Mac Bulls are now affiliated with Group 6 - they are now Group 6 clubs. If their general committees decide that they no longer wish to play in Group 6 then I imagine that they will apply to Wests or another comp to play there.

Who is this divine power that is going to make them do anything!!!

This attitude that clubs have to do as they are told is what is wrong with Wests -obviously the committee forgets why they are actually there - to work on behalf of all clubs (not just the in favour ones) and certainly not to tell clubs how high they are to jump.
Of course Group 6 follow decisions of CRL in regard to policies and procedures that are for the good of the game but they shouldn't have to commit suicide if told to do so. The joint comp in 2009 & 2010 was badly organised, thrown together without any planning and two separate bodies were trying to sail one ship - when it was obvious that things weren't going to get better Group 6 clubs made the decision to go back to a Group 6 comp.

Mac Bulls, Kangaroos & Eagles applied for affiliation with Group 6 and the General Committee voted to accept those applications. Through all the spit directed at them and the roadblocks put in front of them by Wests, they've had a pretty good year.
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Sep 19 2011, 04:13 PM
You say they'll kill off the other clubs - but surely its up to them to step up their game?

LCC has been around forever now, and there used to be a hell of a lot more clubs in the area. Not to mention Valley and Ashcroft's grounds are what, 400m apart? How about Easts and Warriors? And ESA and City? Titans managed to pull in 7 junior sides this year - without any transfers from the Wests District, which means the players are out there.

Clubs should always be trying to grow, to improve, and if they don't, they die. Resting on your laurels is no way to run a football club.

Every club should try to become the next "Cabra" - because they are a success! If Easts didn't push to improve, they never play Bundy Cup. If All Saints didn't push to improve, Durrant Oval would have been the end of them. It's ignorant to think you shouldn't have to compete.
DV ask those clubs close to you how happy they are about a new club formed in the middle of them and with an NRL name and cloours to match its ignorant to think its not RSL tigers senario all over again just in livo this time.
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Sep 19 2011, 04:15 PM
beefa
Sep 19 2011, 02:23 PM
footybloke
Sep 19 2011, 08:34 AM
Fair enough black & White, however I don't like this idea of clubs not following directives from NSWRL/CRL... Too much Anarchy for mine.
good call :clap: we cant have clubs like east cambelltown and city do what they like and selfishly anondon where they come from and have other clubs think this is ok :finger: :finger: west would have been a better comp with these clubs and next year when told they have to come back they will have no choice but do what nswrl and west tell them not what blue devil and his city and mac fileds buddies want :nono: :nono: group 6 can be group 6 but without cambelltown clubs :winner:
good to see minto are the true champion team of cambelltown now east got beat :winner: :winner:
This is like dealing with dumb & dumber! Eagles, Kangaroos & Mac Bulls are now affiliated with Group 6 - they are now Group 6 clubs. If their general committees decide that they no longer wish to play in Group 6 then I imagine that they will apply to Wests or another comp to play there.

Who is this divine power that is going to make them do anything!!!

This attitude that clubs have to do as they are told is what is wrong with Wests -obviously the committee forgets why they are actually there - to work on behalf of all clubs (not just the in favour ones) and certainly not to tell clubs how high they are to jump.
Of course Group 6 follow decisions of CRL in regard to policies and procedures that are for the good of the game but they shouldn't have to commit suicide if told to do so. The joint comp in 2009 & 2010 was badly organised, thrown together without any planning and two separate bodies were trying to sail one ship - when it was obvious that things weren't going to get better Group 6 clubs made the decision to go back to a Group 6 comp.

Mac Bulls, Kangaroos & Eagles applied for affiliation with Group 6 and the General Committee voted to accept those applications. Through all the spit directed at them and the roadblocks put in front of them by Wests, they've had a pretty good year.
Spot on :correct: all 3 clubs will be in Group 6 for many years to come some people just need to get use to it :cheers: all 3 will be bigger and better in 2012 as well i know City building nicely Eagles always be strong all grades and as for us some big developments in the pipeline to make us a real strong club :correct:
Edited by macbull, Sep 19 2011, 05:47 PM.
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Happy? Probably not. But its simple, evolve or step out of the way.

Liverpool used to have almost double the amount of teams in the area. Titans are obviously supplying something to Rugby League in the area that no-one else is, or else they wouldn't have gotten the sides they did.

Yes Titans have the club colours and logo - but surely the other clubs are stronger than that? They have the history, the base and the tie to the community that takes years to build.

It might not look like it, but it's not dissimilar to the negativity your Club/City/Easts faced from Wests. I honestly believe that if half of the negativity that Wests clubs throw towards each other was directed into their clubs, we would not have 90% of the issues we face.

Instead of pointing fingers and saying "that's not fair", clubs should dig deep and give the Rugby League community and their club members something positive for a change. Which is exactly what your Bulls did when applying for Group 6. Its also what Minto did when they brought in the playing group they did this year, and what All Saints have done when assembling their Senior coaching staff.
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Sep 19 2011, 04:13 PM
You say they'll kill off the other clubs - but surely its up to them to step up their game?

LCC has been around forever now, and there used to be a hell of a lot more clubs in the area. Not to mention Valley and Ashcroft's grounds are what, 400m apart? How about Easts and Warriors? And ESA and City? Titans managed to pull in 7 junior sides this year - without any transfers from the Wests District, which means the players are out there.

Clubs should always be trying to grow, to improve, and if they don't, they die. Resting on your laurels is no way to run a football club.

Every club should try to become the next "Cabra" - because they are a success! If Easts didn't push to improve, they never play Bundy Cup. If All Saints didn't push to improve, Durrant Oval would have been the end of them. It's ignorant to think you shouldn't have to compete.
LCC have been around forever but the Actual Catholic club never wanted to be involved in A Grade footy. Thats why when kids turned 18 at LCC in the past it was good bye find some where else. Now that they have had a successful first year in A reserve the main club "may" get behind them and if they do they could become the biggest football club in all of Wests and other areas, They would have the capitol to bring on a Bundy team and become the next Cabramatta. And they own their own field so council cant call off their games,
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