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Mar 10 2012, 06:15 AM
Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
TC don't know anything about the five outside player rule???? Not sure that is accurate. As for the Warragamba 18's going to Camden, well as far as I know if it is agreable between the two clubs there isn't a problem. Another thing, you should be concentrating on the problems your own club are facing instead of looking at what other clubs are doing. You are not doing yourself or your club any favours by bagging the Group. Those were pretty strong words you used. Instead of getting on here winging, why didn't your club get together with the group earlier in the year and try and work out some long term strategies for the future. The way you are going on you are burning bridges mate. Your problems are not player movements to your club, it is about points, and I think you know that.
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Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

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Mar 10 2012, 06:15 AM
Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Yes I agree with B&W the fact that you left one member of your committee to try and have a motion passed (and I might add a very decent bloke, the one member), when you were conspicuous by your absence. Do you think the General Committee are stupid. The General Committe saw that the motion was entirely to Oakdale's benefit. No other Club in Group 6 is trying to get a team moved over from another club. Most Club's understand your predicament, but you guys really need to put some plans in motion so that you don't continually have this problem season after season. I also second B&W sentiments regarding the Picton U18 you have up there. Why would Picton agree to clear a player of that talent.
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I noticed quite a bit of talk about the Mossy club and how the committee have let everyone down. Well one of my good mates is on that committee and he tells a very different story. The club was having trouble attracting new players (not through lack of trying), no denying that but they still had 7 players from the premiership side interested in playing but the majority those 7 felt that our juniors and reserve grade players from last year that would have had to step into 1st grade wouldnt have been good enough. Does wonders for those players confidence. So 5 of the 7 decided not to play at Mossy because they didnt want to tough it out and help some of the juniors through. They wanted a side laid on a platter for them. If they had all committed they may not have made the semis' who knows but at least they could have had a crack. I would think most clubs would love to have 7 premiership players in their side but lets take the easy option out and go elsewhere. :angry:
RUSTY NAILS....
Who are these 7 players you are talking about? I heard that the Club was yet to sign any players, not even any locals had put pen to paper at any stage. Pretty poor form by the Club only two weeks out from the start of the season & no players signed.
You would of thought the Club would have been talking & signing players at the end of last season.
If I remember correctly the Club struggled for numbers last year, on 3 or 4 occasions 4 to 5 of the starting 1st Grade line up played Reserve Grade so they could field a team.

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Mar 10 2012, 08:39 AM
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Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
TC don't know anything about the five outside player rule???? Not sure that is accurate. As for the Warragamba 18's going to Camden, well as far as I know if it is agreable between the two clubs there isn't a problem. Another thing, you should be concentrating on the problems your own club are facing instead of looking at what other clubs are doing. You are not doing yourself or your club any favours by bagging the Group. Those were pretty strong words you used. Instead of getting on here winging, why didn't your club get together with the group earlier in the year and try and work out some long term strategies for the future. The way you are going on you are burning bridges mate. Your problems are not player movements to your club, it is about points, and I think you know that.
To appease u I removed the last part of the comment, but as for whinging I don't think u understand the gist of my argument.
I am not complaining about other clubs, read what I am saying. I hope Matt and the bulls have a great year, and the warragamba boys, im purely showing that the bylaw is not just a black and white issue. I'm purely and simply saying that the rules have been relaxed for some and not others. And the oaks agreed to release the players that I am referring to, it's the group holding it up.
As for points, I don't know what you are talking about!
And yeah I'm bitter about it, you put 12 months of planning into something and try and watch it get crushed. Don't try and talk to me about no long term strategy.
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Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Underhanded, please. You get one sided feedback.
Yeah we got concessions, for bloody reserve graders. Then we asked if we could register Clint mason, a bloody local and long term servant of the club and you guys said no.
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Mar 10 2012, 09:16 AM
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Mar 10 2012, 06:15 AM
Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Yes I agree with B&W the fact that you left one member of your committee to try and have a motion passed (and I might add a very decent bloke, the one member), when you were conspicuous by your absence. Do you think the General Committee are stupid. The General Committe saw that the motion was entirely to Oakdale's benefit. No other Club in Group 6 is trying to get a team moved over from another club. Most Club's understand your predicament, but you guys really need to put some plans in motion so that you don't continually have this problem season after season. I also second B&W sentiments regarding the Picton U18 you have up there. Why would Picton agree to clear a player of that talent.
Very unfortunate that he was left there on his own, I'm on arvo shift and our president got called away at the last minute. If you're talking about young goughy, the only reason he is at Oakdale is because of his old man.
We have done nothing untoward and can't get any help, you put all of your free time into something for nothing and have it ripped away. Then meet every request that is made of you, and still get blocked. See how you feel. Clubs should be supporting us, we are promoting rugby league, we have our own interest as well, but ultimately we are doing the right thing for the game.
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Mar 10 2012, 06:15 AM
Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Yes I agree with B&W the fact that you left one member of your committee to try and have a motion passed (and I might add a very decent bloke, the one member), when you were conspicuous by your absence. Do you think the General Committee are stupid. The General Committe saw that the motion was entirely to Oakdale's benefit. No other Club in Group 6 is trying to get a team moved over from another club. Most Club's understand your predicament, but you guys really need to put some plans in motion so that you don't continually have this problem season after season. I also second B&W sentiments regarding the Picton U18 you have up there. Why would Picton agree to clear a player of that talent.
Very unfortunate that he was left there on his own, I'm on arvo shift and our president got called away at the last minute. If you're talking about young goughy, the only reason he is at Oakdale is because of his old man.
We have done nothing untoward and can't get any help, you put all of your free time into something for nothing and have it ripped away. Then meet every request that is made of you, and still get blocked. See how you feel. Clubs should be supporting us, we are promoting rugby league, we have our own interest as well, but ultimately we are doing the right thing for the game.
How can you say you are doing what's best for Rugby League when you are trying to decimate another club's 18? All the clubs know what you're up to - it was blatantly obvious at the Group meeting - so I wouldn't expect any support or sympathy from them.


I'm not getting one-sided feed back I was at the meeting and saw your move in action. Your delegate stated that he was going on info given to him from the club's secretary - that's you isn't it?
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I noticed quite a bit of talk about the Mossy club and how the committee have let everyone down. Well one of my good mates is on that committee and he tells a very different story. The club was having trouble attracting new players (not through lack of trying), no denying that but they still had 7 players from the premiership side interested in playing but the majority those 7 felt that our juniors and reserve grade players from last year that would have had to step into 1st grade wouldnt have been good enough. Does wonders for those players confidence. So 5 of the 7 decided not to play at Mossy because they didnt want to tough it out and help some of the juniors through. They wanted a side laid on a platter for them. If they had all committed they may not have made the semis' who knows but at least they could have had a crack. I would think most clubs would love to have 7 premiership players in their side but lets take the easy option out and go elsewhere. :angry:
RUSTY NAILS....
Who are these 7 players you are talking about? I heard that the Club was yet to sign any players, not even any locals had put pen to paper at any stage. Pretty poor form by the Club only two weeks out from the start of the season & no players signed.
You would of thought the Club would have been talking & signing players at the end of last season.
If I remember correctly the Club struggled for numbers last year, on 3 or 4 occasions 4 to 5 of the starting 1st Grade line up played Reserve Grade so they could field a team.

Real shame about mossy come from wooden spooners to premiers in 5 years now all the hard work gone. Have heard things started going pair shaped after gf. Apparently noble hinted he might give group 7 a crack and not much was done to keep him and now mossy fallen over they are following carnt blame them sounds like poor management to me. Hope they can bounce back again. Will say this if jamberoo get the boys who have been making the trip down the moutain they will give the comp a shake.
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Mar 10 2012, 06:15 AM
Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Yes I agree with B&W the fact that you left one member of your committee to try and have a motion passed (and I might add a very decent bloke, the one member), when you were conspicuous by your absence. Do you think the General Committee are stupid. The General Committe saw that the motion was entirely to Oakdale's benefit. No other Club in Group 6 is trying to get a team moved over from another club. Most Club's understand your predicament, but you guys really need to put some plans in motion so that you don't continually have this problem season after season. I also second B&W sentiments regarding the Picton U18 you have up there. Why would Picton agree to clear a player of that talent.
Very unfortunate that he was left there on his own, I'm on arvo shift and our president got called away at the last minute. If you're talking about young goughy, the only reason he is at Oakdale is because of his old man.
We have done nothing untoward and can't get any help, you put all of your free time into something for nothing and have it ripped away. Then meet every request that is made of you, and still get blocked. See how you feel. Clubs should be supporting us, we are promoting rugby league, we have our own interest as well, but ultimately we are doing the right thing for the game.
How can you say you are doing what's best for Rugby League when you are trying to decimate another club's 18? All the clubs know what you're up to - it was blatantly obvious at the Group meeting - so I wouldn't expect any support or sympathy from them.


I'm not getting one-sided feed back I was at the meeting and saw your move in action. Your delegate stated that he was going on info given to him from the club's secretary - that's you isn't it?
Here's how I can say im doing what's best. My club is providing a place for these players to play where they want to. Why don't u come and speak to these kids and ask them where they want to play? Isn't that what rugby league is? Enjoying it and participation?
We are not trying to decimate anyone, seeing though you're so switched on what are we up to? What has been done untoward? Come on I urge you to throw it out there.
I want our club to have an under 18s this year. Considering Oakdale provides the oaks with lots of juniors I didn't think it was a far stretch to have them for 1 year, particularly because it has never been a problem between the 2 clubs in the past. Charlie Rogers said it himself.
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Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Yes I agree with B&W the fact that you left one member of your committee to try and have a motion passed (and I might add a very decent bloke, the one member), when you were conspicuous by your absence. Do you think the General Committee are stupid. The General Committe saw that the motion was entirely to Oakdale's benefit. No other Club in Group 6 is trying to get a team moved over from another club. Most Club's understand your predicament, but you guys really need to put some plans in motion so that you don't continually have this problem season after season. I also second B&W sentiments regarding the Picton U18 you have up there. Why would Picton agree to clear a player of that talent.
Very unfortunate that he was left there on his own, I'm on arvo shift and our president got called away at the last minute. If you're talking about young goughy, the only reason he is at Oakdale is because of his old man.
We have done nothing untoward and can't get any help, you put all of your free time into something for nothing and have it ripped away. Then meet every request that is made of you, and still get blocked. See how you feel. Clubs should be supporting us, we are promoting rugby league, we have our own interest as well, but ultimately we are doing the right thing for the game.
How can you say you are doing what's best for Rugby League when you are trying to decimate another club's 18? All the clubs know what you're up to - it was blatantly obvious at the Group meeting - so I wouldn't expect any support or sympathy from them.


I'm not getting one-sided feed back I was at the meeting and saw your move in action. Your delegate stated that he was going on info given to him from the club's secretary - that's you isn't it?
Here's how I can say im doing what's best. My club is providing a place for these players to play where they want to. Why don't u come and speak to these kids and ask them where they want to play? Isn't that what rugby league is? Enjoying it and participation?
We are not trying to decimate anyone, seeing though you're so switched on what are we up to? What has been done untoward? Come on I urge you to throw it out there.
I want our club to have an under 18s this year. Considering Oakdale provides the oaks with lots of juniors I didn't think it was a far stretch to have them for 1 year, particularly because it has never been a problem between the 2 clubs in the past. Charlie Rogers said it himself.
Group 6 have the U/18's by-law which was supported by the majority of clubs. How do you plan to circumvent that?
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All good @ bundy. We have transfers for 5 players being worked on. These were all registered players with us before in union in 2011/10. Except one. Strong numbers @ bundy training since January, averaging @ 18 per session with 27 signed. Good mix of youth and experience. Looking fwd to trials with MT Annan & Bargo in the coming weeks.
Can you confirm from the article below from decembers local newspaper if Bundanoon cannot take players from another group 6 club then why have the highlanders got 5 clearances from Moss Vale ????

Switching codes

BY LAUREN WRIGHT

http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/news/local/news/general/switching-codes/2399406.aspx?storypage=0
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New Bundanoon coach Brett Breeze and president Chris Ingmire get ready for the 2012 season at Bundanoon Oval. Photo by Lauren Wright


AFTER months of uncertainty, Bundanoon Highlanders have announced they will join Group 6 rugby league for the 2012 season.When negotiations with Illawarra District Rugby Union (IDRU) stalled, Bundanoon turned to Group 6.
No longer the Highlanders, Bundanoon Rugby League will play as a stand alone club in Group?6's third grade equivalent.

With a new code and a new committee, president Chris Ingmire said it was looking up for the club now that a decision had been made about its future.

"It's all going forward," he said. "I think we'll go well. Everyone's fairly keen for it."

While Bundanoon cannot take players from other clubs within Group 6 competition for the 2012 season, Ingmire said they had already picked up a few extra players.Ingmire said key players from the Bundanoon team last year such as Kyal Martin, Dane Trompete, Lachlan Parry, Dan Hewson and Cheynne Denning had also expressed their interest to remain with the club and play rugby league.

Bundanoon struggled in the IDRU second grade competition last year and while many players had hoped to stay with Illawarra, Ingmire said they looked forward to a new challenge next year.

"It's a bit disappointing, [but] everyone's pretty happy to go to league," he said.

There will also be a new man in charge, with Brett Breeze to take on the coaching role for Bundanoon.

Breeze has had experience as a rugby league coach and was involved with Moss Vale Dragons for a number of years.

"I'm looking forward to coaching," he said. "I think they've got a pretty good group of fellas here who are really keen, so I think they should adapt to rugby league and it should be a good season," Breeze said.

While a number of players had had league experience, Breeze said he wanted to get the basics right to begin with and hoped they could be competitive.

"I think we'll just keep it pretty simple to start with," he said.

Bundanoon will hold a sign-up evening on Saturday, January 15, at the Central Hotel in Moss Vale.Any players aged 17 and over are encouraged to join, with training beginning on Tuesday, January 17, at Bundanoon Oval at 6pm.

"Even though the guys played rugby union, I think rugby league is such a popular sport [that] everyone knows the basic rules of the game so I don't think it'll take them long to adapt," Breeze said.

"As long as the guys are competitive in their first season that's the main thing."
Tha bundy boy has gone quite since i posted this, just want to find out was Bundanoons statement in reference not to take players from other group 6 clubs for the 2012 season a directive from group 6 management or a moral issue from the bundanoon club itself. Maybe if it is a directive it looks like it has been lifted to help Bargos chances of fielding players from picton & thirlmere, either way some clarification would be appreciated.
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Feb 28 2012, 11:57 AM
All good @ bundy. We have transfers for 5 players being worked on. These were all registered players with us before in union in 2011/10. Except one. Strong numbers @ bundy training since January, averaging @ 18 per session with 27 signed. Good mix of youth and experience. Looking fwd to trials with MT Annan & Bargo in the coming weeks.
Can you confirm from the article below from decembers local newspaper if Bundanoon cannot take players from another group 6 club then why have the highlanders got 5 clearances from Moss Vale ????

Switching codes

BY LAUREN WRIGHT

http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/news/local/news/general/switching-codes/2399406.aspx?storypage=0
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New Bundanoon coach Brett Breeze and president Chris Ingmire get ready for the 2012 season at Bundanoon Oval. Photo by Lauren Wright


AFTER months of uncertainty, Bundanoon Highlanders have announced they will join Group 6 rugby league for the 2012 season.When negotiations with Illawarra District Rugby Union (IDRU) stalled, Bundanoon turned to Group 6.
No longer the Highlanders, Bundanoon Rugby League will play as a stand alone club in Group?6's third grade equivalent.

With a new code and a new committee, president Chris Ingmire said it was looking up for the club now that a decision had been made about its future.

"It's all going forward," he said. "I think we'll go well. Everyone's fairly keen for it."

While Bundanoon cannot take players from other clubs within Group 6 competition for the 2012 season, Ingmire said they had already picked up a few extra players.Ingmire said key players from the Bundanoon team last year such as Kyal Martin, Dane Trompete, Lachlan Parry, Dan Hewson and Cheynne Denning had also expressed their interest to remain with the club and play rugby league.

Bundanoon struggled in the IDRU second grade competition last year and while many players had hoped to stay with Illawarra, Ingmire said they looked forward to a new challenge next year.

"It's a bit disappointing, [but] everyone's pretty happy to go to league," he said.

There will also be a new man in charge, with Brett Breeze to take on the coaching role for Bundanoon.

Breeze has had experience as a rugby league coach and was involved with Moss Vale Dragons for a number of years.

"I'm looking forward to coaching," he said. "I think they've got a pretty good group of fellas here who are really keen, so I think they should adapt to rugby league and it should be a good season," Breeze said.

While a number of players had had league experience, Breeze said he wanted to get the basics right to begin with and hoped they could be competitive.

"I think we'll just keep it pretty simple to start with," he said.

Bundanoon will hold a sign-up evening on Saturday, January 15, at the Central Hotel in Moss Vale.Any players aged 17 and over are encouraged to join, with training beginning on Tuesday, January 17, at Bundanoon Oval at 6pm.

"Even though the guys played rugby union, I think rugby league is such a popular sport [that] everyone knows the basic rules of the game so I don't think it'll take them long to adapt," Breeze said.

"As long as the guys are competitive in their first season that's the main thing."
Tha bundy boy has gone quite since i posted this, just want to find out was Bundanoons statement in reference not to take players from other group 6 clubs for the 2012 season a directive from group 6 management or a moral issue from the bundanoon club itself. Maybe if it is a directive it looks like it has been lifted to help Bargos chances of fielding players from picton & thirlmere, either way some clarification would be appreciated.
I don't think that Picton have cleared players to Bargo that they were not happy to do so. The Group will have to be very careful who they clear or we will have a situation where a third grade club grows to the detriment of traditional 1st grade clubs. Then we will have the wests comp!
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Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Yes I agree with B&W the fact that you left one member of your committee to try and have a motion passed (and I might add a very decent bloke, the one member), when you were conspicuous by your absence. Do you think the General Committee are stupid. The General Committe saw that the motion was entirely to Oakdale's benefit. No other Club in Group 6 is trying to get a team moved over from another club. Most Club's understand your predicament, but you guys really need to put some plans in motion so that you don't continually have this problem season after season. I also second B&W sentiments regarding the Picton U18 you have up there. Why would Picton agree to clear a player of that talent.
Very unfortunate that he was left there on his own, I'm on arvo shift and our president got called away at the last minute. If you're talking about young goughy, the only reason he is at Oakdale is because of his old man.
We have done nothing untoward and can't get any help, you put all of your free time into something for nothing and have it ripped away. Then meet every request that is made of you, and still get blocked. See how you feel. Clubs should be supporting us, we are promoting rugby league, we have our own interest as well, but ultimately we are doing the right thing for the game.
How can you say you are doing what's best for Rugby League when you are trying to decimate another club's 18? All the clubs know what you're up to - it was blatantly obvious at the Group meeting - so I wouldn't expect any support or sympathy from them.


I'm not getting one-sided feed back I was at the meeting and saw your move in action. Your delegate stated that he was going on info given to him from the club's secretary - that's you isn't it?
Here's how I can say im doing what's best. My club is providing a place for these players to play where they want to. Why don't u come and speak to these kids and ask them where they want to play? Isn't that what rugby league is? Enjoying it and participation?
We are not trying to decimate anyone, seeing though you're so switched on what are we up to? What has been done untoward? Come on I urge you to throw it out there.
I want our club to have an under 18s this year. Considering Oakdale provides the oaks with lots of juniors I didn't think it was a far stretch to have them for 1 year, particularly because it has never been a problem between the 2 clubs in the past. Charlie Rogers said it himself.
Group 6 have the U/18's by-law which was supported by the majority of clubs. How do you plan to circumvent that?
I don't plan on circumventing anything.
This is where u r getting wrong.
I was hoping that the 5 or 6 Oakdale locals would be allowed to register with us. We got a few players from outside the group, and 1 kid who has never played. That would get us off the ground. The norm in previous seasons has been if oakdale had the numbers, the oaks would release them.
Stop dodging the question what are we up to? What's the big conspiracy?
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Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Yes I agree with B&W the fact that you left one member of your committee to try and have a motion passed (and I might add a very decent bloke, the one member), when you were conspicuous by your absence. Do you think the General Committee are stupid. The General Committe saw that the motion was entirely to Oakdale's benefit. No other Club in Group 6 is trying to get a team moved over from another club. Most Club's understand your predicament, but you guys really need to put some plans in motion so that you don't continually have this problem season after season. I also second B&W sentiments regarding the Picton U18 you have up there. Why would Picton agree to clear a player of that talent.
Very unfortunate that he was left there on his own, I'm on arvo shift and our president got called away at the last minute. If you're talking about young goughy, the only reason he is at Oakdale is because of his old man.
We have done nothing untoward and can't get any help, you put all of your free time into something for nothing and have it ripped away. Then meet every request that is made of you, and still get blocked. See how you feel. Clubs should be supporting us, we are promoting rugby league, we have our own interest as well, but ultimately we are doing the right thing for the game.
How can you say you are doing what's best for Rugby League when you are trying to decimate another club's 18? All the clubs know what you're up to - it was blatantly obvious at the Group meeting - so I wouldn't expect any support or sympathy from them.


I'm not getting one-sided feed back I was at the meeting and saw your move in action. Your delegate stated that he was going on info given to him from the club's secretary - that's you isn't it?
Here's how I can say im doing what's best. My club is providing a place for these players to play where they want to. Why don't u come and speak to these kids and ask them where they want to play? Isn't that what rugby league is? Enjoying it and participation?
We are not trying to decimate anyone, seeing though you're so switched on what are we up to? What has been done untoward? Come on I urge you to throw it out there.
I want our club to have an under 18s this year. Considering Oakdale provides the oaks with lots of juniors I didn't think it was a far stretch to have them for 1 year, particularly because it has never been a problem between the 2 clubs in the past. Charlie Rogers said it himself.
Group 6 have the U/18's by-law which was supported by the majority of clubs. How do you plan to circumvent that?
I don't plan on circumventing anything.
This is where u r getting wrong.
I was hoping that the 5 or 6 Oakdale locals would be allowed to register with us. We got a few players from outside the group, and 1 kid who has never played. That would get us off the ground. The norm in previous seasons has been if oakdale had the numbers, the oaks would release them.
Stop dodging the question what are we up to? What's the big conspiracy?
At the Group meeting your club put forward a motion to force The Oaks to pull their 18's so that you could sign them up. You can couch it in any fancy terms you like to make it more general but no one there was fooled that this was anything more than your club trying to take 18's from another club.

I'm not dodging any issues. You don't have the juniors to support an U/18's and a couple of the boys in question will be able to play for you next year. The Oaks have said that they hope to field an 18's they should be given the opportunity to do so.
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All good @ bundy. We have transfers for 5 players being worked on. These were all registered players with us before in union in 2011/10. Except one. Strong numbers @ bundy training since January, averaging @ 18 per session with 27 signed. Good mix of youth and experience. Looking fwd to trials with MT Annan & Bargo in the coming weeks.
Can you confirm from the article below from decembers local newspaper if Bundanoon cannot take players from another group 6 club then why have the highlanders got 5 clearances from Moss Vale ????

Switching codes

BY LAUREN WRIGHT

http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/news/local/news/general/switching-codes/2399406.aspx?storypage=0
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New Bundanoon coach Brett Breeze and president Chris Ingmire get ready for the 2012 season at Bundanoon Oval. Photo by Lauren Wright


AFTER months of uncertainty, Bundanoon Highlanders have announced they will join Group 6 rugby league for the 2012 season.When negotiations with Illawarra District Rugby Union (IDRU) stalled, Bundanoon turned to Group 6.
No longer the Highlanders, Bundanoon Rugby League will play as a stand alone club in Group?6's third grade equivalent.

With a new code and a new committee, president Chris Ingmire said it was looking up for the club now that a decision had been made about its future.

"It's all going forward," he said. "I think we'll go well. Everyone's fairly keen for it."

While Bundanoon cannot take players from other clubs within Group 6 competition for the 2012 season, Ingmire said they had already picked up a few extra players.Ingmire said key players from the Bundanoon team last year such as Kyal Martin, Dane Trompete, Lachlan Parry, Dan Hewson and Cheynne Denning had also expressed their interest to remain with the club and play rugby league.

Bundanoon struggled in the IDRU second grade competition last year and while many players had hoped to stay with Illawarra, Ingmire said they looked forward to a new challenge next year.

"It's a bit disappointing, [but] everyone's pretty happy to go to league," he said.

There will also be a new man in charge, with Brett Breeze to take on the coaching role for Bundanoon.

Breeze has had experience as a rugby league coach and was involved with Moss Vale Dragons for a number of years.

"I'm looking forward to coaching," he said. "I think they've got a pretty good group of fellas here who are really keen, so I think they should adapt to rugby league and it should be a good season," Breeze said.

While a number of players had had league experience, Breeze said he wanted to get the basics right to begin with and hoped they could be competitive.

"I think we'll just keep it pretty simple to start with," he said.

Bundanoon will hold a sign-up evening on Saturday, January 15, at the Central Hotel in Moss Vale.Any players aged 17 and over are encouraged to join, with training beginning on Tuesday, January 17, at Bundanoon Oval at 6pm.

"Even though the guys played rugby union, I think rugby league is such a popular sport [that] everyone knows the basic rules of the game so I don't think it'll take them long to adapt," Breeze said.

"As long as the guys are competitive in their first season that's the main thing."
Tha bundy boy has gone quite since i posted this, just want to find out was Bundanoons statement in reference not to take players from other group 6 clubs for the 2012 season a directive from group 6 management or a moral issue from the bundanoon club itself. Maybe if it is a directive it looks like it has been lifted to help Bargos chances of fielding players from picton & thirlmere, either way some clarification would be appreciated.
I don't think that Picton have cleared players to Bargo that they were not happy to do so. The Group will have to be very careful who they clear or we will have a situation where a third grade club grows to the detriment of traditional 1st grade clubs. Then we will have the wests comp!
The group needs to be very careful here and manage appropriately, Mr Andrews stated in the newspaper report that

"People may suggest Bundanoon haven't helped but Bundanoon wouldn't provide first grade players,"

http://www.southernhighlandnews.com.au/news/local/sport/rugby-league/moss-vale-dragons-lose-their-fire/2478979.aspx?storypage=0

This is true but bundanoon like bargo that have no jnrs are taking away depth from established clubs with first grade teams. Bowral & robo at least have jnrs so they arent taxing on bigger clubs like mossvale or mittagong.The highlands has 3 establised 3rd grade sides, robo,bowral now bundanoon now moss vale will become the 4th, in an area of approx 40,000, can you imagine three 3rd grade sides in the wollondilly for comparison (theres always been one appin now bargo)and what player drain that would have on the likes of Picton,thirlmere,oakdale, the oaks etc ???? Moss Vales current situation has evolved from a number of factors, but im focusing on this as this could have an affect across the whole group 6 area not just in the highlands.

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Scrap points for 18s and allow out of area transfers and i believe the by law for oaks and oakdale should be merged so those kids coming out of 16s at oaks can choose to play 18s at oakdale
On third grade new clubs should not be allowed to form in close proximity to established 1st grade clubs especially ones with no juniors ie bargo,bundanoon the group should be encouraging 1st and reserve 1st and for most or next you will have Oran park,Gregory hills,mt hunter,menangle,Douglas park,Wilton spring up so where does it end
Thirds needs a massive over haul IMO
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Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
Could you post that 5 player rule please because I've looked for it and can't find it.

Your biggest problem is the underhanded way you have gone about things. Your delegate at the Group meeting did not have a well thought out argument when he tried to have that motion passed re. clubs having a set date to notify the group as to whether they had a team or not. It was obvious that it was directed at the Oaks to force the collapse of their 18's so that Oakdale could swoop in and take them. :dunno: :dunno:

The clubs have long memories mate and they haven't forgotten Oakdale getting concessions a couple of years ago and then immediately pushing for more.

The Picton U/18 you have up there will not be cleared.

Yes I agree with B&W the fact that you left one member of your committee to try and have a motion passed (and I might add a very decent bloke, the one member), when you were conspicuous by your absence. Do you think the General Committee are stupid. The General Committe saw that the motion was entirely to Oakdale's benefit. No other Club in Group 6 is trying to get a team moved over from another club. Most Club's understand your predicament, but you guys really need to put some plans in motion so that you don't continually have this problem season after season. I also second B&W sentiments regarding the Picton U18 you have up there. Why would Picton agree to clear a player of that talent.
Very unfortunate that he was left there on his own, I'm on arvo shift and our president got called away at the last minute. If you're talking about young goughy, the only reason he is at Oakdale is because of his old man.
We have done nothing untoward and can't get any help, you put all of your free time into something for nothing and have it ripped away. Then meet every request that is made of you, and still get blocked. See how you feel. Clubs should be supporting us, we are promoting rugby league, we have our own interest as well, but ultimately we are doing the right thing for the game.
How can you say you are doing what's best for Rugby League when you are trying to decimate another club's 18? All the clubs know what you're up to - it was blatantly obvious at the Group meeting - so I wouldn't expect any support or sympathy from them.


I'm not getting one-sided feed back I was at the meeting and saw your move in action. Your delegate stated that he was going on info given to him from the club's secretary - that's you isn't it?
Here's how I can say im doing what's best. My club is providing a place for these players to play where they want to. Why don't u come and speak to these kids and ask them where they want to play? Isn't that what rugby league is? Enjoying it and participation?
We are not trying to decimate anyone, seeing though you're so switched on what are we up to? What has been done untoward? Come on I urge you to throw it out there.
I want our club to have an under 18s this year. Considering Oakdale provides the oaks with lots of juniors I didn't think it was a far stretch to have them for 1 year, particularly because it has never been a problem between the 2 clubs in the past. Charlie Rogers said it himself.
Group 6 have the U/18's by-law which was supported by the majority of clubs. How do you plan to circumvent that?
I don't plan on circumventing anything.
This is where u r getting wrong.
I was hoping that the 5 or 6 Oakdale locals would be allowed to register with us. We got a few players from outside the group, and 1 kid who has never played. That would get us off the ground. The norm in previous seasons has been if oakdale had the numbers, the oaks would release them.
Stop dodging the question what are we up to? What's the big conspiracy?
At the Group meeting your club put forward a motion to force The Oaks to pull their 18's so that you could sign them up. You can couch it in any fancy terms you like to make it more general but no one there was fooled that this was anything more than your club trying to take 18's from another club.

I'm not dodging any issues. You don't have the juniors to support an U/18's and a couple of the boys in question will be able to play for you next year. The Oaks have said that they hope to field an 18's they should be given the opportunity to do so.
Congratulations on not being fooled! Considering there is nothing u should be fooled by.
The man that put forth the motion infact proposed it. You didn't listen to it properly. The idea was to put a deadline on their nomination and whether they had the players. Even with the players that are being up held they are unlikely to field a team. Without them we are no chance either, but we will definitely have enough with them.
Put the conspiracy theories away cos we are not putting any spin on it.
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You gotta feel for the U/18's training squad. They've been trying for 2 weeks to play a trial game against Illawarra so that the Redbacks team can be selected.

This year we might have a few more Group 6 kids in the team - usually it's Illawarra heavy (and not because they have more talent - they just have more selectors)
It's a shame the guys didnt get to play against Illawarra for their spots giving them all another opportunity to show what they can do. I believe the team will be selected from what they have seen so far and their first redbacks game will be next Sunday. Regardless of wheather any of the five from the Bull's that made the group 6 side make it or not I am proud of what they have accomplished so far since moving over. :clap:
Good to see the 18's Illawarra/Group 6 game going ahead tomorrow. Can't wait to watch some good footy :clap:
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Group 6 constitution says no more than 5 players from outside the area to play in the same side, so if the group stick to their black and white policy, then the bulls won't field a side. If Oakdale can't get players released because of group 6 laws then why can the bulls? Also Camden got 3 Warragamba under 18s. It seems like there are rules for some and not others. You guys keep trying to explain yourself, but you are not genuine.
TC don't know anything about the five outside player rule???? Not sure that is accurate. As for the Warragamba 18's going to Camden, well as far as I know if it is agreable between the two clubs there isn't a problem. Another thing, you should be concentrating on the problems your own club are facing instead of looking at what other clubs are doing. You are not doing yourself or your club any favours by bagging the Group. Those were pretty strong words you used. Instead of getting on here winging, why didn't your club get together with the group earlier in the year and try and work out some long term strategies for the future. The way you are going on you are burning bridges mate. Your problems are not player movements to your club, it is about points, and I think you know that.
To appease u I removed the last part of the comment, but as for whinging I don't think u understand the gist of my argument.
I am not complaining about other clubs, read what I am saying. I hope Matt and the bulls have a great year, and the warragamba boys, im purely showing that the bylaw is not just a black and white issue. I'm purely and simply saying that the rules have been relaxed for some and not others. And the oaks agreed to release the players that I am referring to, it's the group holding it up.
As for points, I don't know what you are talking about!
And yeah I'm bitter about it, you put 12 months of planning into something and try and watch it get crushed. Don't try and talk to me about no long term strategy.
Interesting you keep bringing up the 'Warragamba boys'... Warragamba don't look like fielding any teams in the senior competition, they have been getting 3 & 4 players turn up for U18's and 2nd Division, they may end up having to pull the pin like Appin - very unfortunate, the point is, if Warragamba don't have a side then the players can go to any club that they wish! The by-law won't apply to them as their local team is not fielding a team in their age group! So you can drop that argument.

Secondly, B & W hit the nail on the head - how are you doing what's right for the game by lodging 10-12 clearances for players to come from The Oaks RLFC to Oakdale? Forcing The Oaks to fold their U18's? If that is what is right for the game then i think your dillusional!

You say that we have all your juniors, YES that is true, but The Oaks JRLFC was built as the club to support the juniors from both Oakdale and The Oaks, so why should we coach and nurture these players for 10 years throughout their junior career just to have them stolen by Oakdale to bolster their senior ranks?

Also, i know for a fact that some of the kids that have gone up to play U18's at Oakdale have been contacted personally and offered things such as free gear etc for their registration.

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