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2012 season; 2012 silly season
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Nov 24 2011, 06:39 AM
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Black and white mate you sound and write like your involved in the juniors??? Very concerned about juniors arnt you and always question clubs on it ??? What possi to you hold on the junior board I don't hold any position on the committee - just have had kids playing in the juniors. I know people who know people who know people.
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Nov 24 2011, 07:14 AM
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Let's hear it for Group 6 Junior's Newest Club! Oran Park Town With the likes of Scott Borg & Jake Brightwell working on development this will be a strong club in the future. They may not have any teams in the comp in 2012 but watch them grow when that development fills up.
I confess to being a little confused about this one. I was under the impression that Macarthur Bulls were started with the intention of being based in Oran Park Town in the long term. Did I miss something here? Can MacBull or anyone else in the know set me straight here please?
We to where confused Foal and the juniors i guess had other ideas then the seniors, We had extensive talks with Group 6 and council and where in the phase of applying for set up in Oran Park Town but looks like the juniors had the same intension incorporating a new club and although no club has been allocated playing fields in Oran Park Town i guess calling the junior club by the town will help their cause.
Did you have discussions with Group 6 Juniors about wanting to establish a junior club?
Discussions where for senior club only with Group 6 seniors who i assume made the juniors aware - if we managed to secure Oran Park as a home base then we would have looked at juniors down the track - no big drama either way no tears shed we have other options in the pipeline
Well that's good that you have other options. The Juniors are independent from the seniors in Group 6, two separate committees as they should be. Well aware B&W how both operate As we have posted previous the club is not intent on juniors at this stage sole mission is at senior level, i know your keen to find out where our junior base may be and time will tell stay tuned
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Nov 24 2011, 08:11 AM
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Getting back to what this thread on the forum is about, does anyone know of any of the clubs gains / losses for next year?
Only sure things so far:
Oakdale - (Losses) Brenden Reeves - Kiama
Thirlmere - (Losses) Leo - Livo Titans
There has to be some signings as pre season should have started by now?
The Good Oil, anyone?? ..... what's cracking?
Word is Thirlmere have lost most of there first grade squad, with 4 hanging up the boots, couple going back down the coast and Jayden Merchent signing with Oakdale... So they'll struggle this year unless they win the lotto. Mossy has regained Willy Mcdonald as cap/coach, with the club still talking to a few major signings, but have lost a couple due to other comitments Mittagong has also signed ex mossy and cronulla prem league player mark delemont Picton will be without there back row this coming year, with peters, white and shepperd all over in england enjoying the cold.
Yeah Brendon Reeves is a confirmed loss, but are you sure he is at Kiama? When did Jayden sign with Oakdale...... good rumour Bit of a coup for Mittagong signing Delamont, he didn't play much this year, and was missed by Mossy.
Just one thing TC, your not the true champions, play Minto and see how you go, Eagles left Campbelltown because they were to scared to play Minto, no wonder you blokes didnt want the combined comp, bloody scared little cubs, go have your porridge in pick on poor little goldielocks
Bring it on champ. Wanna play? Get your side together and we'll play you pre-season. Your comment has no merit whatsoever. Where was Minto when the combined comp was on? Languishing in 3rd Grade. The only side from your side of town that made the semi's in the 2 years was Easts. We didn't want a combined comp because a bunch of thugs that tried to bash a referee, another bunch of thugs that went down to Bowral and started another all in, and various other thug incidents. And a governing body that allowed it all to happen. Not to mention the fact that the comp was making no money. Look at the crowd at Campbelltown Stadium for the 2010 GF, Pitiful. Drama's since you left??????????? Oh sorry, Mt Annan had a food fight at McDonalds. Money since you left? Plenty Crowd at the GF? Huge Crucify us.
What have you blokes done for the game? you have no juniors so no development at all, you should be made to have at least 4 junior teams to form a senior team, but you blokes think you put the air in the football, When your club produces up and coming NRL stars like Minto, Ill have some respect for you blokes, but at the moment you get none, all you do is rip the heart and sole out of Wests Clubs stealing players you cant produce your self. you should be called the YOGI Bears, dumbest bear ive ever seen and he was just like you blokes, he stole picnick baskets, you steal players
It's all about demographics you clown. (and if you want to know what demographics means, i'll explain it for you) When you have a population of 1300 (Oakdale), compared to 11,000 (Minto) your bound to have less people come through. Oakdale have produced a Kangaroo, and i won't mention another one, but i'm pretty sure a recent kangaroo debutant actually came from Oakdale. Oakdale, has a very small population, not large enough to support juniors, but this does not mean we don't produce juniors. Because of this small population, most of our juniors end up at The Oaks, or Picton (some of which we don't get back) There were several locals in our GF side. I'm not a local, but in the 12 years i've played Group 6 football, i've only ever played for Oakdale. We don't steal players, there are other clubs guilty of that, we attract players. We have provided arguably the best Rugby League club for footballers. We have never not paid our players at the end of the season. Lets go through our Campbelltown players Matt McCauley - He came to Oakdale from Narellan and been at Oakdale since 2006 Ron Jones - Played at Oakdale for a couple of seasons (What have you ever done to get him back to Minto?) Bart Masters - Been at Oakdale since 2008 Gavin Philps - He came to Oakdale from Camden in 2010. 4 players from Campbelltown, you idiot, and not once did we actually get them directly from a Campbelltown club. We might be the Yogi Bears, but with all the friends your making on here, you might become the Bandaged Bear. Interesting that population and demographics were mentioned here. Would the Wollondilly shire be the most saturated league area compared to population in NSW, maybe even Australia? They have 4 division 1 clubs with a probability of this becoming 5 with Appin in 2012, and in division 2 there is Warragamba, Bulls @ Wilton (look out Picton and Appin) and the talk of Bargo being a new club. 8 senior clubs in total, that is good going. Other winter sports in the area are almost non existent with AFL having 1 club, union having 1 club and soccer having 3 clubs playing at a senior level. This is Wollondilly shire only, it is very different in the Camden LGA. The only areas I can think of that may have similar numbers of senior clubs would be Central Coast or Necastle but much bigger populations. Just something I was thinking about at work early this morning. Any thoughts from anyone??
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Nov 24 2011, 10:18 AM
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Black and white mate you sound and write like your involved in the juniors??? Very concerned about juniors arnt you and always question clubs on it ??? What possi to you hold on the junior board Isn't Black and White BD as well?
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Nov 24 2011, 10:31 AM
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Black and white mate you sound and write like your involved in the juniors??? Very concerned about juniors arnt you and always question clubs on it ??? What possi to you hold on the junior board
Isn't Black and White BD as well? Damn! You've uncovered my secret identity!
I thought my mild mannered appearance and Clarke Kent glasses were a good disguise.
Have you been talking to Bobcat?Beefa/Dunn???
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Nov 24 2011, 03:51 PM
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Getting back to what this thread on the forum is about, does anyone know of any of the clubs gains / losses for next year?
Only sure things so far:
Oakdale - (Losses) Brenden Reeves - Kiama
Thirlmere - (Losses) Leo - Livo Titans
There has to be some signings as pre season should have started by now?
The Good Oil, anyone?? ..... what's cracking?
Word is Thirlmere have lost most of there first grade squad, with 4 hanging up the boots, couple going back down the coast and Jayden Merchent signing with Oakdale... So they'll struggle this year unless they win the lotto. Mossy has regained Willy Mcdonald as cap/coach, with the club still talking to a few major signings, but have lost a couple due to other comitments Mittagong has also signed ex mossy and cronulla prem league player mark delemont Picton will be without there back row this coming year, with peters, white and shepperd all over in england enjoying the cold.
Yeah Brendon Reeves is a confirmed loss, but are you sure he is at Kiama? When did Jayden sign with Oakdale...... good rumour Bit of a coup for Mittagong signing Delamont, he didn't play much this year, and was missed by Mossy.
Just one thing TC, your not the true champions, play Minto and see how you go, Eagles left Campbelltown because they were to scared to play Minto, no wonder you blokes didnt want the combined comp, bloody scared little cubs, go have your porridge in pick on poor little goldielocks
Bring it on champ. Wanna play? Get your side together and we'll play you pre-season. Your comment has no merit whatsoever. Where was Minto when the combined comp was on? Languishing in 3rd Grade. The only side from your side of town that made the semi's in the 2 years was Easts. We didn't want a combined comp because a bunch of thugs that tried to bash a referee, another bunch of thugs that went down to Bowral and started another all in, and various other thug incidents. And a governing body that allowed it all to happen. Not to mention the fact that the comp was making no money. Look at the crowd at Campbelltown Stadium for the 2010 GF, Pitiful. Drama's since you left??????????? Oh sorry, Mt Annan had a food fight at McDonalds. Money since you left? Plenty Crowd at the GF? Huge Crucify us.
What have you blokes done for the game? you have no juniors so no development at all, you should be made to have at least 4 junior teams to form a senior team, but you blokes think you put the air in the football, When your club produces up and coming NRL stars like Minto, Ill have some respect for you blokes, but at the moment you get none, all you do is rip the heart and sole out of Wests Clubs stealing players you cant produce your self. you should be called the YOGI Bears, dumbest bear ive ever seen and he was just like you blokes, he stole picnick baskets, you steal players
It's all about demographics you clown. (and if you want to know what demographics means, i'll explain it for you) When you have a population of 1300 (Oakdale), compared to 11,000 (Minto) your bound to have less people come through. Oakdale have produced a Kangaroo, and i won't mention another one, but i'm pretty sure a recent kangaroo debutant actually came from Oakdale. Oakdale, has a very small population, not large enough to support juniors, but this does not mean we don't produce juniors. Because of this small population, most of our juniors end up at The Oaks, or Picton (some of which we don't get back) There were several locals in our GF side. I'm not a local, but in the 12 years i've played Group 6 football, i've only ever played for Oakdale. We don't steal players, there are other clubs guilty of that, we attract players. We have provided arguably the best Rugby League club for footballers. We have never not paid our players at the end of the season. Lets go through our Campbelltown players Matt McCauley - He came to Oakdale from Narellan and been at Oakdale since 2006 Ron Jones - Played at Oakdale for a couple of seasons (What have you ever done to get him back to Minto?) Bart Masters - Been at Oakdale since 2008 Gavin Philps - He came to Oakdale from Camden in 2010. 4 players from Campbelltown, you idiot, and not once did we actually get them directly from a Campbelltown club. We might be the Yogi Bears, but with all the friends your making on here, you might become the Bandaged Bear.
I'm a bit late jumping on the bandwagon here, but I could not resist throwing my 2 bobs worth in. Pigshead, you've got no idea at all. I'll go one further than TC. I would put my money on any one of group 6's first grade teams to beat you without breaking a sweat. Throw the Eagles reserve grade in there too, they'd give you a genuine touch up. And TC, I assume you're talking about Beau Scott being from Oakdale. Mate, he's as Picton as the mushroom tunnel!! In all seriousness I think he did grow up out that way, but he's most definitely from the Picton club. But given the fact you have no juniors, you can claim a piece of him mate. And (correct me if I'm wrong here TC), but just for Pigshead's benefit, a look back at the history of the Oakdale club may explain a little about why the Workers have seniors only. Back in the day, when the town of Oakdale was rich with Coal mines, there were lots of fit, young, men who liked to play rugby league in town, so there were plenty of troops, and interest for a senior club. However, even back then there was not a great enough population to sustain a junior club. Now, thanks to a bunch of hard working and passionate people still in that town, even without that ready made playing roster the Workers still do pretty well. So, TC is absolutely right. There is not nearly a big enough population in the Oaks and Oakdale to sustain 2 junior clubs. And Pigshead is a clown. And you know what? Some very very good players from the Campbelltown area have been coming over to play in group 6 for a long time, of their own free will. Since long before the ridiculous joint venture, Wests juniors best talent has headed over the hill to play in the CRL to get a taste of some good quality football. If I made a list of all of them that came to Picton directly from Wests in the last 15 years, you could pick an awesome team out of it. And you know the best part?? We didn't chase one of them. They just turned up because they wanted to enjoy their footy again. Spot on Foal. I wasn't trying to claim Beau, Picton developed him, he's yours.
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Let's hear it for Group 6 Junior's Newest Club! Oran Park Town With the likes of Scott Borg & Jake Brightwell working on development this will be a strong club in the future. They may not have any teams in the comp in 2012 but watch them grow when that development fills up.
I confess to being a little confused about this one. I was under the impression that Macarthur Bulls were started with the intention of being based in Oran Park Town in the long term. Did I miss something here? Can MacBull or anyone else in the know set me straight here please?
We to where confused Foal and the juniors i guess had other ideas then the seniors, We had extensive talks with Group 6 and council and where in the phase of applying for set up in Oran Park Town but looks like the juniors had the same intension incorporating a new club and although no club has been allocated playing fields in Oran Park Town i guess calling the junior club by the town will help their cause.
Did you have discussions with Group 6 Juniors about wanting to establish a junior club?
Discussions where for senior club only with Group 6 seniors who i assume made the juniors aware - if we managed to secure Oran Park as a home base then we would have looked at juniors down the track - no big drama either way no tears shed we have other options in the pipeline Be careful where you tread, you don't want to infringe on an area and upset people. I think it would be a good fit for you guys at Oran Park. You may just have to drop the "Macarthur" tag, but the Oran Park Bulls wouldn't be a bad fit would it?
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Let's hear it for Group 6 Junior's Newest Club! Oran Park Town With the likes of Scott Borg & Jake Brightwell working on development this will be a strong club in the future. They may not have any teams in the comp in 2012 but watch them grow when that development fills up.
I confess to being a little confused about this one. I was under the impression that Macarthur Bulls were started with the intention of being based in Oran Park Town in the long term. Did I miss something here? Can MacBull or anyone else in the know set me straight here please?
We to where confused Foal and the juniors i guess had other ideas then the seniors, We had extensive talks with Group 6 and council and where in the phase of applying for set up in Oran Park Town but looks like the juniors had the same intension incorporating a new club and although no club has been allocated playing fields in Oran Park Town i guess calling the junior club by the town will help their cause.
Did you have discussions with Group 6 Juniors about wanting to establish a junior club?
Discussions where for senior club only with Group 6 seniors who i assume made the juniors aware - if we managed to secure Oran Park as a home base then we would have looked at juniors down the track - no big drama either way no tears shed we have other options in the pipeline
Well that's good that you have other options. The Juniors are independent from the seniors in Group 6, two separate committees as they should be. If everything was fair the Bulls could play where they wanted to, and the squeeze for grounds would not be an issue the Camden area. But too many people want G6 to fail, but it's wont. So Let the clubs play where they want to, n still play in the G6 comp. The juniors and senior should be seperate as they concentrate on two different comps, but guess it will be the job of the new EO to coordinate bewteen the 2 committes
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Campbelltown Eagles RLFC Senior Presentation Friday the 2nd of December at Campbelltown RSL 7pm
Wil the duke of campbelltown rugby league be the mc on the night lmao No I wont be,
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Black and white mate you sound and write like your involved in the juniors??? Very concerned about juniors arnt you and always question clubs on it ??? What possi to you hold on the junior board
Isn't Black and White BD as well?
Damn! You've uncovered my secret identity!  <br /><br />I thought my mild mannered appearance and Clarke Kent glasses were a good disguise.  <br /><br />Have you been talking to Bobcat?Beefa/Dunn???
I had the red nose and red hair, not the Clark Kent glasses
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Let's hear it for Group 6 Junior's Newest Club! Oran Park Town With the likes of Scott Borg & Jake Brightwell working on development this will be a strong club in the future. They may not have any teams in the comp in 2012 but watch them grow when that development fills up.
I confess to being a little confused about this one. I was under the impression that Macarthur Bulls were started with the intention of being based in Oran Park Town in the long term. Did I miss something here? Can MacBull or anyone else in the know set me straight here please?
We to where confused Foal and the juniors i guess had other ideas then the seniors, We had extensive talks with Group 6 and council and where in the phase of applying for set up in Oran Park Town but looks like the juniors had the same intension incorporating a new club and although no club has been allocated playing fields in Oran Park Town i guess calling the junior club by the town will help their cause.
Did you have discussions with Group 6 Juniors about wanting to establish a junior club?
Discussions where for senior club only with Group 6 seniors who i assume made the juniors aware - if we managed to secure Oran Park as a home base then we would have looked at juniors down the track - no big drama either way no tears shed we have other options in the pipeline
Be careful where you tread, you don't want to infringe on an area and upset people. I think it would be a good fit for you guys at Oran Park. You may just have to drop the "Macarthur" tag, but the Oran Park Bulls wouldn't be a bad fit would it? A junior and senior club can run out of one ground it happens everywhere else. Oran Park is only a junior club atm
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Let's hear it for Group 6 Junior's Newest Club! Oran Park Town With the likes of Scott Borg & Jake Brightwell working on development this will be a strong club in the future. They may not have any teams in the comp in 2012 but watch them grow when that development fills up.
I confess to being a little confused about this one. I was under the impression that Macarthur Bulls were started with the intention of being based in Oran Park Town in the long term. Did I miss something here? Can MacBull or anyone else in the know set me straight here please?
We to where confused Foal and the juniors i guess had other ideas then the seniors, We had extensive talks with Group 6 and council and where in the phase of applying for set up in Oran Park Town but looks like the juniors had the same intension incorporating a new club and although no club has been allocated playing fields in Oran Park Town i guess calling the junior club by the town will help their cause.
Did you have discussions with Group 6 Juniors about wanting to establish a junior club?
Discussions where for senior club only with Group 6 seniors who i assume made the juniors aware - if we managed to secure Oran Park as a home base then we would have looked at juniors down the track - no big drama either way no tears shed we have other options in the pipeline
Be careful where you tread, you don't want to infringe on an area and upset people. I think it would be a good fit for you guys at Oran Park. You may just have to drop the "Macarthur" tag, but the Oran Park Bulls wouldn't be a bad fit would it?
A junior and senior club can run out of one ground it happens everywhere else. Oran Park is only a junior club atm I think the issue is that you can't just assume that because you have discussions with the seniors that they also speak for the juniors - this isn't the case. A junior club is a matter for the junior committee the seniors have no say in it.
The juniors were keen to get a foothold in the Oran Park area before it was flooded with soccer and AFL - the development officers are busy working to get kids keen to play rugby league. They have long term plans and they have been put in motion.
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Let's hear it for Group 6 Junior's Newest Club! Oran Park Town With the likes of Scott Borg & Jake Brightwell working on development this will be a strong club in the future. They may not have any teams in the comp in 2012 but watch them grow when that development fills up.
I confess to being a little confused about this one. I was under the impression that Macarthur Bulls were started with the intention of being based in Oran Park Town in the long term. Did I miss something here? Can MacBull or anyone else in the know set me straight here please?
We to where confused Foal and the juniors i guess had other ideas then the seniors, We had extensive talks with Group 6 and council and where in the phase of applying for set up in Oran Park Town but looks like the juniors had the same intension incorporating a new club and although no club has been allocated playing fields in Oran Park Town i guess calling the junior club by the town will help their cause.
Did you have discussions with Group 6 Juniors about wanting to establish a junior club?
Discussions where for senior club only with Group 6 seniors who i assume made the juniors aware - if we managed to secure Oran Park as a home base then we would have looked at juniors down the track - no big drama either way no tears shed we have other options in the pipeline
Be careful where you tread, you don't want to infringe on an area and upset people. I think it would be a good fit for you guys at Oran Park. You may just have to drop the "Macarthur" tag, but the Oran Park Bulls wouldn't be a bad fit would it?
A junior and senior club can run out of one ground it happens everywhere else. Oran Park is only a junior club atm
I think the issue is that you can't just assume that because you have discussions with the seniors that they also speak for the juniors - this isn't the case. A junior club is a matter for the junior committee the seniors have no say in it. The juniors were keen to get a foothold in the Oran Park area before it was flooded with soccer and AFL - the development officers are busy working to get kids keen to play rugby league. They have long term plans and they have been put in motion. So a senior club your saying can't base at Oran park cause a junior club is???? I think bulls could base thier senior club there as well and all be happy Is Oran park jrlfc putting in seniors and if not the bulls would be a perfect fit as their senior club maybe
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Can't see how the juniors can brand an area then say no senior clubs allowed if the area can house a new junior club then it can a senior as well I reckon
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Nov 24 2011, 08:13 PM
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Can't see how the juniors can brand an area then say no senior clubs allowed if the area can house a new junior club then it can a senior as well I reckon I obviously don't know how things a done in Wests but as I keep saying Juniors & Seniors are separate in Group 6. It would have been simply good manners for starters to discuss the issue with the Junior Committee. In G6 juniors there are residential boundaries - this was set up many years ago to protect the competition and stop the growth of super clubs which would have a detrimental affect on the competition.
There is no problems with 2 clubs using the same ground in seniors if it is logistically possible. In juniors this would be impossible because of the residential boundaries. Two clubs can't draw from the one boundary area.
The other issue is that a new club can't just come in and say we are going to set up here and we are going to have a junior club. If it is in Group 6 juniors then that area is already residentially bound to another junior club.
Maybe Mac Bulls could negotiate to be the senior club for Oran Park Town JRLFC in the future - that would be up to them. No one is saying a senior club can't set up there all I'm saying is that they can't establish a junior club down the track, as that area will already have a junior club - Oran Park Town JRLFC.
(Why they had to name the area Oran Park Town is beyond me - why didn't they just call it Oran Park - the "Town" sounds ridiculous)
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Nov 24 2011, 08:36 PM
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Can't see how the juniors can brand an area then say no senior clubs allowed if the area can house a new junior club then it can a senior as well I reckon
I obviously don't know how things a done in Wests but as I keep saying Juniors & Seniors are separate in Group 6. It would have been simply good manners for starters to discuss the issue with the Junior Committee. In G6 juniors there are residential boundaries - this was set up many years ago to protect the competition and stop the growth of super clubs which would have a detrimental affect on the competition. There is no problems with 2 clubs using the same ground in seniors if it is logistically possible. In juniors this would be impossible because of the residential boundaries. Two clubs can't draw from the one boundary area. The other issue is that a new club can't just come in and say we are going to set up here and we are going to have a junior club. If it is in Group 6 juniors then that area is already residentially bound to another junior club. Maybe Mac Bulls could negotiate to be the senior club for Oran Park Town JRLFC in the future - that would be up to them. No one is saying a senior club can't set up there all I'm saying is that they can't establish a junior club down the track, as that area will already have a junior club - Oran Park Town JRLFC. (Why they had to name the area Oran Park Town is beyond me - why didn't they just call it Oran Park - the "Town" sounds ridiculous) You seem uPset that Mac bulls looked at Oran park and I don't think they have said they would set uP juniors at Oran park they have put the are all about seniors you knocked then for Wilton now Oran park give them a go BW they seem to want to just succeed at senior level and you keep on about there juniors which they have said many times is not on there radar I say good luck to them I hope theyget into Oran park down the track for there senior club
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Nov 24 2011, 08:41 PM
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Can't see how the juniors can brand an area then say no senior clubs allowed if the area can house a new junior club then it can a senior as well I reckon
I obviously don't know how things a done in Wests but as I keep saying Juniors & Seniors are separate in Group 6. It would have been simply good manners for starters to discuss the issue with the Junior Committee. In G6 juniors there are residential boundaries - this was set up many years ago to protect the competition and stop the growth of super clubs which would have a detrimental affect on the competition. There is no problems with 2 clubs using the same ground in seniors if it is logistically possible. In juniors this would be impossible because of the residential boundaries. Two clubs can't draw from the one boundary area. The other issue is that a new club can't just come in and say we are going to set up here and we are going to have a junior club. If it is in Group 6 juniors then that area is already residentially bound to another junior club. Maybe Mac Bulls could negotiate to be the senior club for Oran Park Town JRLFC in the future - that would be up to them. No one is saying a senior club can't set up there all I'm saying is that they can't establish a junior club down the track, as that area will already have a junior club - Oran Park Town JRLFC. (Why they had to name the area Oran Park Town is beyond me - why didn't they just call it Oran Park - the "Town" sounds ridiculous)
You seem uPset that Mac bulls looked at Oran park and I don't think they have said they would set uP juniors at Oran park they have put the are all about seniors you knocked then for Wilton now Oran park give them a go BW they seem to want to just succeed at senior level and you keep on about there juniors which they have said many times is not on there radar I say good luck to them I hope theyget into Oran park down the track for there senior club I'm not the slightest bit upset about Mac Bulls setting up anywhere within Group 6. They are the ones that said they would be looking at having juniors in the future. I'm simply saying that its not a matter of them deciding to have juniors down the track because of the juniors residential boundary rules.
It's not a hard concept really.
My point was that a club can't establish a JUNIOR club within another junior club's area - with the emphasis on the word Junior.
What senior clubs do is between them and senior management.
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Nov 24 2011, 08:48 PM
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Can't see how the juniors can brand an area then say no senior clubs allowed if the area can house a new junior club then it can a senior as well I reckon The Juniors do want to brand the Oran Park area - the brand being Rugby League - not AFL, not soccer!
Isn't that what we all want, to strengthen Rugby League in this area?
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Nov 25 2011, 05:15 AM
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Can't see how the juniors can brand an area then say no senior clubs allowed if the area can house a new junior club then it can a senior as well I reckon
I obviously don't know how things a done in Wests but as I keep saying Juniors & Seniors are separate in Group 6. It would have been simply good manners for starters to discuss the issue with the Junior Committee. In G6 juniors there are residential boundaries - this was set up many years ago to protect the competition and stop the growth of super clubs which would have a detrimental affect on the competition. There is no problems with 2 clubs using the same ground in seniors if it is logistically possible. In juniors this would be impossible because of the residential boundaries. Two clubs can't draw from the one boundary area. The other issue is that a new club can't just come in and say we are going to set up here and we are going to have a junior club. If it is in Group 6 juniors then that area is already residentially bound to another junior club. Maybe Mac Bulls could negotiate to be the senior club for Oran Park Town JRLFC in the future - that would be up to them. No one is saying a senior club can't set up there all I'm saying is that they can't establish a junior club down the track, as that area will already have a junior club - Oran Park Town JRLFC. (Why they had to name the area Oran Park Town is beyond me - why didn't they just call it Oran Park - the "Town" sounds ridiculous)
You seem uPset that Mac bulls looked at Oran park and I don't think they have said they would set uP juniors at Oran park they have put the are all about seniors you knocked then for Wilton now Oran park give them a go BW they seem to want to just succeed at senior level and you keep on about there juniors which they have said many times is not on there radar I say good luck to them I hope theyget into Oran park down the track for there senior club
I'm not the slightest bit upset about Mac Bulls setting up anywhere within Group 6. They are the ones that said they would be looking at having juniors in the future. I'm simply saying that its not a matter of them deciding to have juniors down the track because of the juniors residential boundary rules. It's not a hard concept really. My point was that a club can't establish a JUNIOR club within another junior club's area - with the emphasis on the word Junior. What senior clubs do is between them and senior management. We get mate you made your point and the club has no intention on invading on any junior or SENIOR club for that matter, You over bashing it slightly and its getting boring having to come on and keep reiterating that we are only focused on seniors and when the time comes we will look at juniors(The club knows how it all works if that helps), As ive stated we are more then happy to run a sole senior club and will be the last comment i make on the matter, Thanks for your opionions either way and looking for 2012 our club is hell bent on succeeding as a SENIOR club and our guys are eger to ensure that starts in 2012
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Nov 25 2011, 06:13 AM
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- Nov 25 2011, 05:15 AM
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- westie
- Nov 24 2011, 08:36 PM
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- Nov 24 2011, 08:13 PM
- westie
- Nov 24 2011, 06:29 PM
Can't see how the juniors can brand an area then say no senior clubs allowed if the area can house a new junior club then it can a senior as well I reckon
I obviously don't know how things a done in Wests but as I keep saying Juniors & Seniors are separate in Group 6. It would have been simply good manners for starters to discuss the issue with the Junior Committee. In G6 juniors there are residential boundaries - this was set up many years ago to protect the competition and stop the growth of super clubs which would have a detrimental affect on the competition. There is no problems with 2 clubs using the same ground in seniors if it is logistically possible. In juniors this would be impossible because of the residential boundaries. Two clubs can't draw from the one boundary area. The other issue is that a new club can't just come in and say we are going to set up here and we are going to have a junior club. If it is in Group 6 juniors then that area is already residentially bound to another junior club. Maybe Mac Bulls could negotiate to be the senior club for Oran Park Town JRLFC in the future - that would be up to them. No one is saying a senior club can't set up there all I'm saying is that they can't establish a junior club down the track, as that area will already have a junior club - Oran Park Town JRLFC. (Why they had to name the area Oran Park Town is beyond me - why didn't they just call it Oran Park - the "Town" sounds ridiculous)
You seem uPset that Mac bulls looked at Oran park and I don't think they have said they would set uP juniors at Oran park they have put the are all about seniors you knocked then for Wilton now Oran park give them a go BW they seem to want to just succeed at senior level and you keep on about there juniors which they have said many times is not on there radar I say good luck to them I hope theyget into Oran park down the track for there senior club
I'm not the slightest bit upset about Mac Bulls setting up anywhere within Group 6. They are the ones that said they would be looking at having juniors in the future. I'm simply saying that its not a matter of them deciding to have juniors down the track because of the juniors residential boundary rules. It's not a hard concept really. My point was that a club can't establish a JUNIOR club within another junior club's area - with the emphasis on the word Junior. What senior clubs do is between them and senior management.
We get mate you made your point and the club has no intention on invading on any junior or SENIOR club for that matter, You over bashing it slightly and its getting boring having to come on and keep reiterating that we are only focused on seniors and when the time comes we will look at juniors(The club knows how it all works if that helps), As ive stated we are more then happy to run a sole senior club and will be the last comment i make on the matter, Thanks for your opionions either way and looking for 2012  our club is hell bent on succeeding as a SENIOR club and our guys are eger to ensure that starts in 2012 Not trying to "over bash" the issue - simply replying to comments made (it is ok if I do that isn't it?)
Comments were made about the juniors "branding" an area and stopping a senior club setting up - there is no harm in trying to clear up misconceptions.
I'll say no more on the matter as well.
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