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Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
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boys at rusey were saying today collies have got the sacked east ctown coach hazo to get em in group six next year bring seniors back for the tykes taking 1st grade there in 2013
I heard collies looking at affiliating 2013 and hazo could be a good fit in the 1st year back in group 6
Wonder if any easts players would follow coach hazo over to collies
Alittle early to be talking about next year??
It is far too early to worry about who will be playing in Group 6 next year BUT I don't think we need any more clubs joining our comp.

What do others think?
I agree group needs to help the clubs that are allready there...more clubs mean less players for existing clubs 2012 good example of that...if west players want to come to group 6 they should join existing clubs..
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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
As a player for the eagles I know our payments are much less than other clubs out there I wish we got the figures talked about at other clubs out....
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tc6_11
May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
As a player for the eagles I know our payments are much less than other clubs out there I wish we got the figures talked about at other clubs out....
I never said you pay more, i said you have the capacity to. Then throw in the fact that a player doesn't have to travel the extra 15 minutes to get to training each night (If they are going to Camden or Narellan) and i bet that sways a lot of people.
No offence footylover, but as a player and a board member, you might think that other players tell you what they are getting, but it is never what they are actually on.
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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
I agree with you TC on a number of points but we still have our backs to the wall, Group 6 clubs have had the foresight to build great grounds which gives them stable clubs, Roos, Eagles and Bulls don't have fenced in grounds, club houses or a simple liquor licence, a positive talk with Campbelltown Council hopefully sees us building our foundations, our clubs hard work for many years does sees us scruitinized alot more than other clubs. look we are just happy and grateful we are playing in Group 6, all we want is a competitive team in all grades and anything more is a bonus!
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May 19 2012, 12:06 AM
tc6_11
May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
As a player for the eagles I know our payments are much less than other clubs out there I wish we got the figures talked about at other clubs out....
I never said you pay more, i said you have the capacity to. Then throw in the fact that a player doesn't have to travel the extra 15 minutes to get to training each night (If they are going to Camden or Narellan) and i bet that sways a lot of people.
No offence footylover, but as a player and a board member, you might think that other players tell you what they are getting, but it is never what they are actually on.
Yes don't we all know that!
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May 19 2012, 12:31 AM
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May 19 2012, 12:06 AM
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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
As a player for the eagles I know our payments are much less than other clubs out there I wish we got the figures talked about at other clubs out....
I never said you pay more, i said you have the capacity to. Then throw in the fact that a player doesn't have to travel the extra 15 minutes to get to training each night (If they are going to Camden or Narellan) and i bet that sways a lot of people.
No offence footylover, but as a player and a board member, you might think that other players tell you what they are getting, but it is never what they are actually on.
Yes don't we all know that!
I'm not a board member just a player anare we are all mates and the better players deserve mire money like any clubd i know what pretty much all the players atre on and the better players are on more like club ...and I do agree with you neverthat we are in a better position by being in ctown but in saying that we have only been back there for 3 weeks out of the last 2 years ... but yes it Will give ys an advantage in the future I believe ....
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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
Now that i am no longer with a club in the region i can honestly say that the Highlands can not sustain 2 sides in first grade long term when you have now 5 clubs in the area.

The talent is just spread to thin and every year young people move out and old farts move in.

The region needs to be really looked at IMO
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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
Now that i am no longer with a club in the region i can honestly say that the Highlands can not sustain 2 sides in first grade long term when you have now 5 clubs in the area.

The talent is just spread to thin and every year young people move out and old farts move in.

The region needs to be really looked at IMO
My point exactly about the 3rd grade debacle.
Should some form of the pioneers be looked at again? Allow the 3 or 4 3rd grade sides feed the 1 first grade?
Moss Vale had it right before 2011, but it's easy to drop the ball so i've found out after winning a comp. Not to say that their committee has, more so keeping players interested.
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tc6_11
May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
I agree with you TC on a number of points but we still have our backs to the wall, Group 6 clubs have had the foresight to build great grounds which gives them stable clubs, Roos, Eagles and Bulls don't have fenced in grounds, club houses or a simple liquor licence, a positive talk with Campbelltown Council hopefully sees us building our foundations, our clubs hard work for many years does sees us scruitinized alot more than other clubs. look we are just happy and grateful we are playing in Group 6, all we want is a competitive team in all grades and anything more is a bonus!
not all group 6 clubs have fenced grounds and a few still need to put up fences...not all group 6 clubs sell alcohol as they dont have the desire or the liscense to sell alcohol ..whether your a original group 6 club or an ex west club some are better off then others with facilities fences ect...
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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
Now that i am no longer with a club in the region i can honestly say that the Highlands can not sustain 2 sides in first grade long term when you have now 5 clubs in the area.

The talent is just spread to thin and every year young people move out and old farts move in.

The region needs to be really looked at IMO
My point exactly about the 3rd grade debacle.
Should some form of the pioneers be looked at again? Allow the 3 or 4 3rd grade sides feed the 1 first grade?
Moss Vale had it right before 2011, but it's easy to drop the ball so i've found out after winning a comp. Not to say that their committee has, more so keeping players interested.
I agree TC
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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
Now that i am no longer with a club in the region i can honestly say that the Highlands can not sustain 2 sides in first grade long term when you have now 5 clubs in the area.

The talent is just spread to thin and every year young people move out and old farts move in.

The region needs to be really looked at IMO
My point exactly about the 3rd grade debacle.
Should some form of the pioneers be looked at again? Allow the 3 or 4 3rd grade sides feed the 1 first grade?
Moss Vale had it right before 2011, but it's easy to drop the ball so i've found out after winning a comp. Not to say that their committee has, more so keeping players interested.
Your right TC its easier to climb to the top but its alot harder staying there . The last group 6 team to go back to back was camden in 97/98, shows how tough it is.

Like the same challenges & ideals that stop the oaks & oakdale forming a super club is the same that would prevent something like this happening in the highlands again. The "pioneers" ( bowral & robo)never really got of the ground or reached its potential as it was never fully embraced by the highlands community ,and when moss vale entered into the fray with the pioneers in 2000 it all but signalled the end as many thought there original clubs would be lost forever with the pioneers being a blend of 3 clubs plus went against the original agreement of just it being bowral & robertson. In 2001 the pioneers dissolved and the 3 clubs returned back to their home base.

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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
Now that i am no longer with a club in the region i can honestly say that the Highlands can not sustain 2 sides in first grade long term when you have now 5 clubs in the area.

The talent is just spread to thin and every year young people move out and old farts move in.

The region needs to be really looked at IMO
My point exactly about the 3rd grade debacle.
Should some form of the pioneers be looked at again? Allow the 3 or 4 3rd grade sides feed the 1 first grade?
Moss Vale had it right before 2011, but it's easy to drop the ball so i've found out after winning a comp. Not to say that their committee has, more so keeping players interested.
Your right TC its easier to climb to the top but its alot harder staying there . The last group 6 team to go back to back was camden in 97/98, shows how tough it is.

Like the same challenges & ideals that stop the oaks & oakdale forming a super club is the same that would prevent something like this happening in the highlands again. The "pioneers" ( bowral & robo)never really got of the ground or reached its potential as it was never fully embraced by the highlands community ,and when moss vale entered into the fray with the pioneers in 2000 it all but signalled the end as many thought there original clubs would be lost forever with the pioneers being a blend of 3 clubs plus went against the original agreement of just it being bowral & robertson. In 2001 the pioneers dissolved and the 3 clubs returned back to their home base.

At the end of the day with a major city in Campbelltown(Clubs) coming in and the Northern End becoming more a city than a traditioinal country region the Highland clubs will battle even more.

That was why Robbo went to group 7 before 3rd grade came in. group 7 dont even have 3rds anymore hence Jamberoo coming up here.

Hopfully the mines in Sutton forest will bring plenty of talent and young families to the area!!

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Hopfully the mines in Sutton forest will bring plenty of talent and young families to the area!!

Its already brought sponsorship via cockatoo coal to both moss vales jnr & snr leagues.
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May 18 2012, 11:58 PM
Campbelltown doesn't need another side.
We've still got nothing in the corridor between Campbelltown and Narellan, possibly one of the biggest areas in the Camden LGA. Then you have emerging areas.
Why Campbelltown? City are running last (although i think they are better than that and won't finish last), and have not seen the post season since the inception of the combined comp.
If you're worried about the Eagles dominating, I think the points system has to be looked at first for the Campbelltown areas. Demographics has to come back into it. Ctown has way too broad an area to pick from, and when you look at the roster of the Eagles, they still have plenty of room under the cap (If the local juniors are real local juniors (I hope you're telling the truth Daniel lol)). Campbelltown has a much larger Business district, which allows for increased sponsorship revenue, which allows them to purchase the quality players. They are closer to the city, which makes it easier for them to attract the quality players, because they don't have to travel as far.
I think the Group will have learned the error in their ways this year with the 3rd Grade debacle. We need to get Moss Vale back into First Grade before anything. It's not healthy for the comp to only have 1 southern highlands team. Mittagong will also be crying out for them to return, because as everyone knows, you double your revenue on a local derby.
To be honest, i don't think the Group would want Collies in. After all, Collies were the straw that broke the camels back with the combined comp.
Back to the Eagles dominating, yes they were the best side all year last year, and yes they had a good 2010, they also went well in 2009, but i will remind you of this, Comps aren't won in March, April, and May. To all the other clubs, fight harder to make your club better.
Now that i am no longer with a club in the region i can honestly say that the Highlands can not sustain 2 sides in first grade long term when you have now 5 clubs in the area.

The talent is just spread to thin and every year young people move out and old farts move in.

The region needs to be really looked at IMO
My point exactly about the 3rd grade debacle.
Should some form of the pioneers be looked at again? Allow the 3 or 4 3rd grade sides feed the 1 first grade?
Moss Vale had it right before 2011, but it's easy to drop the ball so i've found out after winning a comp. Not to say that their committee has, more so keeping players interested.
Your right TC its easier to climb to the top but its alot harder staying there . The last group 6 team to go back to back was camden in 97/98, shows how tough it is.

Like the same challenges & ideals that stop the oaks & oakdale forming a super club is the same that would prevent something like this happening in the highlands again. The "pioneers" ( bowral & robo)never really got of the ground or reached its potential as it was never fully embraced by the highlands community ,and when moss vale entered into the fray with the pioneers in 2000 it all but signalled the end as many thought there original clubs would be lost forever with the pioneers being a blend of 3 clubs plus went against the original agreement of just it being bowral & robertson. In 2001 the pioneers dissolved and the 3 clubs returned back to their home base.

At the end of the day with a major city in Campbelltown(Clubs) coming in and the Northern End becoming more a city than a traditioinal country region the Highland clubs will battle even more.

That was why Robbo went to group 7 before 3rd grade came in. group 7 dont even have 3rds anymore hence Jamberoo coming up here.

Hopfully the mines in Sutton forest will bring plenty of talent and young families to the area!!

Southern end clubs may need to work together a little more in promoting the game in the area. They all need to keep their own identity but use each other to promote footy in the area. Things such as double headers, Highlands footy days where all teams in the area could play each other at the one ground (providing MV are back in 1sts next year) and in general exposure through local media need to be explored in order to give the game some profile in the area.

There is definately a different demographic in the area but that cant be used as an excuse it just means clubs need to work a bit harder to attract players and keep juniors at their own clubs. One of Moss Vales biggest problem of the last 5 years is the lack of kids making the transition from juniors to seniors. Fortunatley we have fielded 18s last year and this year which hopefully in time these players will make up the nucleus of a first grade side much like the likes of Noble, Esquilant, Barton etc did five or six years ago. If this happens and the numbers coming through from the junior ranks stays strong there is no reason Moss Vale cant sustain a first grade side and we would have 2 first grade sides and 3 second division sides in the area.
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It was bought to my attention today, the match up against Thirlmere and Narellan, going to be a big game with a lot of feeling, rip and tear boys!
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It was bought to my attention today, the match up against Thirlmere and Narellan, going to be a big game with a lot of feeling, rip and tear boys!
Yes, a lot of feeling!! Roosters are favourites to win and the players and coach who left the Jets in late January would not be expecting the Jets to have done well so far. Its fair to say that 'super coach' was poached taking with him a number of Jets best players, one who was a Jets junior from way back and is/was good mates with Jets players. Woodo has the pressure on him to perform with all that talent and money at his disposal and coming off an unexpected loss last week. The U18s coach who stepped in the replace Woodo was not one Woodo had much respect for, so even the coaches are out to prove a point. I heard on the grapevine that Thirlmere asked Group Management for Narellan to consider putting Jets ex players that went to Thirlmere on a lower points level so that Thirlmere could get them under the threshold - what a hide!!

Just hope it doesn't turn into a biff fest. Does the 'Stitch Em Up' brigade still exist or have they grown up??
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It was bought to my attention today, the match up against Thirlmere and Narellan, going to be a big game with a lot of feeling, rip and tear boys!
Yes, a lot of feeling!! Roosters are favourites to win and the players and coach who left the Jets in late January would not be expecting the Jets to have done well so far. Its fair to say that 'super coach' was poached taking with him a number of Jets best players, one who was a Jets junior from way back and is/was good mates with Jets players. Woodo has the pressure on him to perform with all that talent and money at his disposal and coming off an unexpected loss last week. The U18s coach who stepped in the replace Woodo was not one Woodo had much respect for, so even the coaches are out to prove a point. I heard on the grapevine that Thirlmere asked Group Management for Narellan to consider putting Jets ex players that went to Thirlmere on a lower points level so that Thirlmere could get them under the threshold - what a hide!!

Just hope it doesn't turn into a biff fest. Does the 'Stitch Em Up' brigade still exist or have they grown up??
Narellan have done very well, especially, as at the beginning of the year with the defections, it was thought they may have had to pull their teams. Well done to their committee and the players that stuck by them.

Let's hope that we have a good hard game at Thirlmere tomorrow without the grubbiness.
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Does anyone know if there was any first grade games today, just got back from Canberra way to cold in the morning to work there again or play footy.
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May 19 2012, 07:12 PM
It was bought to my attention today, the match up against Thirlmere and Narellan, going to be a big game with a lot of feeling, rip and tear boys!
Yes, a lot of feeling!! Roosters are favourites to win and the players and coach who left the Jets in late January would not be expecting the Jets to have done well so far. Its fair to say that 'super coach' was poached taking with him a number of Jets best players, one who was a Jets junior from way back and is/was good mates with Jets players. Woodo has the pressure on him to perform with all that talent and money at his disposal and coming off an unexpected loss last week. The U18s coach who stepped in the replace Woodo was not one Woodo had much respect for, so even the coaches are out to prove a point. I heard on the grapevine that Thirlmere asked Group Management for Narellan to consider putting Jets ex players that went to Thirlmere on a lower points level so that Thirlmere could get them under the threshold - what a hide!!

Just hope it doesn't turn into a biff fest. Does the 'Stitch Em Up' brigade still exist or have they grown up??
The match between Camden and Easts should be big Devil ....
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