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City progress report- all 4 grades training strongly, big numbers at training. Drew Dalton back as head coach, Gary Syron as reserves coach.
Andrew McEwen, our new U/18s coach comes highly credentialed having coached in the Wests JL and Parramatta JL. Vai Toutai and Sefa Ualesi- currently training with the top squad at Parramatta- are two of his former proteges from Fairfield United.
We're going to be very young and fast, just trying to recruit a bit of experience in the forwards at the moment.
Ex- Balmain Tigers and Bradford Bulls great Mike Withers will once again play in the centres.
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Jan 24 2012, 08:31 PM
:yeah:
heard today that Picton in trouble with retaining players in 1st grade
Was told that some players weren't paid from last season.
Also heard that a couple of players gone to camden and some to oakdale.
Was told that they have a meeting tomorrow night to sort some issues.
b&w any truth here, i was told by a picton old boy member!.
Sorry, just a supporter, not part of the Picton powers that be. Maybe someone else on the forum could answer that.
No Picton players at Oakdale.
Bryce Poisel is from Thirlmere right?
Spoke to someone from Picton's committee tonight - they don't know anything about "a meeting tomorrow night to sort some issues".

Sorry can't help you there, though foal is in a better position to answer your questions.
I heard about the payments issue last year.
But no players have come to Oakdale, so safe to assume the rest is just whispers.
Dad said Picton is fine shape, like most Group 6 clubs times get tough and a player or two has to wait a little longer to get his coin, but they have always had a good record at paying players, Dad said that there is 3 players trying to shop around as a package offering the 3 as a good deal, Poisel, Taylor and one from Oakdale Fryer, all 3 want to play together! Dad said what ever happened to a bit of loyalty, but who is Dad to talk, his played for more clubs than the amount of times Ive had sex, Just done a long shift at McDonalds tonight, wish I could find a real job.
Foal is hardly about to discuss the club's financial status or player retention on a public forum with people he doesn't know.
However, Foal can confirm there certainly has not been any meeting to sort "issues".

As for players going to Camden or Oakdale. Yeah there are rumours, and some may be based on fact, but I doubt there have been any more discussions between players and other clubs as there are any other year. Tis the season to shop yourself around, after all.

"Dad said what ever happened to a bit of loyalty, but who is Dad to talk, his played for more clubs than the amount of times Ive had sex"
Fencey, you really going to leave yourself open like that??!! I'll pass on making any comment!! :laughing:
picton rip players off all the time when i played there we got knocked out in the semis come preso night ````ahh unfortunately after ur rego and all the $50 deduction dinners through the year!!!mind u do-do house feed!!!theres no money for u this year but come back next year we can sought somthing out....phht yeah right buddy
Your statements are pretty slanderous.
Are you prepared to back that up with facts?
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Jan 24 2012, 10:44 PM
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Has brendon reeves signed with thirlmere heard just now of a mate
Took a whole for it to come out.
FACT: In true Reeves form he asked for a set amount and said call me back if you can offer it, no interview.
Thirlmere must have came up with it?
FACT: He went on a recruitment drive of Oakdale players. None interested.
He won't coach unless he is sure he can win. He did a lot of scouting at Oakdale before he took over.
Everyone on here knows dad knows a lot of people that know a lot of things, he has some breaking news and you heard it first from "Maccas Fries of the year" Fency, Brendan Reeves didn't work out with Thirlmere and you were on the money TC, they signed a replacement in one Daine Wooden from Narellan on Friday, Narellan struggling to obtain any classy players has seen Woodo on the move to Thirlmere for 2012, other breaking news is the Oaks big signing Damien Moyston has left the club to play another year in Bundy Cup at St Johns, he was seen talking to his first junior club East Campbelltown and apparently agreeing to sign with them in 2013, to finish his career.
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:yeah:
heard today that Picton in trouble with retaining players in 1st grade
Was told that some players weren't paid from last season.
Also heard that a couple of players gone to camden and some to oakdale.
Was told that they have a meeting tomorrow night to sort some issues.
b&w any truth here, i was told by a picton old boy member!.
Sorry, just a supporter, not part of the Picton powers that be. Maybe someone else on the forum could answer that.
No Picton players at Oakdale.
Bryce Poisel is from Thirlmere right?
Spoke to someone from Picton's committee tonight - they don't know anything about "a meeting tomorrow night to sort some issues".

Sorry can't help you there, though foal is in a better position to answer your questions.
I heard about the payments issue last year.
But no players have come to Oakdale, so safe to assume the rest is just whispers.
Dad said Picton is fine shape, like most Group 6 clubs times get tough and a player or two has to wait a little longer to get his coin, but they have always had a good record at paying players, Dad said that there is 3 players trying to shop around as a package offering the 3 as a good deal, Poisel, Taylor and one from Oakdale Fryer, all 3 want to play together! Dad said what ever happened to a bit of loyalty, but who is Dad to talk, his played for more clubs than the amount of times Ive had sex, Just done a long shift at McDonalds tonight, wish I could find a real job.
Foal is hardly about to discuss the club's financial status or player retention on a public forum with people he doesn't know.
However, Foal can confirm there certainly has not been any meeting to sort "issues".

As for players going to Camden or Oakdale. Yeah there are rumours, and some may be based on fact, but I doubt there have been any more discussions between players and other clubs as there are any other year. Tis the season to shop yourself around, after all.

"Dad said what ever happened to a bit of loyalty, but who is Dad to talk, his played for more clubs than the amount of times Ive had sex"
Fencey, you really going to leave yourself open like that??!! I'll pass on making any comment!! :laughing:
picton rip players off all the time when i played there we got knocked out in the semis come preso night ````ahh unfortunately after ur rego and all the $50 deduction dinners through the year!!!mind u do-do house feed!!!theres no money for u this year but come back next year we can sought somthing out....phht yeah right buddy
Great call champ. So who are all these players that Picton "rip off all the time"? Or is it just that you played with us one year and weren't happy with the deductions (which you agreed to when you signed) at seasons end?
What year was it by the way? I'm pretty sure I've worked you out anyway, in my time very few players have had only one year with us, and even fewer have ended up at Camden afterwards.
So (correct me if I'm wrong), I'm thinking it was 2004, you came mid season and played reserve grade. Let's do the math: you maybe played in 12 winning reggies games (being generous here), so 12 x $40 (I think that was the rate at the time) = $480.

Now deductions: rego, insurance, shorts & socks etc = approx $280 (conservative estimate). Functions/presentation, probably 3 x $50 = $150.
State of origin doubles, 3 x $25 = $75.
Total deductions = $505.
480 - 505 = $-25.

Now, I can tell you as someone that played more reserve grade than 1sts, the most I ever came out in front from a full, very successful season was about $150. What did you expect?

I'm sure the club didn't give you a bill and ask you to pay it (although they're entitled to), they would've said something along the lines of "you're in the red, but don't worry about it, next year with a full season and some 1st grade payments thrown in you'll come out way in front".
Obviously you weren't "ripped off" or I'm sure you would not have accepted it. The fact that you did and never came back shows you just wanted more cash, even though you weren't entitled to it.
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Nice work Foal.
Some players dont actually realise what it costs to get a player on the park each year.
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Nice work Foal.
Some players dont actually realise what it costs to get a player on the park each year.
I can't see why players shouldn't be asked to cough up payment for rego & insurance each year?

It would at least sort out the wheat from the chaff - if they had to make a financial commitment up front the fly-by-nighters won't be wasting a club's time or money. If clubs are in a position to hand that money back to them later in recognition of their commitment, it's up to them.

If there are players with financial problems but the club believes are serious about playing then they can come to some arrangement.
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Nice work Foal.
Some players dont actually realise what it costs to get a player on the park each year.
I can't see why players shouldn't be asked to cough up payment for rego & insurance each year?

It would at least sort out the wheat from the chaff - if they had to make a financial commitment up front the fly-by-nighters won't be wasting a club's time or money. If clubs are in a position to hand that money back to them later in recognition of their commitment, it's up to them.

If there are players with financial problems but the club believes are serious about playing then they can come to some arrangement.
I thought all group6 clubs were in agreeance that all players must pay a $250 membership fee to stop the fly by nighters and if clubs wanted to pay it for them they could reinburse later in season not offer free rego to attract players away from other clubs...
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Nice work Foal.
Some players dont actually realise what it costs to get a player on the park each year.
I can't see why players shouldn't be asked to cough up payment for rego & insurance each year?

It would at least sort out the wheat from the chaff - if they had to make a financial commitment up front the fly-by-nighters won't be wasting a club's time or money. If clubs are in a position to hand that money back to them later in recognition of their commitment, it's up to them.

If there are players with financial problems but the club believes are serious about playing then they can come to some arrangement.
I thought all group6 clubs were in agreeance that all players must pay a $250 membership fee to stop the fly by nighters and if clubs wanted to pay it for them they could reinburse later in season not offer free rego to attract players away from other clubs...
Well that's a good move - pleased to hear it.
To many players sign up play for a few weeks, then disappear - clubs fork out for insurance, rego and gear and it's money down the drain.
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Nice work Foal.
Some players dont actually realise what it costs to get a player on the park each year.
I can't see why players shouldn't be asked to cough up payment for rego & insurance each year?

It would at least sort out the wheat from the chaff - if they had to make a financial commitment up front the fly-by-nighters won't be wasting a club's time or money. If clubs are in a position to hand that money back to them later in recognition of their commitment, it's up to them.

If there are players with financial problems but the club believes are serious about playing then they can come to some arrangement.
I thought all group6 clubs were in agreeance that all players must pay a $250 membership fee to stop the fly by nighters and if clubs wanted to pay it for them they could reinburse later in season not offer free rego to attract players away from other clubs...
They tried to pass a new By-Law, but i don't think it got through.
Some clubs were worried that it would turn people away from playing.
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Copied post that I repiled to from the Wests Seniro thread:
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Jan 30 2012, 05:44 PM
Couple of the Titan boys heading to narellan the coach been asking them over some old all saints boys from 2009 18s wanna play with some of our boys thinking bout haven a look to
Is narellan a good club anyone now do they pay your rego

* Narellan is a good club with some good people, they have been rebuilding for a few years now using predomintly local juniors as they haven't had as much money as other clubs to throw around. I seriously doubt they would pay your rego as most clubs won't unless you a player they have been looking for or can bring "quality" players as mentioned many times on this forum plenty of players disappear if they lose interest or don't like that they aren't in 1st grade immediately leaving the club out of pocket.

Most clubs in Group 6 try their best to look after their players and most are good to play from from most reports, but if you are looking to go to Narellan or any other club you can't go far wrong, as long as your willing to pay rego you will be playing in a quality competition week in and week out.
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Nice work Foal.
Some players dont actually realise what it costs to get a player on the park each year.
I can't see why players shouldn't be asked to cough up payment for rego & insurance each year?

It would at least sort out the wheat from the chaff - if they had to make a financial commitment up front the fly-by-nighters won't be wasting a club's time or money. If clubs are in a position to hand that money back to them later in recognition of their commitment, it's up to them.

If there are players with financial problems but the club believes are serious about playing then they can come to some arrangement.
I thought all group6 clubs were in agreeance that all players must pay a $250 membership fee to stop the fly by nighters and if clubs wanted to pay it for them they could reinburse later in season not offer free rego to attract players away from other clubs...
They tried to pass a new By-Law, but i don't think it got through.
Some clubs were worried that it would turn people away from playing.
Our club has always paid for rego up front, but I do agree that it's time for that to change. We have just been losing money hand over fist in the last few years. It's just not sustainable.
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Jan 30 2012, 12:28 PM
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Jan 30 2012, 11:15 AM
Nice work Foal.
Some players dont actually realise what it costs to get a player on the park each year.
I can't see why players shouldn't be asked to cough up payment for rego & insurance each year?

It would at least sort out the wheat from the chaff - if they had to make a financial commitment up front the fly-by-nighters won't be wasting a club's time or money. If clubs are in a position to hand that money back to them later in recognition of their commitment, it's up to them.

If there are players with financial problems but the club believes are serious about playing then they can come to some arrangement.
I thought all group6 clubs were in agreeance that all players must pay a $250 membership fee to stop the fly by nighters and if clubs wanted to pay it for them they could reinburse later in season not offer free rego to attract players away from other clubs...
They tried to pass a new By-Law, but i don't think it got through.
Some clubs were worried that it would turn people away from playing.
Our club has always paid for rego up front, but I do agree that it's time for that to change. We have just been losing money hand over fist in the last few years. It's just not sustainable.
Club needs to cover themselves by putting in a defaulters list with group 6 & CRL by years end, these players will eventually transfer to other clubs so once a clearance goes thru you can block it as you've listed a player as a defaulter. As first grade predominantly gets paid its usually reggies players that are the main culprits, also says a lot about a players attitude, if they pay up front regos then it shows their pretty keen .
Edited by disco stu, Jan 31 2012, 12:28 PM.
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From the Group 6 Senior's web site

Group 6 Senior's Web Site

Group 6 U/18's Training Squad

All players selected in the U/18's training squad are expected to attend training on Wednesday, 1st February, 2012.

Venue: Narellan Sports Ground

Time: 6.00pm sharp

From this squad the a team will be named to play in the selection trial against the Illawarra training squad.

This game will be held on Sunday, 26th February.

Venue: Victoria Park, Menangle St, Picton

Time: 10.00am

Selectors will name a Redbacks training squad, made up of both Group 6 & Illawarra players.

The Redbacks will take on the Western Rams on Saturday, 24th March.

Venue: Victoria Park, Menangle St, Picton

Time: 12.30pm

anyone know the who is in the squad??
Squad List

Appin
Jay DAVIS
Andrew MCGUIGGAN

Camden
Jake DOONER
Kyal GREENE
Matthew KAY
Dylan NOBLE
Benjamin STEVENS
Issac WOJEWODKA

City
Mitchell VAMVAS
Corey WALPOLE

Eagles
Dylan BOYD

Mittagong
Ricky GARARD
Nicholas HOWARD
Max JENKINS
Cameron LUI
Rhyce MCLAREN
Jace MENDEZ-GARDINER
Joshua PRIOR
Matthew TURLAND
Jesse ELLIOTT
Dylan EVANS
Mitchell HARRIS
Bradley LARTER
Jack MARCOCCI
Dylan RUSSELL
Mitchell TOOVEY

Mt Annan
Jack DUVAL

Narellan
Kyle ADAMS
Jarrod FORREST
Lewis HARLOW
Robert HAZELTON
Aaron Jacob HINE-WILSON
Jacob McKinnon
Jermaine HAULE

Picton
Johnny ESTEPHAN
John GREENE
Nathan SMITH
Dom ROMEO
Mark PUDNEY
Nicholas LAMBERT
Ryan TURNER
Aaron MEULEMAN
James GORING
Jake HILE
Kurt LANE
Bryce HJALTASON

Thirlmere-Tahmoor
Jack ANDERSON
Todd FLAXMAN
Ari KIRMANEN
Chad MCCARROL
Jesse SICA
Andrew STAMATIOU
John TE-RINGA
Luke WHYMARK
Jack WOOTTON
Dean MEWBURN

Warragamba
Christopher Bartolo
thnx mate..
im looking forward to training on wed.. :correct:
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Copying & Pasting this post from galahs (from Rally thread) onto this thread as it's extremely important that all G6 players, volunteers & supporters read it.

I suspect that they are going throw us at the Wests Seniors problem and give us an "independent administrator".

I know I'm sounding paranoid but we need to watch this situation very, very carefully or we are going to be totally screwed again and forced back into a joint comp.

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galahsJan 31 2012, 04:34 PM
Statement: Wests Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys

*THE future focus and activities of Wests Magpies will be determined by the Wests Magpies football club now under the chairmanship of Mick Liubinskas.

We look forward to supporting Mick and his new look Board with their future plans which will be formulated after they consider a range of views from all parties.

My own view is that the priorities should focus on celebrating the wonderful history of the Magpies on the big stage and nurturing and developing the talented young players of the area. The fact that Wests live strongly today in Wests Tigers is reinforced by both of these endeavours.

*We are currently managing the junior development and representative programs on behalf of Wests Magpies.

These will always be Wests Magpies programs and always be based in the Macarthur and Liverpool areas. There are about 300 kids who are enrolled in the various Magpies squads presently training at various locations including Minto and Ingleburn.

The programs are being co-funded by Wests Magpies and Wests Tigers and managed by Ben Rogers. Ben is an experienced development manager who lives in the area and is a former teacher at St Gregs College. Ben also played for Wests Magpies as did his father and he, along with all of the local coaches and helpers that he has recruited, is doing an outstanding job developing the great talent in the Western Suburbs and Group 6 districts.

*In terms of the issues with the local senior competition, this is the jurisdiction of the NSWRL and the CRL but, for what it’s worth, we are great advocates of the combined competition of both Western Suburbs and Group 6.

A combined competition would immediate eliminate the problems being felt by the three Campbelltown based clubs who have decided to play in the Group 6 competition.

An independent administrator would be needed to run the competition and I understand that the Western Suburbs Junior League has recommended this approach and it has the full support of the NSWRL which has even agreed to fund the administrator. I really believe that this model is in the best interests of the entire area and would encourage local decision makers to rally behind this cause.

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My response:

This is not in the best interests of Group 6, though.
We have a great comp, that is well run and provides a good level of competition, why would we let that go for an unknown product?
Why should Group 6 be the sacrifical lamb because the Wests senior comp is stuffed?
He who pays the piper calls the tune so that means an "independent administrator" won't be particularly independent.
If they think they are going to force Group 6 into another joint comp with an "independent" JL puppet they can expect an even bigger fight on their hands.
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Copying & Pasting this post from galahs (from Rally thread) onto this thread as it's extremely important that all G6 players, volunteers & supporters read it.

I suspect that they are going throw us at the Wests Seniors problem and give us an "independent administrator".

I know I'm sounding paranoid but we need to watch this situation very, very carefully or we are going to be totally screwed again and forced back into a joint comp.

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galahsJan 31 2012, 04:34 PM
Statement: Wests Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys

*THE future focus and activities of Wests Magpies will be determined by the Wests Magpies football club now under the chairmanship of Mick Liubinskas.

We look forward to supporting Mick and his new look Board with their future plans which will be formulated after they consider a range of views from all parties.

My own view is that the priorities should focus on celebrating the wonderful history of the Magpies on the big stage and nurturing and developing the talented young players of the area. The fact that Wests live strongly today in Wests Tigers is reinforced by both of these endeavours.

*We are currently managing the junior development and representative programs on behalf of Wests Magpies.

These will always be Wests Magpies programs and always be based in the Macarthur and Liverpool areas. There are about 300 kids who are enrolled in the various Magpies squads presently training at various locations including Minto and Ingleburn.

The programs are being co-funded by Wests Magpies and Wests Tigers and managed by Ben Rogers. Ben is an experienced development manager who lives in the area and is a former teacher at St Gregs College. Ben also played for Wests Magpies as did his father and he, along with all of the local coaches and helpers that he has recruited, is doing an outstanding job developing the great talent in the Western Suburbs and Group 6 districts.

*In terms of the issues with the local senior competition, this is the jurisdiction of the NSWRL and the CRL but, for what it’s worth, we are great advocates of the combined competition of both Western Suburbs and Group 6.

A combined competition would immediate eliminate the problems being felt by the three Campbelltown based clubs who have decided to play in the Group 6 competition.

An independent administrator would be needed to run the competition and I understand that the Western Suburbs Junior League has recommended this approach and it has the full support of the NSWRL which has even agreed to fund the administrator. I really believe that this model is in the best interests of the entire area and would encourage local decision makers to rally behind this cause.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
My response:

This is not in the best interests of Group 6, though.
We have a great comp, that is well run and provides a good level of competition, why would we let that go for an unknown product?
Why should Group 6 be the sacrifical lamb because the Wests senior comp is stuffed?
He who pays the piper calls the tune so that means an "independent administrator" won't be particularly independent.
If they think they are going to force Group 6 into another joint comp with an "independent" JL puppet they can expect an even bigger fight on their hands.
Further to this statement by Stephen Humphreys, Paul Lake has taken it upon himself to send the statement to every Group 6 club both junior & senior. (Now I imagine that I can name Mr Lake and discuss the email as the sender says Paul Lake - if i can't name him then galahs please remove this).

I wonder in what capacity Mr Lake sent this to Group 6 clubs as he has no involvement, official or otherwise, in our Group? I can only assume that it was an attempt to create mischief & discord, especially as he felt the need to bold the last two paragraphs that dealt with the combine comp threat. Those clubs that I have spoken with today are LOL about it.
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Copying & Pasting this post from galahs (from Rally thread) onto this thread as it's extremely important that all G6 players, volunteers & supporters read it.

I suspect that they are going throw us at the Wests Seniors problem and give us an "independent administrator".

I know I'm sounding paranoid but we need to watch this situation very, very carefully or we are going to be totally screwed again and forced back into a joint comp.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


galahsJan 31 2012, 04:34 PM
Statement: Wests Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys

*THE future focus and activities of Wests Magpies will be determined by the Wests Magpies football club now under the chairmanship of Mick Liubinskas.

We look forward to supporting Mick and his new look Board with their future plans which will be formulated after they consider a range of views from all parties.

My own view is that the priorities should focus on celebrating the wonderful history of the Magpies on the big stage and nurturing and developing the talented young players of the area. The fact that Wests live strongly today in Wests Tigers is reinforced by both of these endeavours.

*We are currently managing the junior development and representative programs on behalf of Wests Magpies.

These will always be Wests Magpies programs and always be based in the Macarthur and Liverpool areas. There are about 300 kids who are enrolled in the various Magpies squads presently training at various locations including Minto and Ingleburn.

The programs are being co-funded by Wests Magpies and Wests Tigers and managed by Ben Rogers. Ben is an experienced development manager who lives in the area and is a former teacher at St Gregs College. Ben also played for Wests Magpies as did his father and he, along with all of the local coaches and helpers that he has recruited, is doing an outstanding job developing the great talent in the Western Suburbs and Group 6 districts.

*In terms of the issues with the local senior competition, this is the jurisdiction of the NSWRL and the CRL but, for what it’s worth, we are great advocates of the combined competition of both Western Suburbs and Group 6.

A combined competition would immediate eliminate the problems being felt by the three Campbelltown based clubs who have decided to play in the Group 6 competition.

An independent administrator would be needed to run the competition and I understand that the Western Suburbs Junior League has recommended this approach and it has the full support of the NSWRL which has even agreed to fund the administrator. I really believe that this model is in the best interests of the entire area and would encourage local decision makers to rally behind this cause.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
My response:

This is not in the best interests of Group 6, though.
We have a great comp, that is well run and provides a good level of competition, why would we let that go for an unknown product?
Why should Group 6 be the sacrifical lamb because the Wests senior comp is stuffed?
He who pays the piper calls the tune so that means an "independent administrator" won't be particularly independent.
If they think they are going to force Group 6 into another joint comp with an "independent" JL puppet they can expect an even bigger fight on their hands.
Further to this statement by Stephen Humphreys, Paul Lake has taken it upon himself to send the statement to every Group 6 club both junior & senior. (Now I imagine that I can name Mr Lake and discuss the email as the sender says Paul Lake - if i can't name him then galahs please remove this).

I wonder in what capacity Mr Lake sent this to Group 6 clubs as he has no involvement, official or otherwise, in our Group? I can only assume that it was an attempt to create mischief & discord, especially as he felt the need to bold the last two paragraphs that dealt with the combine comp threat. Those clubs that I have spoken with today are LOL about it.
I got the email, i skipped over it, but noticed there was mention of a combined comp.
They just don't get it.
WE, THE GROUP 6 CLUBS SAID NO MORE COMBINED COMP. it was unanimous.
If you guys want to play in the group 6 competition, by all means, get your SH*T together and make application to be affiliated.
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Nice work Foal.
Some players dont actually realise what it costs to get a player on the park each year.
I can't see why players shouldn't be asked to cough up payment for rego & insurance each year?

It would at least sort out the wheat from the chaff - if they had to make a financial commitment up front the fly-by-nighters won't be wasting a club's time or money. If clubs are in a position to hand that money back to them later in recognition of their commitment, it's up to them.

If there are players with financial problems but the club believes are serious about playing then they can come to some arrangement.
I thought all group6 clubs were in agreeance that all players must pay a $250 membership fee to stop the fly by nighters and if clubs wanted to pay it for them they could reinburse later in season not offer free rego to attract players away from other clubs...
They tried to pass a new By-Law, but i don't think it got through.
Some clubs were worried that it would turn people away from playing.
Our club has always paid for rego up front, but I do agree that it's time for that to change. We have just been losing money hand over fist in the last few years. It's just not sustainable.
Club needs to cover themselves by putting in a defaulters list with group 6 & CRL by years end, these players will eventually transfer to other clubs so once a clearance goes thru you can block it as you've listed a player as a defaulter. As first grade predominantly gets paid its usually reggies players that are the main culprits, also says a lot about a players attitude, if they pay up front regos then it shows their pretty keen .
I totally agree shows players want to play footy...Im sure this was voted on and in favour so that each player pays a member fee of $250 and clubs could reinburse later in seaon after regos have been paid to stop clubs from loseing money..yes they can be listed as defaulters but that does not mean clubs will get money back..
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Copying & Pasting this post from galahs (from Rally thread) onto this thread as it's extremely important that all G6 players, volunteers & supporters read it.

I suspect that they are going throw us at the Wests Seniors problem and give us an "independent administrator".

I know I'm sounding paranoid but we need to watch this situation very, very carefully or we are going to be totally screwed again and forced back into a joint comp.

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galahsJan 31 2012, 04:34 PM
Statement: Wests Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys

*THE future focus and activities of Wests Magpies will be determined by the Wests Magpies football club now under the chairmanship of Mick Liubinskas.

We look forward to supporting Mick and his new look Board with their future plans which will be formulated after they consider a range of views from all parties.

My own view is that the priorities should focus on celebrating the wonderful history of the Magpies on the big stage and nurturing and developing the talented young players of the area. The fact that Wests live strongly today in Wests Tigers is reinforced by both of these endeavours.

*We are currently managing the junior development and representative programs on behalf of Wests Magpies.

These will always be Wests Magpies programs and always be based in the Macarthur and Liverpool areas. There are about 300 kids who are enrolled in the various Magpies squads presently training at various locations including Minto and Ingleburn.

The programs are being co-funded by Wests Magpies and Wests Tigers and managed by Ben Rogers. Ben is an experienced development manager who lives in the area and is a former teacher at St Gregs College. Ben also played for Wests Magpies as did his father and he, along with all of the local coaches and helpers that he has recruited, is doing an outstanding job developing the great talent in the Western Suburbs and Group 6 districts.

*In terms of the issues with the local senior competition, this is the jurisdiction of the NSWRL and the CRL but, for what it’s worth, we are great advocates of the combined competition of both Western Suburbs and Group 6.

A combined competition would immediate eliminate the problems being felt by the three Campbelltown based clubs who have decided to play in the Group 6 competition.

An independent administrator would be needed to run the competition and I understand that the Western Suburbs Junior League has recommended this approach and it has the full support of the NSWRL which has even agreed to fund the administrator. I really believe that this model is in the best interests of the entire area and would encourage local decision makers to rally behind this cause.

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My response:

This is not in the best interests of Group 6, though.
We have a great comp, that is well run and provides a good level of competition, why would we let that go for an unknown product?
Why should Group 6 be the sacrifical lamb because the Wests senior comp is stuffed?
He who pays the piper calls the tune so that means an "independent administrator" won't be particularly independent.
If they think they are going to force Group 6 into another joint comp with an "independent" JL puppet they can expect an even bigger fight on their hands.
Further to this statement by Stephen Humphreys, Paul Lake has taken it upon himself to send the statement to every Group 6 club both junior & senior. (Now I imagine that I can name Mr Lake and discuss the email as the sender says Paul Lake - if i can't name him then galahs please remove this).

I wonder in what capacity Mr Lake sent this to Group 6 clubs as he has no involvement, official or otherwise, in our Group? I can only assume that it was an attempt to create mischief & discord, especially as he felt the need to bold the last two paragraphs that dealt with the combine comp threat. Those clubs that I have spoken with today are LOL about it.
Geez this guys bringing a knife to a gunfight isn't he ? Putting a hypothetical out there, I wonder if the current wests jrl vacated their positions, fresh talent voted in if this would sway the thinking of a combined comp. I only ask this because the same people are there from the failed attempt before and nothing will change despite having a so called independent overseer from nswrl. To eliminate any trust issues surely this has to be an option if group 6 and its members where to consider the proposal of a combined comp. Secondly is a combined comp really going to eliminate the vaguely transparent play/train rule ? Surely there are other options ? I am confused though, CRL won't issue a certificate of currency to the eagles & roos for councils lease agreement policy due to boundary issues, yet insurances will be honored if a combined comp is back on ? Can someone explain ?
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BY SEAN CUNNINGHAM

http://www.wollondillyadvertiser.com.au/news/local/sport/rugby-league/workers-no-easybeats/2439090.aspx
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Title defence: Oakdale's new first grade rugby league coach John Stanley plans to retain this year's premiership. Picture: Jonathan Ng

PASSING on knowledge should be no problem for new Oakdale first grade rugby league coach John Stanley.
Stanley, a deputy principal at Bossley Park High School, takes over the reins from outgoing premiership-winning coach Brendon Reeves.

He has a decade of coaching experience that includes Harold Matthews and S.G. Ball junior representative teams from Canterbury, Parramatta and Wests Tigers.

Stanley, a former Group 6 first grade premiership-winning player with Narellan in 1996, has retained many of last year's Oakdale squad and has strengthened the team with a high-profile signing.

"There are one or two players considering retirement and a few new players to the club," Stanley said.

"The club is happy with player retention and recruitment at this point with former West Tigers, Cronulla and Canberra NRL player Stuart Flanagan being a fantastic signing for the club.

"The experience that Stuart brings will be highly valued at the club."

Possessing a strong squad, Stanley is sure the Workers can maintain their status as high achievers.

"I think consistent team performances and injuries will be key factors that will determine teams' fortunes this season," he said.

"I believe teams that can string together a good run of victories and keep their top 17 players on the paddock as much as possible, will be in line for a semi-final berth and I am confident Oakdale will be among the top teams if these two factors work for us."

"The challenge for the club, now that they have reached the top, is to stay at the top.

"This will be a constant focus through every training session and game; we have no desire to see the title leave the club and I believe we are in good shape to ensure this does not happen."

Stanley realises the task of defending the title will include facing some stiff competition.

"All teams will be a threat every week as they will have a great desire to beat the defending premiers," he said.

"We will not be taking any teams lightly, I feel we will be stronger than last year but so will our competitors.

"We have a good mix of skill, strength and toughness and this was evident in performances over the last couple of years, so I see 2012 being no different.

"Every player will have a job to do to execute the game plan each week."

Stanley believes opponents will have to play to their full potential to match the Workers this season.
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THE Country Rugby League has instructed the Group 6 website to remove a story that originally appeared in the Advertiser about a rally which is scheduled for Sunday.
The article informed rugby league clubs and fans of details on the Save Our Sides Protest Rally.

The Group 6 website confirmed removal of the article and other related stories which appeared on the website was not a decision made by the Group 6 Management Committee.

The rally will start at Campbelltown Council at 10am.

People will march to Campbelltown Sports Stadium.
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