WE WANT A FAIR GO FOR OUR AREA, MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND MORE THAN 4 NRL GAMES AT CAMPBELLTOWN STADIUM
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| Black&White | Feb 1 2012, 04:34 PM Post #701 |
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As most of you know the Group 6 Junior & Senior Clubs have been heavily spammed with "statements" from Paul Lake, Stephen Humphreys & now Geoff Carr (NSWRL) all pushing the joint senior comp debarcle. "Someone who knows someone, blah, blah, blah" passed on this email to me that was sent by the Group 6 Executive Officer, Stephen Hazelton, to all G6 Jr & Snr clubs. .................................................. Subject: RE the SOS Rally, Paul Lake & Geoff Carr Emails Hi All As you may have noticed, there are lots of emails (propaganda) being sent to everyone lately and I can only imagine as we get closer to the SOS rally even more will be sent. Some the content of these emails are design to make your blood boil, stating non truths and unreal stories. Please do not to reply to these emails, we feel it’s important that any response should be an united one from the Group. The Facts Group 6 Juniors has well run format providing clubs, teams and games for 2140 junior players, from U6 to U16 an excellent feeder group for any representative teams. Group 6 CRL has an excellent first, Reserve and 2nd grade, U18/1’s and U18/2’s competitions for 1250 players that other clubs would like to join. There will be no return to the Wests JL/Group 6 joint competition ever. The Clubs and Management will not let it happen. Group 6 already has an independent administrator i.e. not paid for by CRL or NSWRL So please do not reply to the garbage, let the replies be from 3390 players and 30 Rugby League Football Clubs all affiliated to the CRL. Kind regards Stephen Hazelton Executive Officer Group 6 Rugby League |
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| Black&White | Feb 1 2012, 04:45 PM Post #702 |
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I would not be surprised at all to find that the CRL acted on the instructions of Geoff Carr with a huge amount of pressure from Wests Tigers. I had heard via the grapevine that Ben Rogers contacted G6 complaining about them posting info and newspaper articles about the rally on their web sites and demanded that it be taken down. He was told no and not long after that CRL got involved. Ben Rogers is mooted to be the "independent" administrator that the NSWRL wants to head the fairytale joint comp. What a joke!!!! Also heard that he still hasn't supplied G6 seniors with a copy of the questionaire that he filled out in his meetings with the clubs last year to discuss that comp. Questionaire's that he filled out for them and wouldn't give them a copy. |
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| galahs | Feb 1 2012, 09:23 PM Post #703 |
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Dear Mr Carr So let me get this straight... So Wests Tigers are now affiliated with the NSWRL yet don't have a side in any NSWRL comp and Wests Junior League broke their affiliation away from the Magpies District club but the Magpies District Club constitution ratified by the NSWRL says they have power over the Wests Junior League but Wests Junior League refuse to acknowledge this so somehow Wests Junior League is now affiliated to the Wests Tigers but Wests Ashfield want Wests Junior League affiliated back to the Magpies District Club and its ok for the Campbelltown Eagles to play in a Sydney comp, but not the neighboring Group 6 comp and the NSWRL want to remove Group 6 and have a comp run by an independant administrator which Wests JL will accept but Wests JL wont accept allowing Group 6 to just run the comp and Group 6 wants nothing to do with Wests JL and Wests Tigers wont allow Group 6 board members onto the Magpies board and Wests Tigers now want to change their constitution to allow a Wests Tigers NSW Cup side based from Concord and Campbelltown Leagues club votes in line with Balmain at Wests Tigers board meetings and soon we wont have a single senior rep side for the entire Macarthur district and there is the strong possibility there wont be a single game of senior football played in Campbelltown on a weekend. I'm sorry but this all pretty much sums up the mess we are in out in the Macarthur and your response does nothing to fix the situation we have found ourselves in. Kindest of Regards Graeme Szynal |
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| Fence sitter | Feb 1 2012, 11:16 PM Post #704 |
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Can people believe how out of touch, people high up in the game are, it's so had to understand, You are right Galah, they can train play here, do this and that, but don't dare do this or that and get out if you go there, it doesn't make sense to anyone, no wonder supporters of Rugby League are jumping up and down. |
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| westie | Feb 2 2012, 09:27 AM Post #705 |
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That photo is at worrell park Ruse in wests jl boundaries??? What mr Carr say Edited by westie, Feb 2 2012, 09:28 AM.
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| westie | Feb 2 2012, 09:35 AM Post #706 |
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Mr Carr wonders why people will rally but his email states it pretty clear His said to easts you will play where I tell you not where you want to and if you choose my way I will the train play but if you choose not my way I will enforce directives upon you for not doing what I tell you Does this sound like how any loca rogue association operates to any or is it just me Your email mr Carr sums up why the rally is taking place add in the treatment of the magpies by wests tigers and you have a bunch of unhappy fans and volunteers who will correct your wrongs and give our area what it deserves see you all Sunday Long live the pies and ctown RL |
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| disco stu | Feb 2 2012, 01:26 PM Post #707 |
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Geoff Carr's statement is all smoke & mirrors, it shows how out of touch he is with local issues also - Brian Canavan has never spoken to club officials from group 6 juniors or snrs. - Wests tigers are a "private company" yet he claims they are affiliated to the nswrl , according to the nswrl constitution clubs can only be granted affiliation if they are an district rugby league club or association, he hasnt elaborated on this so to me this seems to be a concern if an affiliation has taken place meaning they have gone against their own constitution. This was also a major concern of how the wests tigers were going to have just one "branded" open age feeder team in the nsw cup and how they were going to affiliate. So geoff carr hasnt answered how wests tigers have suddenly became affiliated. - I cant make sense of how the campbelltown teams playing in group 6 cannot play & train at their home grounds because of a vaguely transparent play/train directive from nswrl yet if a combined comp which involves group 6 & wests jrl management then suddenly they can ? CRL won't issue a certificate of currency to the eagles & roos for councils lease agreement policy due to boundary issues, yet insurances will be honored if a combined comp is back on. Suddenly barriers will be torn down and everything will be ok, my opinion is it is bully tactics by the nswrl to get what they want. -nswrl said they gladly fund the appointment of an "independent administrator" to run a combined comp , would this truly be independent ? nswrl call the shots while crl follows thats how it has been. Sadly CRL have not stood up for its constituents even asking for the removal of the protest rally information on the group 6 website see link, http://www.macarthuradvertiser.com.au/n ... 40001.aspx You can see by my little brief we have been fed some BS, it seems to me that nswrl are nothing more than corporate bullys who simply want whats best for them not for the stakeholders in the game. Edited by disco stu, Feb 2 2012, 01:30 PM.
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| westie | Feb 2 2012, 01:53 PM Post #708 |
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Stu that is the best and most accurate account of events thus far I totally agree nswrl must think we out wests and group 6 are all stooges and bow down to the bully tactics well come Sunday we will show we are not intimidated one bit and will continue to fight this rally won't stop Sunday I'll tell a man it's to the death |
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| Black&White | Feb 2 2012, 02:39 PM Post #709 |
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Geoff Carr has been very busy again spamming the Group 6 clubs, this email was passed on to me by "SWKSWKS"...... Subject: RE: Save Our Sides Rugby League Protest Rally Campbelltown - 5th FEB - Media Release Dear Mr Szynal As you may be aware the Western Suburbs Junior Rugby League became an Incorporated Body in the late 1980s and severed their ties with the Western Suburbs District Rugby League. Despite numerous attempts to reconcile the two bodies this has not happened hence the NSWRL Board’s decision to have the Western Suburbs Juniors affiliation through the Wests Tigers. The fact that the Wests Tigers do not have a team in the NSW Rugby League competition is irrelevant as they are an affiliated body. You must appreciate that metropolitan competitions are run by the NSW Rugby League and the Group 6 competition is a competition of the Country Rugby League which the NSW Rugby League has no jurisdiction over. Hence the different treatment of the Campbelltown clubs when they elect to play in Group 6 rather than competitions conducted by the NSW Rugby League. All stakeholders will get an opportunity to talk to Brian Canavan about the future competitions in Macarthur and at the end of the day Brian will make a recommendation to the NSW Rugby League which will be in the best interest of the competitions in the area rather than individuals or individual clubs. Regards Geoff Carr General Manager .................................................................................. Now I've highlighted a couple of statements because it seems to me that they contradict each other. Either CRL is a separate entity that NSWRL has no jurisdiction over (Geoff's words), or not. Why is it that when NSWRL say jump the CRL says "how high"? NSWRL didn't want the Rally info on the G6 web sites, had a hissy fit to CRL and suddenly G6 are told to take it down. Where is the independence here? The other statement I've highlighted seems to contradict the first, Brian Canavan has/is going to "talk" to stakeholders & write a report for NSWRL on the future of RL comps in the Macarthur area. Now this must just involve west juniors comps because as Mr Carr has stated NSWRL has no jurisdiction over the CRL? So which is it Mr Carr? At the same time "all stakeholders will get an opportunity to talk to Brian Canavan" note the change in tense? - there is a big difference in someone who HAS talked to stakeholders and someone who WILL (sometime in the future... maybe....) Let's not forget October 2009 when Mr Carr took it upon himself to interfer in the Group 6 AGM by sending a memo to all clubs telling them how to vote. This memo was suppose to be from both himself & Terry Quinn (CRL), what was odd was that it only had Mr Carr's signature on it. I still have a copy of that memo somewhere - I'll have to hunt it up & post it. |
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| Blue Devil | Feb 2 2012, 03:31 PM Post #710 |
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The Campbelltown Eagles has contracted 12 year club junior Mason Talolua, Mason played in last years Wests Tigers National 20's team and Captained our 18's Group 6 Premeirship winning team 3 years ago, he was a star performer for the Tigers, his return to the club will fill a big hole left from front rower Matt Blunden that is trying his hand at Rugby Union, we wish Mat Blunden all the best with an open door, and I'm sure that would be good news to Dave Lowe. Ben Weir also signing with teh Eagles to bolster up the Eagles Pack The Campbelltown Eagles will play in the Kiama 9 A-Side on the 3rd of March and then have a full senior club trial against Berry on the 10th of March which will see the 18's, 3rd Grade, Reserve Grade and 1st Grade have a good hit out against the Group 7 club. We also would like to Congratualte Theo Leato from out 2011 team that has signed for Manly in the National 20's for 2012. Edited by Blue Devil, Feb 2 2012, 03:32 PM.
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| tc6_11 | Feb 2 2012, 03:34 PM Post #711 |
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All of this is detracting from Rugby League. I'm sick of getting the emails. Who's got trials booked etc? Oakdale will be travelling to Bathurst on Saturday 17th March to take on the Panthers. Still looking for other games at the moment, with the possibility of taking on Helensburgh |
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| galahs | Feb 2 2012, 04:43 PM Post #712 |
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Dear Mr Carr So let me get this straight... So Wests Tigers are now affiliated with the NSWRL yet don't have a side in any NSWRL comp and Wests Junior League broke their affiliation away from the Magpies District club but the Magpies District Club constitution ratified by the NSWRL says they have power over the Wests Junior League but Wests Junior League refuse to acknowledge this so somehow Wests Junior League is now affiliated to the Wests Tigers but Wests Ashfield want Wests Junior League affiliated back to the Magpies District Club and its ok for the Campbelltown Eagles to play in a Sydney comp, but not the neighboring Group 6 comp and the NSWRL want to remove Group 6 and have a comp run by an independant administrator which Wests JL will accept but Wests JL wont accept allowing Group 6 to just run the comp and Group 6 wants nothing to do with Wests JL and Wests Tigers wont allow Group 6 board members onto the Magpies board and Wests Tigers now want to change their constitution to allow a Wests Tigers NSW Cup side based from Concord and Campbelltown Leagues club votes in line with Balmain at Wests Tigers board meetings and soon we wont have a single senior rep side for the entire Macarthur district and there is the strong possibility there wont be a single game of senior football played in Campbelltown on a weekend. I'm sorry but that pretty much sums up the mess we are in out in the Macarthur and your response does nothing to fix the situation we have found ourselves in. Kindest of Regards Graeme Szynal
Thankyou Mr Carr for your prompt reply. It is a shame that issues such as differing governing bodies has created the problems we now face. This issue highlights to me why the game needs a single administrator to make the best decisions for Rugby League. An administrator that isn't bound to old restrictions such as CRL and NSWRL boundaries. As for Wests Junior Leagues affiliation I am still unsure of a few things. - What was the exact date that the Wests Tigers become affiliated to the NSWRL? I thought the NSWRL constitution stated you must be a district club or association? - What exact date did the Wests Junior League affiliate with the Wests Tigers? - Why has it taken so long for the Wests Junior League to affiliate to a club? Prior to affiliating with the Wests Tigers, were they un-affiliated during that whole time? 20+ years? How did NSWRL allow that to happen? - Why were no press releases made when Wests Tigers affiliated to the NSWRL or when Wests Junior League affiliated with the Wests Tigers? - Can Wests Junior League Clubs now approach the Wests Tigers and appeal the decision to deny them the right to train and play at their own home grounds? Finally I find it interesting that you mention a recommendation to the NSW Rugby League will be made which will be in the best interest of the competitions in the area rather than individuals or individual clubs. Yet you a using a single individual to make these recommendations. I am sure Mr Canavan is a capable person, but why is it being left up to a single individual to decide what is best for Rugby League in the area? The fact three clubs have decided to play in Group 6 rather than in the Wests Junior League highlights there is an issue in the Wests Junior League. Maybe you should consider putting an administrator into Wests Junior League before you decide to dictate terms to Group 6. Regards Graeme Szynal |
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| disco stu | Feb 2 2012, 05:13 PM Post #713 |
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Well said galahs, well said. |
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| disco stu | Feb 2 2012, 05:18 PM Post #714 |
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Yeah its silly, we can put a man on the moon but can't seem to resolve these outstanding issues. Flanagan being a 40 point player going to fit within your allocated points ? might have to wear your red strip against bathurst as their strip is predominantly black also.
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| Fence sitter | Feb 2 2012, 05:23 PM Post #715 |
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Dam great write up! |
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| tc6_11 | Feb 2 2012, 06:44 PM Post #716 |
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Our points issue was a one off. If people knew the half of it, they would never even look at our points again |
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| Warriors78 | Feb 2 2012, 07:09 PM Post #717 |
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Group 6 footy back at worrell bring back the glory days I'd love to have a few beers at worrell again nice sunny day watching the boys in blue & gold, red & white give it to all comers |
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| mini-wombats | Feb 3 2012, 07:47 AM Post #718 |
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U/18's Group 6 Training Squad The Group 6 under 18’s squad and team will be coached by the newly signed First Grade coach for Thirlmere, Dane Wooden. The squad is getting prepared to play an in house trial in two weeks to select the Group 6 team to play against Illawarra at Victoria Park, Picton on 4th March for selection into the Redbacks side. The combined Group 6/Illawarra side The Redbacks will be coached by Jason Hazelton from the Group 6 club of Campbelltown Eagles. The Redbacks will go on the play The Stingrays in MacKay Park, Batemans Bay on the 17th March and back to Victoria Park, Picton on the 24th March the play The Western Rams. Make sure you mark these gates in your calendar if you want to see some great local representative U/18’s footy games. Group 6 18’s Staff Coach: Dane Wooden Manager: Stephen Hazelton Sports Trainer: Phill Perry Sports Trainer: Chris Leckie Leagues Safe: Todd Meads Training Times Monday 6th March 6pm @ Jack Nash Mt Annan Wednesday 15th March 6pm @ Jack Nash Mt Annan Wednesday 22nd March 6pm @ Jack Nash Mt Annan Wednesday 29th March 6pm @ Jack Nash Mt Annan Thank you to Mt Annan & Picton for supporting our Group 6 Representative Footy |
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| Black&White | Feb 3 2012, 08:18 AM Post #719 |
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| mini-wombats | Feb 3 2012, 08:51 AM Post #720 |
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thanx for putting the pics up mate...i tried but had no idea..lol |
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