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When did the junior league severe ties with the district football club?
Topic Started: Jan 10 2012, 06:32 PM (2,945 Views)
Old Magpie Lad
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I asked this question to certain members from the junior league on this forum but have received no reply so I'm throwing it open to anyone - when did the Western Suburbs Dist Junior Rugby League (WSDJRL) severe its ties with the Western Suburbs Dist Rugby League Football Club (WSDRLFC) and more importantly WHY?

Was there a single reason or were there many? I'm intrigue as to why its happened and would like to get to the bottom of it.

Does funding from Wests Leagues Campbelltown to the junior league have something to do with the split and why have the juniors become an extension of Wests Tigers when WT are not a district football club?

I do not know of this happening anywhere in rugby league in NSW.
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Old Magpie Lad
Jan 10 2012, 06:32 PM
I asked this question to certain members from the junior league on this forum but have received no reply so I'm throwing it open to anyone - when did the Western Suburbs Dist Junior Rugby League (WSDJRL) severe its ties with the Western Suburbs Dist Rugby League Football Club (WSDRLFC) and more importantly WHY?

Was there a single reason or were there many? I'm intrigue as to why its happened and would like to get to the bottom of it.

Does funding from Wests Leagues Campbelltown to the junior league have something to do with the split and why have the juniors become an extension of Wests Tigers when WT are not a district football club?

I do not know of this happening anywhere in rugby league in NSW.
Dad said it was 2001, and was the only junior League to do this, they made the Junior League a company, and haven't been affiliated since 2001 to NSWRL or Wests Magpies or Wests Tigers, apparently BD is one guy that has bought this up at many Junior League Meetings, Dad said that's why the JL does what ever they please, not even NSWRL can tell them what to do.
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From what I can gather, relationships broke down a few years back when there was an infllammatory and offesnive comment made towards an official within the Western Suburbs Junior League on the once 'official' forum of Western Suburbs Magpies almost resulting in legal action against the WSDRLFC. Subsequently, the official forum was shut down and this 'unoffical' forum was established where Western Suburbs fans can still share thoughts, opinions and dialogue without having to worry about legal rammifcations.

Apart from that previous Boards and former Chairmen of the WSDRLFC burned a few bridges & relationships through difference of opinion, view, perspective and what not on an array of issues. It is extremely unfortunate and disappointing to say the least. I would like to hope that one day in the near future, the olive branch can be extended with mediation taking place to heal old wounds through 'new blood' that is currently trying to look forward to the future
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Old Magpie Lad
Jan 10 2012, 06:32 PM
I asked this question to certain members from the junior league on this forum but have received no reply so I'm throwing it open to anyone - when did the Western Suburbs Dist Junior Rugby League (WSDJRL) severe its ties with the Western Suburbs Dist Rugby League Football Club (WSDRLFC) and more importantly WHY?

Was there a single reason or were there many? I'm intrigue as to why its happened and would like to get to the bottom of it.

Does funding from Wests Leagues Campbelltown to the junior league have something to do with the split and why have the juniors become an extension of Wests Tigers when WT are not a district football club?

I do not know of this happening anywhere in rugby league in NSW.
Dad said it was 2001, and was the only junior League to do this, they made the Junior League a company, and haven't been affiliated since 2001 to NSWRL or Wests Magpies or Wests Tigers, apparently BD is one guy that has bought this up at many Junior League Meetings, Dad said that's why the JL does what ever they please, not even NSWRL can tell them what to do.
Thanks Fence Sitter but there must have been a reason for them to do so. Any ideas why they became an entity?

Further checking shows that - According to Australian Business Number, their ABN is 15 003 889 085. According to ASIC records, their ACN is 003 889 085 and were registered on 27/10/89. Their full name is WESTERN SUBURBS DISTRICT JUNIOR RUGBY LEAGUE LIMITED - the word limited meaning they are an Australian Public Company. Now I'm no legal expect but being a limited as opposed to Pty Ltd company means they would need to have board elections - is that correct? They would need shareholders - is that correct? They would need to have shareholders meetings - is that correct?

According to ASIC records, the organisation had a change to company details, change of registered address, change of principal place of business and appointment/cessation of a company officeholder all on the 09/03/11.

Does anyone know the board positions of the WSDJRL Limited ?

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Jan 10 2012, 10:02 PM
From what I can gather, relationships broke down a few years back when there was an infllammatory and offesnive comment made towards an official within the Western Suburbs Junior League on the once 'official' forum of Western Suburbs Magpies almost resulting in legal action against the WSDRLFC. Subsequently, the official forum was shut down and this 'unoffical' forum was established where Western Suburbs fans can still share thoughts, opinions and dialogue without having to worry about legal rammifcations.

Apart from that previous Boards and former Chairmen of the WSDRLFC burned a few bridges & relationships through difference of opinion, view, perspective and what not on an array of issues. It is extremely unfortunate and disappointing to say the least. I would like to hope that one day in the near future, the olive branch can be extended with mediation taking place to heal old wounds through 'new blood' that is currently trying to look forward to the future
Thanks Gobbs. Seems personal vendettas MAY be an issue then.

Are the directors of the Magpies football club offering an olive branch to the junior league - is it too late or can something be done today?
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you blokes just love digging into the WSDJRL who have done this area proud for many years show some respect and stop medelling in afairs that are no concern to you all you are just all stirring the pot and this atatck on the WSDJRL is not founded nor warrented
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Jan 11 2012, 07:55 AM
you blokes just love digging into the WSDJRL who have done this area proud for many years show some respect and stop medelling in afairs that are no concern to you all you are just all stirring the pot and this atatck on the WSDJRL is not founded nor warrented
I find your comments about respect totally hypocritical and highly bombastic in the extreme.

The questions are of concern as the junior league severed its ties with their own district football club - the WSDRLFC - no reason has been given as to why. This doesn't happen for no reason and it hasn't happened anywhere else to my knowledge.

Can you, Beefa shed some light? Why is this such a difficult question to answer? What is the motive to remain immune from scrutiny?



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Jan 10 2012, 06:32 PM
I asked this question to certain members from the junior league on this forum but have received no reply so I'm throwing it open to anyone - when did the Western Suburbs Dist Junior Rugby League (WSDJRL) severe its ties with the Western Suburbs Dist Rugby League Football Club (WSDRLFC) and more importantly WHY?

Was there a single reason or were there many? I'm intrigue as to why its happened and would like to get to the bottom of it.

Does funding from Wests Leagues Campbelltown to the junior league have something to do with the split and why have the juniors become an extension of Wests Tigers when WT are not a district football club?

I do not know of this happening anywhere in rugby league in NSW.
Dad said it was 2001, and was the only junior League to do this, they made the Junior League a company, and haven't been affiliated since 2001 to NSWRL or Wests Magpies or Wests Tigers, apparently BD is one guy that has bought this up at many Junior League Meetings, Dad said that's why the JL does what ever they please, not even NSWRL can tell them what to do.
Thanks Fence Sitter but there must have been a reason for them to do so. Any ideas why they became an entity?

Further checking shows that - According to Australian Business Number, their ABN is 15 003 889 085. According to ASIC records, their ACN is 003 889 085 and were registered on 27/10/89. Their full name is WESTERN SUBURBS DISTRICT JUNIOR RUGBY LEAGUE LIMITED - the word limited meaning they are an Australian Public Company. Now I'm no legal expect but being a limited as opposed to Pty Ltd company means they would need to have board elections - is that correct? They would need shareholders - is that correct? They would need to have shareholders meetings - is that correct?

According to ASIC records, the organisation had a change to company details, change of registered address, change of principal place of business and appointment/cessation of a company officeholder all on the 09/03/11.

Does anyone know the board positions of the WSDJRL Limited ?

Julie Luke is wests jrl full time CEO, Wayne hardy smith is wests jrl chairman
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Jan 11 2012, 02:12 PM
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Jan 10 2012, 10:00 PM
Old Magpie Lad
Jan 10 2012, 06:32 PM
I asked this question to certain members from the junior league on this forum but have received no reply so I'm throwing it open to anyone - when did the Western Suburbs Dist Junior Rugby League (WSDJRL) severe its ties with the Western Suburbs Dist Rugby League Football Club (WSDRLFC) and more importantly WHY?

Was there a single reason or were there many? I'm intrigue as to why its happened and would like to get to the bottom of it.

Does funding from Wests Leagues Campbelltown to the junior league have something to do with the split and why have the juniors become an extension of Wests Tigers when WT are not a district football club?

I do not know of this happening anywhere in rugby league in NSW.
Dad said it was 2001, and was the only junior League to do this, they made the Junior League a company, and haven't been affiliated since 2001 to NSWRL or Wests Magpies or Wests Tigers, apparently BD is one guy that has bought this up at many Junior League Meetings, Dad said that's why the JL does what ever they please, not even NSWRL can tell them what to do.
Thanks Fence Sitter but there must have been a reason for them to do so. Any ideas why they became an entity?

Further checking shows that - According to Australian Business Number, their ABN is 15 003 889 085. According to ASIC records, their ACN is 003 889 085 and were registered on 27/10/89. Their full name is WESTERN SUBURBS DISTRICT JUNIOR RUGBY LEAGUE LIMITED - the word limited meaning they are an Australian Public Company. Now I'm no legal expect but being a limited as opposed to Pty Ltd company means they would need to have board elections - is that correct? They would need shareholders - is that correct? They would need to have shareholders meetings - is that correct?

According to ASIC records, the organisation had a change to company details, change of registered address, change of principal place of business and appointment/cessation of a company officeholder all on the 09/03/11.

Does anyone know the board positions of the WSDJRL Limited ?

Julie Luke is wests jrl full time CEO, Wayne hardy smith is wests jrl chairman
That's it?

Surely not. A CEO would need to be ratified by a board. Are Wests Campbelltown the board?
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Fenceys dad would know the full set up,he knows everything.
Edited by disco stu, Jan 12 2012, 12:09 AM.
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Why does my copy of the Western Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club (The Magpies) constitution have clauses in it regarding the running and control of the Wests Junior League???

The way it reads, and I am certain it must have been ratified by the NSWRL, is that the Wests Junior League is answerable to the district club.
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Fenceys dad would know the full set up,he knows everything.
Ohhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
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Jan 12 2012, 01:49 AM
Why does my copy of the Western Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club (The Magpies) constitution have clauses in it regarding the running and control of the Wests Junior League???

The way it reads, and I am certain it must have been ratified by the NSWRL, is that the Wests Junior League is answerable to the district club.
I was heavy involved in a local junior club when all this erupted years ago. It was just after the Tigers merger- takeover and I think Wests still had hopes of one day getting back into NRL sooner rather than later. The District Club, led by pigshead tried to pull the junior league into line and make them answerable- accountable to them, including the board.
The Wests Junior League were none to happy with the proposal and soon after cut all ties from everyone. Basically they have no higher body and can never be taken over.
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Jan 12 2012, 01:49 AM
Why does my copy of the Western Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club (The Magpies) constitution have clauses in it regarding the running and control of the Wests Junior League???

The way it reads, and I am certain it must have been ratified by the NSWRL, is that the Wests Junior League is answerable to the district club.
I was heavy involved in a local junior club when all this erupted years ago. It was just after the Tigers merger- takeover and I think Wests still had hopes of one day getting back into NRL sooner rather than later. The District Club, led by pigshead tried to pull the junior league into line and make them answerable- accountable to them, including the board.
The Wests Junior League were none to happy with the proposal and soon after cut all ties from everyone. Basically they have no higher body and can never be taken over.
Club President - Is the person you refer to as pigshead the same person that posts on this forum?
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Why does my copy of the Western Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club (The Magpies) constitution have clauses in it regarding the running and control of the Wests Junior League???

The way it reads, and I am certain it must have been ratified by the NSWRL, is that the Wests Junior League is answerable to the district club.
I was heavy involved in a local junior club when all this erupted years ago. It was just after the Tigers merger- takeover and I think Wests still had hopes of one day getting back into NRL sooner rather than later. The District Club, led by pigshead tried to pull the junior league into line and make them answerable- accountable to them, including the board.
The Wests Junior League were none to happy with the proposal and soon after cut all ties from everyone. Basically they have no higher body and can never be taken over.
Club President - Is the person you refer to as pigshead the same person that posts on this forum?
There views seem to be similar :unsure: who knows?
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is that true they cant be voted out or takin over?
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Couldnt then another Committee affiliated with the NSWRL form and take control of the competition?? If there not affiliated what gives them any control??

Just asking??
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Jan 10 2012, 06:32 PM
I asked this question to certain members from the junior league on this forum but have received no reply so I'm throwing it open to anyone - when did the Western Suburbs Dist Junior Rugby League (WSDJRL) severe its ties with the Western Suburbs Dist Rugby League Football Club (WSDRLFC) and more importantly WHY?

Was there a single reason or were there many? I'm intrigue as to why its happened and would like to get to the bottom of it.

Does funding from Wests Leagues Campbelltown to the junior league have something to do with the split and why have the juniors become an extension of Wests Tigers when WT are not a district football club?

I do not know of this happening anywhere in rugby league in NSW.
a good question to ask long live wests comon westsssssssssssssss
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Why does my copy of the Western Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club (The Magpies) constitution have clauses in it regarding the running and control of the Wests Junior League???

The way it reads, and I am certain it must have been ratified by the NSWRL, is that the Wests Junior League is answerable to the district club.
I was heavy involved in a local junior club when all this erupted years ago. It was just after the Tigers merger- takeover and I think Wests still had hopes of one day getting back into NRL sooner rather than later. The District Club, led by pigshead tried to pull the junior league into line and make them answerable- accountable to them, including the board.
The Wests Junior League were none to happy with the proposal and soon after cut all ties from everyone. Basically they have no higher body and can never be taken over.
So how has it been allowed in the Wests Magpies constitution which is ratified by the NSWRL if they have no power over them?
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Yes it seems by all reports wests jrl relationship with nswrl is a bit of an enigma, yet no one on here can explain their association with each other, we just want answers but all we get is " leave them(wests jrl) alone " . It's a simple question that requires a simple answer yes or no ?
Edited by disco stu, Jan 15 2012, 11:57 AM.
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