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Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
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Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
Bargo have gone over the heads of the Junior's General Committee and have appealed directly to the CRL. Despite a strong vote against them when they applied to affiliate, they are using their senior "connections" to try and have that decision overturned.

It will be like the gate crashing party guest.
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Write what you want about Ben, at the end of the day he doesn't let it get to him. He's above that and more professional in his approach than half you people.
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Write what you want about Ben, at the end of the day he doesn't let it get to him. He's above that and more professional in his approach than half you people.
very well said moody you are on the mark there, everyone is on here bagging baker out but they need to wake up to themself, there is no need for it...he is happy with his decision and good on him, and hes not chasin a premiership because if he was why not just stay at jets because with all there money they have spent on ex nrl players and new players surely there favourites??? enough said.

go rams :winner:

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Ben has a lot of mates already paying with us at the eagles as we play in the same team in the aboriginal knockout together for a few years now and he lives around the area ... He will be a great addition to our team and his looking forward to proving him self at another club and we are all glad to have him with us and his a perfect fit for our team ...
very very very well said footylover.
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I'm new to this forum chat room, but due to the number of people saying what sort or blah blah is put on here I though it was about time I get on and have a look, and people are saying that there is no one on here to represent thirlmere well you can throw that out the window because I'm here...
Everyone can sit there and say what they want about us losing trotters but at the end of the day we have young talent coming through the ranks and I'm sure that we will be there in that top 5 this year so for everyone writing us off have a good look.

Bring on 2013 group 6. It's nearly time
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Jan 19 2013, 03:03 PM
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Jan 17 2013, 06:12 PM
Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
Bargo have gone over the heads of the Junior's General Committee and have appealed directly to the CRL. Despite a strong vote against them when they applied to affiliate, they are using their senior "connections" to try and have that decision overturned.

It will be like the gate crashing party guest.
Bargo has no home ground, the CRL can't entertain this surely?
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Jan 17 2013, 06:12 PM
Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
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Jan 19 2013, 03:43 PM
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Jan 19 2013, 03:03 PM
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Jan 17 2013, 06:12 PM
Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
Bargo have gone over the heads of the Junior's General Committee and have appealed directly to the CRL. Despite a strong vote against them when they applied to affiliate, they are using their senior "connections" to try and have that decision overturned.

It will be like the gate crashing party guest.
Bargo has no home ground, the CRL can't entertain this surely?
Agree if there was no ground then how do you form a base?? Bargo Sportsground has always been AFL!! Even the soccer club home ground is in Yerrinbool 15mins drive away!! There is a sports ground at Buxton but could only be for minis and is also a far drive away form Bargo itself .

The only spare ground i can think of is Wollondilly anglican school??

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Earlier this month a player of our club Andrew Kerrigan had a very unfortunate fall from a balcony in Cronulla, where his face landed between a metal spiked fence. He was in an induced coma and broke his jaw, and required plastic surgery on his face. He is relatively ok now, but to support him a member of our First Grade, Graeme Martin is going to run from the Camden end of Burragorang Road to Sid Sharpe Oval at Oakdale before our first training session on Thursday the 31st of January. It's an effort of over 20kms and a climb nearing 300 metres.
The playing group has already pledged in excess of over $2000 and we are looking for sponsors to support this great cause.
Any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
Anyone that knows Kerro, particularly those at the picton club where he was a junior will know that he is a great bloke and a very kind fella.
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Jan 19 2013, 03:03 PM
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Jan 17 2013, 06:12 PM
Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
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Jan 19 2013, 03:03 PM
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Jan 17 2013, 06:12 PM
Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
Interesting.
I personally have very little time for the 3rd grade comp. I think it was a major reason for the decline in the competition overall. It has been a drain on the resources of all first grade clubs.
I think they need to sort out a way to align 3rd grade clubs with 1st grade clubs.
I know Bargo, Bowral, etc are going to be upset at this, but the only time that this competiton is warranted is when a First Grade club is i decline and need to find their feet for a year or so, like Mossy. Maybe allow them to go back to some clubs being able to field standalone reserve grade teams.

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Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
Interesting.
I personally have very little time for the 3rd grade comp. I think it was a major reason for the decline in the competition overall. It has been a drain on the resources of all first grade clubs.
I think they need to sort out a way to align 3rd grade clubs with 1st grade clubs.
I know Bargo, Bowral, etc are going to be upset at this, but the only time that this competiton is warranted is when a First Grade club is i decline and need to find their feet for a year or so, like Mossy. Maybe allow them to go back to some clubs being able to field standalone reserve grade teams.

I actually agree with 3rd Grade clubs aligned with 1st Grade teams !!
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Jan 19 2013, 03:03 PM
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Jan 17 2013, 06:12 PM
Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
Interesting.
I personally have very little time for the 3rd grade comp. I think it was a major reason for the decline in the competition overall. It has been a drain on the resources of all first grade clubs.
I think they need to sort out a way to align 3rd grade clubs with 1st grade clubs.
I know Bargo, Bowral, etc are going to be upset at this, but the only time that this competiton is warranted is when a First Grade club is i decline and need to find their feet for a year or so, like Mossy. Maybe allow them to go back to some clubs being able to field standalone reserve grade teams.

I actually agree with 3rd Grade clubs aligned with 1st Grade teams !!
I'm sure I've said it on here before, but I really feel that the group needs to look at having 3 separate divisions rather than 1st & reserve grades and 2nd division. At the start of every year there can be a 3 or 4 week pre-season comp, for which the main purpose is to grade each team. Each club can submit to the group the teams that they wish to enter, wether it's all 3 divisions, 1st division only, 1st and 2nd, 1st and 3rd, 3rd only etc. From there the groups can evaluate them based on theiir roster and performances in the comp.

It wouldn't be as simple as that, but I think it's the way to go. It works for other sports eg soccer and cricket. And our current system where you play 1st and reserves unless you can only field one team, so you go straight to 3rds, is very very far from ideal. We need to move away from a system where near 1st grade strength teams play against pub grade teams, and where 3rd grade teams in areas with small popuations have a detrimental effect on existing clubs.
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Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
Some people may not like this but i don't think a bunch of volunteers from existing clubs have a right to say NO to Bargo fielding a junior club.... they have a school in the area and currently have some players running around at Picton, Mittagong and Thirlmere... who are the other clubs to tell Bargo that they can or can't have a crack at starting a junior club.... i think it's totally wrong... I hope the CRL have a look at it and make a wise decision off their own back rather than super powers like Thirlmere saying NO to Bargo because they might lose 5 of their 310+ players.... very unfair
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Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
Some people may not like this but i don't think a bunch of volunteers from existing clubs have a right to say NO to Bargo fielding a junior club.... they have a school in the area and currently have some players running around at Picton, Mittagong and Thirlmere... who are the other clubs to tell Bargo that they can or can't have a crack at starting a junior club.... i think it's totally wrong... I hope the CRL have a look at it and make a wise decision off their own back rather than super powers like Thirlmere saying NO to Bargo because they might lose 5 of their 310+ players.... very unfair
Well, why stop at Bargo? By that logic, we could have clubs at Wilton, Hilltop, Buxton, Douglas Park and Yanderra (they all have schools). Do you think that any group of people wishing to start a new club should be able to, regardless of the detrimental efffect it will have on existing clubs?

And no, they do not have players running around at Picton, Thirlmere and Mittagong. They have no players. They plan to take players from Picton, Thirlmere and Mittagong to form a club. That's a little different.

We are talking about a geographic area with a relatively small population when compared with Camden or the Southern Highlands. As has already been stated on here, there is no forseeable growth in the town of Bargo in the near future and no rugby league field. And the other problem of course, is the fact that a significant portion of the group of people trying to get this off the ground are motivated (at least in part) by spite for an existing club, not because they genuinely feel that Bargo needs its own club.
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Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
Some people may not like this but i don't think a bunch of volunteers from existing clubs have a right to say NO to Bargo fielding a junior club.... they have a school in the area and currently have some players running around at Picton, Mittagong and Thirlmere... who are the other clubs to tell Bargo that they can or can't have a crack at starting a junior club.... i think it's totally wrong... I hope the CRL have a look at it and make a wise decision off their own back rather than super powers like Thirlmere saying NO to Bargo because they might lose 5 of their 310+ players.... very unfair
I'm sorry but I don't agree at all. How would you feel if Oakdale decided to start up a junior club or Wallacia, Silverdale, Lakesland. Let's have a whole lot of unsustainable tiny clubs starting up just because some disgruntled ex committee members of bigger clubs have an axe to grind. Oakdale have a school and they have a ground, so no problems! Of course that will effect the Oaks but so what.....

Thirlmere is a big club, they have the facilities to support their size and a dedicated committee that has worked very hard over a number of years to develop their youngsters. So of course they need to be slapped down - how dare they be successful - how dare they benefit from their planning and hard work.

The general committee's job is to make decisions in the best interests of our players and competition and creating 30 "Bowrals" is not the way to go.

Tell me how good the situation is when mini teams are playing Bargo in the paddock behind the Bargo Sports Club, with no fence and no facilities - being told they have to go into the auditorium to use the toilets.

Or tell me how fantastic it is to appoint referees to 15 different grounds every Saturday because all these new, tiny little clubs are demanding their home and away games.
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Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
Some people may not like this but i don't think a bunch of volunteers from existing clubs have a right to say NO to Bargo fielding a junior club.... they have a school in the area and currently have some players running around at Picton, Mittagong and Thirlmere... who are the other clubs to tell Bargo that they can or can't have a crack at starting a junior club.... i think it's totally wrong... I hope the CRL have a look at it and make a wise decision off their own back rather than super powers like Thirlmere saying NO to Bargo because they might lose 5 of their 310+ players.... very unfair
I'm sorry but I don't agree at all. How would you feel if Oakdale decided to start up a junior club or Wallacia, Silverdale, Lakesland. Let's have a whole lot of unsustainable tiny clubs starting up just because some disgruntled ex committee members of bigger clubs have an axe to grind. Oakdale have a school and they have a ground, so no problems! Of course that will effect the Oaks but so what.....

Thirlmere is a big club, they have the facilities to support their size and a dedicated committee that has worked very hard over a number of years to develop their youngsters. So of course they need to be slapped down - how dare they be successful - how dare they benefit from their planning and hard work.

The general committee's job is to make decisions in the best interests of our players and competition and creating 30 "Bowrals" is not the way to go.

Tell me how good the situation is when mini teams are playing Bargo in the paddock behind the Bargo Sports Club, with no fence and no facilities - being told they have to go into the auditorium to use the toilets.

Or tell me how fantastic it is to appoint referees to 15 different grounds every Saturday because all these new, tiny little clubs are demanding their home and away games.
I agree with what you say also BW and i didn't know that there was an axe to grind with other clubs... starting a club for just that reason isn't right at all....

They may start up and collapse but who are we as members of other clubs (who were once voted in by the other clubs) to say NO your not doing it...

I think they should be given a chance and if they can field 1 team in 2013 (they have stated that they would like to get kids that don't already play football) that would be a success....

But again i do agree with some of the points you have raised... but i just think when voting, the clubs need to think about how they would feel if they were in Bargo's shoes and pushing to enter into the competition...

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Jan 20 2013, 08:38 AM
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Jan 17 2013, 06:12 PM
Any word on Bargos application for Jnrs?
The Bargo club's existence has definitely had an adverse effect on Picton seniors. Any junior club being formed there would absolutely be harmful to our juniors. I hope it never gets up, particularly because of the amount of spite directed at our club from certain people at the bunnies.
I won't offer an opinion on this because i know nothing about it,
but the bargo area is a lot further away from Picton than it is Thirlmere, and maybe even Mittagong.
Why is there spite involved?
Well, here's what I know:

A huge percentage of their club are former Picton people. A number of committee members, coach, many players, all used to be either actively involved at our club or were staunch supporters coming to every home game. When you include their partners and families, that's a he'll of a lot of support that we've lost. There are also a number of sponsors that followed their key members to their club and declined to support us anymore. They have actively persued Picton players also. Chris Bowers was told they'd organise private sponsorship to pay him to go and play 3rd grade there this year rather than play 1st grade for us.

Now, the majority of these former Picton people have no I'll feeling towards the magpies and in fact still show us some measure of support, but there are a couple (particularly one) extremely influential people in the bunnies that do their best to make it hard for us, especially by using their influence on group and other committees to put up road blocks.

Early last year when they were looking for a home ground a member from our club proposed that they play home games at Picton, before our reserve grade. We figured that, especially given the number of people from their club friendly to Picton, they'd at least be open to considering this mutually beneficial arrangement. Unfortunately when their member in charge of constructing road blocks got wind of it the reply from said member was a swift "the Bargo Bunnies will NOT be doing anything which will benefit Picton".

The worst thing is we can only speculate as to why this level of negativity comes from this small faction. There are no known altercations or ongoing feuds fuelling it. They left entirely of their own accord, on good terms, after many years of service. Perhaps the person or people in question simply don't like the thought of our club being successful after they've chosen to move on.
Some people may not like this but i don't think a bunch of volunteers from existing clubs have a right to say NO to Bargo fielding a junior club.... they have a school in the area and currently have some players running around at Picton, Mittagong and Thirlmere... who are the other clubs to tell Bargo that they can or can't have a crack at starting a junior club.... i think it's totally wrong... I hope the CRL have a look at it and make a wise decision off their own back rather than super powers like Thirlmere saying NO to Bargo because they might lose 5 of their 310+ players.... very unfair
I'm sorry but I don't agree at all. How would you feel if Oakdale decided to start up a junior club or Wallacia, Silverdale, Lakesland. Let's have a whole lot of unsustainable tiny clubs starting up just because some disgruntled ex committee members of bigger clubs have an axe to grind. Oakdale have a school and they have a ground, so no problems! Of course that will effect the Oaks but so what.....

Thirlmere is a big club, they have the facilities to support their size and a dedicated committee that has worked very hard over a number of years to develop their youngsters. So of course they need to be slapped down - how dare they be successful - how dare they benefit from their planning and hard work.

The general committee's job is to make decisions in the best interests of our players and competition and creating 30 "Bowrals" is not the way to go.

Tell me how good the situation is when mini teams are playing Bargo in the paddock behind the Bargo Sports Club, with no fence and no facilities - being told they have to go into the auditorium to use the toilets.

Or tell me how fantastic it is to appoint referees to 15 different grounds every Saturday because all these new, tiny little clubs are demanding their home and away games.
I agree with what you say also BW and i didn't know that there was an axe to grind with other clubs... starting a club for just that reason isn't right at all....

They may start up and collapse but who are we as members of other clubs (who were once voted in by the other clubs) to say NO your not doing it...

I think they should be given a chance and if they can field 1 team in 2013 (they have stated that they would like to get kids that don't already play football) that would be a success....

But again i do agree with some of the points you have raised... but i just think when voting, the clubs need to think about how they would feel if they were in Bargo's shoes and pushing to enter into the competition...

There is a lot more behind this than you realise. Bargo's "PR" and what is actually happening are two different things.
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